Lack of inclusivity within agencies in 2022

[WC3000]

He's not saying providers are refusing to see him, he's saying agencies are not willing to even try to accommodate.

We seem to be going around in circles in this thread.

Handi, what type of accommodation do you need??

And I hate to even ask but, since Handi created this thread, what's your disability? Are we talking about needing wheelchair access? Or are we talking about being comfortable providing sexual services when there's a colostomy bag present? Not trying to be a jerk, but Handi, for the purposes of this discussion, you need to be specific about what type of accommodation you are seeking from the agencies and ladies. Simply saying that you need an accommodation is so vague.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

There was a time where i could see almost anyone beside maybe 1 or 2 girls (that would refuse categoricaly to do outcalls) in the top agencies as an outcall. Now its not the case anymore. As some said, they want to maximize profits and accomodate the providers who probably prefer staying in one place rather than be driven in town and having to deal with heat in summer and cold in winter. Also no driving time = more job time and no gaz money. Does i find it really disapointing? Yes. But what can we do?

To all that don't forget doing incall is much more secure for SP. They know the surround, they know they will not be recorded and that there is no-one hidden in an other room. That explain why many SP doing outcall will go to hotel only and not private house. We have the same security concerns when visiting an incall SP.
But I digress a bit from the main subject. There are lot of discrimation in the society against different groups and different laws tend to eliminate those. As long as prostitution will not be legalized nothing can be done to accomodate disabled people unless some SP are willing to do so.
In the Netherlands, citizens with disabilities receive money from the Government as part of the 'Hookers for the Handicapped' program, to pay for sexual services up to 12 times a year. This move has drastically reduced depression among the disabled, many of whom have never had a chance to explore their sexuality. It's obvious we are far far away from those politics.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

He's not saying providers are refusing to see him, he's saying agencies are not willing to even try to accommodate.

I have no doubt if a girl within an agency would agree to serve this clientele, the agency would act as the middle man. They can charge extra or do whatever they want. The solution is dealing with known independent who accept this duty.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Lets get real, the agencies are not legal commercial establishments therefore are not bound by any labor laws or human rights laws as Like_It_Hot stated. Furthermore this is not about serving burgers or having access to a mall, this is about providing an intimate service. Not all girls will be comfortable or know how to serve a disabled client. Agencies are the worst place to go to, it is like comparing buying clothes off the rack vs made to measure clothes. You go to go made to measure, seeing an Indy is the only route. You need a more personalized contact and discuss your needs with the escort and see what she is able to do. Expect to pay a premium for this.

 

[bodick7]

Sure but there's zero reason for an agency to be discriminatory. And if we want to be seen as legitimate and serious industry, then yeah, there are some societal values such as inclusivity, which is pretty basic, that should be a priority in 2022.

Maybe if they are aware of comments on this board and let’s hope this will change. Agency bosses has to instruct bookers to do so. This won’t come from reluctant bookers who don’t care…

 

[bodick7]

In the Netherlands, citizens with disabilities receive money from the Government as part of the 'Hookers for the Handicapped' program, to pay for sexual services up to 12 times a year. This move has drastically reduced depression among the disabled, many of whom have never had a chance to explore their sexuality. It's obvious we are far far away from those politics.

Public money to provide sex services?
Not possible here. This kind of measure would create a scandal…
Even if it’s for a good cause, it wouldn’t pass.
I sincerely think Quebec is an inclusive society but we aren’t there yet. Maybe some day.

 

[Handi]

We seem to be going around in circles in this thread.

Handi, what type of accommodation do you need??

And I hate to even ask but, since Handi created this thread, what's your disability? Are we talking about needing wheelchair access? Or are we talking about being comfortable providing sexual services when there's a colostomy bag present? Not trying to be a jerk, but Handi, for the purposes of this discussion, you need to be specific about what type of accommodation you are seeking from the agencies and ladies. Simply saying that you need an accommodation is so vague.

It's not about me here, please read carefully my first post.

 

[Eric23]

Bizarre statement.
If it was the case, all ROC and rest of world would be more inclusive and this a myth.

What is ROC?

 

[bodick7]

What is ROC?

Rest of Kanéda

 

[Eric23]

Rest of Kanéda

Well then if you don't see the obvious difference between the current Quebecois ideology and the rest of Canada then you're just pretending.

 

[bodick7]

Well then if you don't see the obvious difference between the current Quebecois ideology and the rest of Canada then you're just pretending.

Difference yes, but lack of inclusivity is a myth.

 

[blow20102010]

For myself the problem is not getting in those incall but I can't transfer from my chair to the bed by myself. Most of girls I want to meet are all from agency that only do incall. Such as Euphoria and Xo, and I'm not trying to bash them please note that. But you know every person, disable or not, have preferences and for disable people it sucks when your preferences only do agency that only do incall. Personally I understand business is business, but again it sucks for disable people.

And most of disable people are not rich so it's hard to afford indys even with those who offers discount.

 

[Fradi]

Yes it sucks when you can’t get what you want or need or can’t afford it.
Unfortunately as stated by many this industry is all about money.
It is not a government controlled business there are no rules or regulations and it caters to what brings in money the fastest both for the agency and the SP that work there.
Indies do cater to all kinds of different tastes and people including disabled and some even give a discount, but yes they don’t come cheap.
There are many people that can’t afford pay for play whether they are disabled or not and it is very unlikely that governments will ever pay for this service for the disabled like in the Netherlands.
Life does suck sometimes and while $$$ doesn’t really buy you happiness, not having any though almost always guarantees you misery.
Unfortunately I don’t see this changing at agencies, you might get lucky with an SP who has a soft spot for people with a handicap and will go the extra distance, I hope you find one.

 

[Ducon]

Some other industries have ignored disabled customers for years, then suddenly all made huge efforts to improve accessibility, because once that trend had started, they pretty much had no choice but to follow, otherwise they would look like jerks.
Legislators contributed too, but I'm not sure whether they were leading or following the trend.
So it's not all about money. It's also about society's expectations at a given time.
If you can encourage one agency to make more effort, others might follow.
Hell, I'd be happy to participate in the lobbying myself.
It's a refreshing change from dudes who are complaining about price or service.

 

[Fradi]

It's a refreshing change from dudes who are complaining about price or service.

What change?
Unless I misunderstood it was specifically a complaint about both price and service only it was from someone disabled.
You are able to shame mainstream companies and restaurants, landlords etc… for not accommodating the disabled and rightfully so they are taxpayers and equal members of society and have a right and should be provided everything possible to make these services easily available.

Escorts and agencies that provide that, well I hate to repeat this but for one it is illegal to begin with and yes it is all about the money and how fast you can bring it in so until the disabled become a significant enough source of income for them it is not going to happen.

 

[RobertNYC]

This line of work is not a charity or social program, and I believe any girl has a right to refuse any type of client upon meeting him for a lot of reasons. To suggest otherwise is servitude and would limit the pool of girls willing to go into escort work. Girls who abuse this freedom or right will find themselves working at low tier agencies or without any business.

Agencies like Euphoria or Vogue aren’t going to tolerate girls showing up at hotel rooms and routinely walking away because of such and such. And a previous poster is correct, without knowing a particular disability or context it’s impossible to formulate a valid opinion. And for further perspective, there are some local agencies here in the tri-state that ask ethnicity and whether you have a disability during the screening process. It’s their right to do that (and yes, I say that as a middle aged white guy).

Once the ball gets rolling then basic GFE services should be provided as expected regardless of disability (since the girl moved forward on the transaction).