Korbel said:
I'm with you on this one Korbel ... both Clinton and Chretien came in to clean up Conservative mess's ... Tory times are in deed tough times, if Harper wins a majority hang on to your wallet and your job.
PK
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I'm with you on this one Korbel ... both Clinton and Chretien came in to clean up Conservative mess's ... Tory times are in deed tough times, if Harper wins a majority hang on to your wallet and your job.
PK
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No nation has more troops in Afganastan than the United States of America...but maybe that's as it should be since we were the ones that were attacked. I'm amazed at how quickly we all forget what put us there in the first place...That one we didn't start...
We're in Iraq again because we didn't finish that the first time...and if we pull out of Afganistan before we finish there...we'll end up having to go back again too.
BUT I did get a kick out of that youtube clip)
We're in Iraq again because we didn't finish that the first time...and if we pull out of Afganistan before we finish there...we'll end up having to go back again too.
BUT I did get a kick out of that youtube clip
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Al-Qaida attack the U.S not Afghanistan The first golf war mandate was to kick Iraq out of Koweit and that was donejackd1959 said:No nation has more troops in Afganastan than the United States of America...but maybe that's as it should be since we were the ones that were attacked. I'm amazed at how quickly we all forget what put us there in the first place...That one we didn't start...
We're in Iraq again because we didn't finish that the first time...and if we pull out of Afganistan before we finish there...we'll end up having to go back again too.
BUT I did get a kick out of that youtube clip
I found this McCain spoof audio to be hilarious
http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php
http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/mccains_voice_mail_to_palin_le_8644.php
voyageur11 said:
WOW...are you really that blind...where were the folks responsible for that attack hiding??? Who refused to turn them over???
Regarding the Gulf war mandate...BINGO...the US listened to the UN, obeyed the MANDATE and didn't finish the job...
voyageur11 said:
Because Saudi cooperated and hunted down the terrorists. Afghanistan was ruled by the terrorists.
As for Iraq, there are lots of reasons to intervene, the most important being related to this: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=related
Agrippa said:
Saudi has made numerous arrests of it's own citizens and dismantled terror networks. Their country and government have also been victims of terror. You can see all this yourself by reading any news source (liberal or conservative). Google it for yourself.
You should familiarize yourself with the facts before laughing.
The fact that some Saudis (as opposed to their whole government) fund terror activities is not comparable to Afghanistan's situation in 2001.
The Taliban was a bunch of cave dwellers who just said "Sure, you're welcome to stay, thanks for kicking Russia out and letting us run the country now!" They had no resources. On the other hand...
I have no idea what kind of allegiance the L.A. Times has. I picked it at random after googling. The very first paragraph of this article from April 02, 2008 states:
I have no idea what kind of allegiance the L.A. Times has. I picked it at random after googling. The very first paragraph of this article from April 02, 2008 states:
Saudi Arabia remains the world’s leading source of money for Al Qaeda and other extremist networks and has failed to take key steps requested by U.S. officials to stem the flow, the Bush administration’s top financial counter-terrorism official said Tuesday.
Google gives 184,000 hits for "saudi arabia preventing terrorism", wheras 708,000 for "saudi arabia funding al qaeda". Obviously not a real argument, but I can't be bothered looking into this any further for you. You're delusional.
What the Saudi is doing is call in french jeter de la poudre aux yeux I dont see the royal family taking side with the U.S. against Islam for them it is a religious war. I am blind i just cant see like Bush and Cheney thanks godKepler said:
Agrippa said:
It is some wealthy citizens of SA who fund Al Quaeda, not the government of SA. It's right there in the very next paragraph of the article you quoted!
The government of SA must walk a fine line or risk being overthrown.
You need to familiarize yourself with the nuances of issues before disparaging others.
Doc Holliday said:Boy! If that's true, they must have a bunch of Inspector Clouseau's over there!
U.S. Praises Saudi Terror Arrests: http://www.voanews.com/burmese/archive/2007-04/2007-04-28-voa2.cfm and http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18349238/
Also, from the article Agrippa quoted: "[Treasury undersecretary] Levey said the Saudis had been aggressive in going after terrorist cells."
I don't like SA. Their country and it's values go against everything I stand for. Nonetheless we live in a complicated world where simplistic solutions do not work, allies are sometimes limited in how far they can help, and real life sometimes means you need to make deals with disreputable characters.
Who do you think it's worthwhile arresting and making a dent in the funding? Omar who donated a few riyals to the madrasa because he wants to send his son to 'a good private school.' Or Sheik Yer Bouti Al Sarat ibn Fuck Face who is the second cousin of the prince who does nothing with himself yet has millions because of oil profits. They're not going to go after people in the royal family, their family and their close friends.Kepler said:
Regardless of which Saudis specifically are funding extremists, Saudi Arabia still is the number one financier. Even after they have paid lip service to the concept of 'war on terror'! I repeat. The money comes from Saudi Arabia. The terrorists come from Saudi Arabia. The ideas come from Saudi Arabia. Who should they be dealing with? Afghanistan? Iraq? No, Saudi Arabia. Obviously they won't do this because of Saudi Arabia's influence on the oil markets.
The US knew as early as 1996 that the main financier of islamic fundamentalist/terrorism was Saudi Arabia, and that they funneled hundreds of millions of dollars of oil money using unregulated charities to jihad groups and Al Quaeda cells around the world. Nothing was done because everyone from government officials to ambassadors lined their pockets with Saudi money.
Agrippa said:Saudi Arabia. Obviously they won't do this because of Saudi Arabia's influence on the oil markets.
Of course. What would be your suggestion? Overthrow their government and arrest half the royal family? Invade and occupy the country which contains the Muslim world's 2 holiest cities and the world's single largest oil supply?
Every country in the world would line up against the USA, there would be a true holy war, and gas would spike to who knows what per barrel.
In Hollywood movies the good guy wins by sticking to pure principles. In real life, sometimes the best you can do is to deal with the devil.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7681609.stm
The fact is SA, Egypt and other arab countries have been arresting thousands of people and convicting them in Kangaroo courts to demonstrate they are doing something about the problem. So saying they have been doing nothing or encouraging this kind of behavior is not fair. Still, the fact is, nothing has been done to address the root cause because doing so would mean many of the regimes in the area would have to go. The US doesn't want to do that because those in power over there have been obedient to them.
The fact is SA, Egypt and other arab countries have been arresting thousands of people and convicting them in Kangaroo courts to demonstrate they are doing something about the problem. So saying they have been doing nothing or encouraging this kind of behavior is not fair. Still, the fact is, nothing has been done to address the root cause because doing so would mean many of the regimes in the area would have to go. The US doesn't want to do that because those in power over there have been obedient to them.
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