Is it worth it to move to Montreal?
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Cons: Damn long cold winter... Lower wage and traffic. Ho and fighting the urge not to see a girl every day!
Pros: Low cost of living. Wonderful city to live in (especially if you are asian or of color, Montreal much better then any other american city). And of course the girl... Being a local after some time here you do not call the girl.... They call you
Cheers,
Pros: Low cost of living. Wonderful city to live in (especially if you are asian or of color, Montreal much better then any other american city). And of course the girl... Being a local after some time here you do not call the girl.... They call you
Cheers,
I have a place in Quebec and work in Alberta, big plus for Alberta wages and Quebec cost of living ( I pay my taxes in Alberta since if I was to say Quebec it would cost me an extra $10,000 a year ).
Income tax is high in Quebec, fuel is high in Quebec.
What is cheap is education, daycare, smokes, beer, electricity and housing.
Montreal house prices are going up, a lot but most sales are for rental units, my son and I split on a condo awhile ago and are looking for a second one, so far the profit margin is there.
See an accountant in Quebec, check what your profession pays and find out your total tax bill, have a drink in hand. There is also 15% sales taxes on top of that ( sucks when you buy a big ticket item )
Escorts should not enter the decision making.
Income tax is high in Quebec, fuel is high in Quebec.
What is cheap is education, daycare, smokes, beer, electricity and housing.
Montreal house prices are going up, a lot but most sales are for rental units, my son and I split on a condo awhile ago and are looking for a second one, so far the profit margin is there.
See an accountant in Quebec, check what your profession pays and find out your total tax bill, have a drink in hand. There is also 15% sales taxes on top of that ( sucks when you buy a big ticket item )
Escorts should not enter the decision making.
How are you going to leave your job in NYC and take one in Montreal? That would be near impossible to do it the other way around so I am thinking it would be difficult to go from a job in NYC to a job in Montreal unless you are an expat or something. I don't know for sure but I know Canadians trying to get green cards has been difficult. You have to make a case that a particular skill is underrepresented in your country.
Why is Montreal much better than any American city if you are Asian or of color (whatever the hell that means)? Don't you have white people telling you that you should be offended at every turn for every perceived slight in Montreal too? I'll bet you don't have all the racist affirmative action programs that we have in the States where we give jobs and college entrance solely on ethnicity.
Why is Montreal much better than any American city if you are Asian or of color (whatever the hell that means)? Don't you have white people telling you that you should be offended at every turn for every perceived slight in Montreal too? I'll bet you don't have all the racist affirmative action programs that we have in the States where we give jobs and college entrance solely on ethnicity.
If you work here you are required to speak french
You wont get hired if you dont
If you have money which 70% of people dont have.
You can fast track imigration.
Like a bond which is placed. I know a few who did this
Think it was $2.5 million and you have to open a business
Employ people.
Plus side if you get sick medicare pays everything when you become
A citizen.
People dont get sued for no reason here.
There in no limit or inheratance tax here
But in usa uts 18 % climbs to 40% when inheratance is over 1 million.
We have the most beautiful woman in the world.
Rare you hear of gun related shootings
Our lotteries although smaller than powerball are tax free
You wont get hired if you dont
If you have money which 70% of people dont have.
You can fast track imigration.
Like a bond which is placed. I know a few who did this
Think it was $2.5 million and you have to open a business
Employ people.
Plus side if you get sick medicare pays everything when you become
A citizen.
People dont get sued for no reason here.
There in no limit or inheratance tax here
But in usa uts 18 % climbs to 40% when inheratance is over 1 million.
We have the most beautiful woman in the world.
Rare you hear of gun related shootings
Our lotteries although smaller than powerball are tax free
Not true. If you get hired in the private sector you do no have to speak french. Always polite thing to learn some basic french...
You can also fast track immigration if you work in IT or other specialties highly needed here.
Nvy, Montreal is a great place to visit and hobby!...but don't even think twice as an American to come here to live!
Its "Relatively simple" when / if you get a job offer and letter of employment from a company, and if you are degreed, experienced professional, all you
need is a work permit / visa under NAFTA** agreement which is good for one year (renewable) and it would cost about $50.00 US (As of couple of years ago).
Note that this is different then the H1B visas.
I did the opposite going from Montreal to the US and worked at some of the top aerospace companies by just this work permit / visa for about 10 years
without trying to obtain green card status...
