There’s a lack of talent because there are minimal amounts of new girls entering the business. Back in the Eleganza days there were new girls all the time with all of the different agencies. Now girls stick around for a lot longer and make careers out of this. Jumping from agency to agency and achieving “legendary” status. Because of this, there is no real need for agencies to get out there and recruit and you can’t blame them for going after the low hanging fruit. Also, there are so many other ways for someone to make a buck these days without escorting. Years ago this town was absolutely hands down the best for new talent. It’s still way more better than NYC IMHO, so I’ll be ok with this for now until somewhere better comes along.
Lack of talent?
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The price can have nothing to do with the quality. I find the agency workers for $250 more than satisfactory ( do your research ), would rather book 2 agency girls 3 hours apart than a $500 girl.
But that's me.
$250 is already more than what some people on this website seem to want to spend.
Slim pickings below that IMO unless you really know what you are doing ( I gave up on Ann, LL, BP a long time ago, rather spend the extra ). Been reading about that econolodge place, could be some gems there for under $200.
As I mentioned on another thread, 250$ strikes me as being an SPs "minimum wage" (and please let's not forget that, other than indies, agencies get a cut of that. And Indies have their own list of overhead costs to deal with).
Expecting full-service for anything less is just unreasonable.
Expecting full-service for anything less is just unreasonable.
$250 is a lot of money but since everything went up; food, housing, taxes.
It’s only normal that we also raise our rates and I am sorry if it doesn’t make everyone happy but it is what it is.
I don’t know what reminiscing about the old days is going to achieve. I don’t think SPs are going to collectively lower their rates.
Believe me, we also miss the days where charging $160/h was a lot.
It’s only normal that we also raise our rates and I am sorry if it doesn’t make everyone happy but it is what it is.
I don’t know what reminiscing about the old days is going to achieve. I don’t think SPs are going to collectively lower their rates.
Believe me, we also miss the days where charging $160/h was a lot.
Seriously. This "I remember when..." is starting to get old.
Especially since our memory is not that good. We always tweak our souvenirs in some ways, therefore we often overestimate how good our past was. We also always forget the aspect that we didn't have the experience we have right now, that we were different. Something might seem like the best experience, but we would relive it today and realize we were just young and stupid at the time and it was not that good.
I think it’s important to talk about the past as a reference or a comparison to the lack of talent that’s out there today. The good old days weren’t just how we remembered it, it was the way it really was here in Montreal. So much more to choose from. Many continue to bring up price. My comments have nothing to do with price, not sure why many continue to bring it up. I did notice over the past few months that the agencies have been bringing in more new talent. Let’s hope this trend continue.
Yeah for sure if you only want to visit agencies you’ll find there’s a lack of talent. More and more women just go straight to being indy.
Mostly people that have friends already in the business but also people that spend a lot of time online and have been influenced.
Maybe expand your horizons a little and you’ll find the abundance of talent you’re hoping for.
Mostly people that have friends already in the business but also people that spend a lot of time online and have been influenced.
Maybe expand your horizons a little and you’ll find the abundance of talent you’re hoping for.
Respectfully, the majority of the independents that I see advertising are well over 30, borderline overweight if not obese, heavily tattooed, or has some type of "alternative" appearance. Like Wolfie7, I'm bemused by how some people have such a hard time understanding what most men are attracted to. Most men prefer women like Olivia Dunne, not Lena Dunham. Sadly, due to the lack of talent and epidemic of simps, there are many men who consider themselves "fortunate" and even "privileged" to be able to pay $400+ an hour for the companionship of the latter
lmao I don’t know where you guys are looking. We must not have the same kind of internet. I see many young athletic women advertising. There will never be a shortage of that
Ok maybe not athletic but at least slim or on the slimmer side. Or maybe we just don’t have the same definition.
But I have seen a few women as small as I am. Now, were they real? I don’t know maybe they’re just using someone else’s photo.
To me, athletic is very different than thin and slender. Maybe you can't find short and skinny women when you search for athletic, indeed.
Unless you are talking about a competition body at 12% bf, which of course you won't find at any time, all year long. But athletic, slender yet muscular with low body fat exists...
Edit: I guess that's why clients love selfies - they show what professional photos can't, as the latter are taken on a single day in the year and don't represent the other 364 days. I'm taking notes.
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"Lack of talent" is quite a euphemism 
All the talk revolves around physical appearance.
All the talk revolves around physical appearance.I don’t think there is a lack of talent in Montreal or that you can’t find a gorgeous young lady to fulfill your needs."Lack of talent" is quite a euphemism
i will say that prices have increased dramatically in the last year. Montreal is still one of the best places in the world.
As for other places around the world there are many things to consider. How familiar you are with that country with the escorting scene do you speak the language.
For instance hobbying In Hungary/Budapest is very different for someone who speaks the language I would think the same in Barcelona.
He said 280-300 but most are actually 260 so yes he was a bit highter but only by a 20 or 2. Well the price i see the most seem to be 260 but i do see 270 and 280 for some ladies on the most popular agencies website.
Honestly i don't think the inflation in agencies been that insane... I would say its overall fair. And thats not white knighting at all. I can only look back to 2009 for personal experience but lets say then the usual price was 180. There was some 160, some 200, but most were 180. I paid once or twice 140 but this was major deal. So ill put it at 180. Thats 15 years ago. Lets say now the equivalent is 260. Thats 80$ more. In 15 years i think its not that far strech. I think where there is "reflexion" (for lack of a better term) is the Indy vs Agency comparison. The gap used to be about 100$ between them. Depending on the lady. Now its minimally 160 and not so rarely is 240 (almost double the price of agency if an indy is at 500/h). And thats nowhere near the end of it. 600 is not just a "that rare thing". Of course with indies it may be a flat fee all inclusive while agencies may charge extras. So its not black and white but you get the general picture.
So wich side is "right"? Lol. Thats debatable.
Personally i can say that when i was younger i was shocked to learn that for under 200$ i could litterally have sex with a "model-like" women. Yes at the time 200$ was still over half than a regular pay for minimal wage for a week, but the simple concept of something that was seen from me as unnaccessible was now accessible and not for a crazy sum ill never have like other things. In comparison a powerfull computer was way over 1000$ wich required a lot more savings. Im only comparing it this way in term of the "luxury aspect" or if you prefer that both these things were not required to live unless you work in computer stuff. I mean mine at the time i paid 300$ and it was very decent for what i used it for. Well when i started i was a strip club guy and i would often pay 50-60$ + beers + entrance for just boobs and butt touching. So being able to only double that and have the whole complete thing ... that seem like a bargain.
Now sure these days i am more "seasoned" and im more "used to the prices" and i don't roll on money at all, in majority by my fault and being a dumbass in my younger years, but i can still manage to have some fun in the hobby ocasionally. Do i wish i could still pay 160$ for 1h with the same beautiful model-like i used to 15 years ago? Of course lol, but that would not be realistic and i think the reality at 260 is rather very fair.
Anyway sorry for that long text of pseudo-analysis. Its just my point of view of course. And evidently a lot of factors are at play in this hobby. Mainly your incomes vs your payments/what you can spare, wich is different from anyone. So it vary for everyone.