As everything else, moving to Montreal, there are pros and cons, although, pros being the price and the availability of the girls (Especially with the agencies)
but you will be be paying 100% of the cost, but when you coming from the US you have a discount on almost everything, and while traveling outside Canada
everything will cost you more (Whatever the exchange rate is). Also as a non Canadian citizen, most probably you will have to pay for medical insurance
and that would cost some extra $$s. (As I was paying my own insurance while I was going to the US).
One thing I like to add that, these days is little difficult to go to the US (Things changed after 9/11, America first, Trump policies*).
*But one thing I would agree that Mr Trump wants to modify the system and make it easier for professionals unlike the present system that mostly
is based on family connections and sponsorship (Green card via employment is possible but it takes long long time).
** Is about to be replaced by the new USCMA (Or whatever is called) deal if it goes through.
"Express Entry. Express Entry is a system of immigration programs that help skilled workers move to Canada as permanent residents"
As for the Asian/Brown/Black comment it's really just a general personal comment. I have traveled a lot in the past 10 years. And generally speaking I would say that if I was asians/brown/black I would choose Montreal as my number city to immigrate in america.
Cheers,
Haha no I am not. But I am curious of your reasoning. Is it only to keep the gems to yourself?
Jali, it's all about $$$...taxes and the FX exchange rate (USD/CAD)...It's pretty simple, same reasoning as STN's Post $3, and Hungry's Post #4!
Not true. You forget about Bill 101. The bill enforces all companies to operate in French. All official work and communication must be done in French. Employees can speak English with each other. Even during the job interview it must be done in French. Companies have to earn their Francization certificate. The only companies kind of exempt from this are companies that have their clients outside of Quebec.
Great post Patron... As usual
I am surprise to read the outcome tho... The comparison is based on the fact that you are renting a place. We are not kids anymore we do not rent... And also I do not think it takes into account "free" healthcare and "free" education, if you have kids (I quoted the word free because it's not entirely free, let's say much much cheaper then in the USA). The 7$ daycare of my 2 kids probably made me save 50k compared to a US citizen... Maybe more. And that's only daycare... Imagine 12 to 15 years of schooling for 2 kids. Down the road yes financially maybe it's not the best move but as I wrote money is not number one priority for everyone. It is surely not mine. It's a choice to live a different life. Some girl will mary a rich guy solely for the money. Living a rich life but maybe a miserable one as well. Love and passion needs to be first motivator in everything we do.
Cheers,
Bill 101 is perfect. It makes us unique in North America. It does protect that we will still be a French society for many many more years.
But in reality bill 101 is not applied where it makes no sense. And to do and work in a business in Montreal you need to speak English. You can do without French. Yes most will eventually pick up some french and/or become bilingual. But saying that you absolutely need to speak French to live and work here is simply not true.
Cheers,
I side with Jal on this because I really doubt that everyone that doesn’t speak French in Montreal (which is a lot of people by the way) has no job/is on welfare. As a matter of fact, I’ve often encountered situations where the person serving me at a restaurant or store for example, made me switch to English or even called a coworker to serve me because they didn’t speak French *at all*.
Bill 101 is not really applied everywhere. Another example would be warehouse workers. If your only job is to pick items from an invoice and send them to the next employee so they can pack them for shipping, for example, why would you really need to speak French?
I would imagine there are fields where it is indeed absolutely necessary: Doctors, Police Officers, Accountants... People that deal with the general population and whose jobs are a necessity in people’s life and society.
Bill 101 is not really applied everywhere. Another example would be warehouse workers. If your only job is to pick items from an invoice and send them to the next employee so they can pack them for shipping, for example, why would you really need to speak French?
I would imagine there are fields where it is indeed absolutely necessary: Doctors, Police Officers, Accountants... People that deal with the general population and whose jobs are a necessity in people’s life and society.
I worked over 35 years for a major Aerospace company and didn’t really need French.
Yes I could get by if forced but most times everybody else’s English was better than my French.
Got to travel the world and experience many different cultures.
I do speak French with some family members as in these rare cases my French happens to be better, as their English is non existent.
At home I don’t speak English or French.
Yeah I had the odd case where warehouse employees got pissed that I spoke to them in English, but then some of the older employees talked to them and told them we know him for a long time, he is cool, he will speak to you in French if you want but you will be better off speaking to him in English.
Yes I could get by if forced but most times everybody else’s English was better than my French.
Got to travel the world and experience many different cultures.
I do speak French with some family members as in these rare cases my French happens to be better, as their English is non existent.
At home I don’t speak English or French.
Yeah I had the odd case where warehouse employees got pissed that I spoke to them in English, but then some of the older employees talked to them and told them we know him for a long time, he is cool, he will speak to you in French if you want but you will be better off speaking to him in English.
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