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Montreal still off limits to Americans -- any sense how the absence is affecting the market?

Sol Tee Nutz

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Just a guess but I am thinking that the ratio between American customers to Canadian customers is 100 to 1 in Canada favor. Do not think the US closure is affecting the girls as much as some think.
 
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I was also interested in the original question.

Seems like based on replies from a few locals - the absence of US tourists has had little to no impact ? I'm a bit surprised but realize there are many factors in play.

Any other replies from the locals ? The top stars are still booked up the day before ?

When the border does open there should be a noticeable increase in demand. So you local guys, enjoy it while it lasts lol. We are coming with the money we have saved and will be ready to spend. Big time. I normally have minimum budget limits when I visit Mtl. But next time with the sizeable amount I have saved in my hobby & travel budget since March, there won't be any limits. I expect to be including more threesomes.
AFAIK the thing hurting the agencies and MPs the most is clients are not travelling downtown weekdays (offices went full “work from home” during lockdown, and only recently were allowed to hit 20% capacity), this also means with husbands and wives locked up under the same roof it’s harder to sneak out for a session.. finally, some people are still being abundantly cautious given the current situation.

I’m good friends with the guys behind Nuru (tourist trap) and they miss the Americans dearly though.
 

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The impact of US visitors on the Montreal scene is way overrated. All you have to do is look at the escort prices here in Montreal. The 220 rate was originally designed for local demand. If it was designed for US visitors, it’d be a lot higher. Also, the rate has pretty much stayed constant +/- 20 for several years now, even during Covid. If the Montreal scene was more dependent on business from the states you’d expect to see greater elasticity in the rates. As far as the perception of lighter lineup, one plausible explanation is the fear of getting Covid. After all, Quebec has the highest number of cases by far compared to other provinces.
 

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And here I am thinking my trips from the US every other month to Montreal were having a major financial impact. I’m still heading north when the powers that be allow it!
 

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I think local Quebecers are a pretty horny bunch, they can keep most of the best talent active.
US tourists are of course a huge bonus and we are way more dependant on them for hotels, restaurants than keeping our escorts busy.
They will be sadly missed by all of us until things Improve and the borders are open again, they are essential to our hospitality economy.
If anything people will not go downtown to eat but they will drive there for the ladies.
There is a certain type of hunger that has to be fed.
 

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Most of the big agencies rosters seem to be back to normal, exept some girls seem to have quit for good... but otherwise the size of the rosters are close to what they were before. Otherwise yes i noticed a big decrease in smaller agencies posting, some are completely absent, others wich used to have 3/4 girls every day have 1 or 2 etc. The asian agencies obviously had to close shop for now since from what i understand they had girls coming directly from Asia.

As for the business and "busy" side, i don't know, you would have to ask the girls and bookers.
 
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My question is with no Americans showing up and the hobby is catering to locals and Canadians mostly are the SPs getting more multiple hour meetings like having dinner dates and such. I mean when I was a tourist dinner dates definitely would come to mind if I enjoyed her company. Yet when I was a local only two hour trysts.
 

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Just a guess but I am thinking that the ratio between American customers to Canadian customers is 100 to 1 in Canada favor. Do not think the US closure is affecting the girls as much as some think.

This!! I'm a little puzzled why americans think they are the majority of clients here. Makes no sense. If it was the case we'd charge more since it's pricier in the US. Do they really think canadian men don't have sex?

And its really not the first time a thread like this pops up on here. It also reminds me of that guy who naively asked if prices on canadian agency websites were in CAD or USD. Like... what.

Americans seem to be delusional when it comes to their importance in the montreal escort business lol. I love my American clients but they're not the majority of my clientele (at all) and their absence makes no difference in the market, to me anyways.
 

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Americans seem to be delusional when it comes to their importance in the montreal escort business lol. I love my American clients but they're not the majority of my clientele (at all) and their absence makes no difference in the market, to me anyways.

Thanks Julia.
I really appreciate your presence here.

I was wondering what it was and getting your opinion is really very informative.
There you add your opinion, which all point in the same direction.

As we have just learned that the borders with the USA will remain closed until September 21, it's reassuring for you and for us.

Because Americans actually have this tendency for excess.
 

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I have been trying to book certain local girls here, I have been having a hard time as many are pretty busy.
 

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When you factor in travel costs, hotel prices and having to eat in restaurants then prices all of a sudden are not that lucrative in Montreal.
Of course when all of these can be written of as a business expense and you are simply spending on an SP then it becomes a bargain.
It is also way safer to hobby in Montreal than in the US and much less screening hurdles to jump through.

Prices are useless to argue over, they will always be what the market will bear and if a young lady can command a high price, then more power to her, she obviously must either look fabulous or doing a great job of marketing herself or probably both.
 

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Patron, Julia reports what is happening to her, so she can't conclude otherwise.
 

Numerati

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It is also way safer to hobby in Montreal than in the US and much less screening hurdles to jump through.

That is the exact reason I prefer to hobby in Montreal as opposed to in the U.S when I was in the hobby. The screening process is a real pain in the ass to the point of pretty deeply invasive just for some snatch.
 

Julia Sky

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Ah Patron, maybe you're right, that makes sense. I don't really know who's from where on here to be honest, I just read a few comments and was reminded of a few threads from the past - that currency thread being one of them. Haha!!
 
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When you factor in travel costs, hotel prices and having to eat in restaurants then prices all of a sudden are not that lucrative in Montreal.
Of course when all of these can be written of as a business expense and you are simply spending on an SP then it becomes a bargain.
It is also way safer to hobby in Montreal than in the US and much less screening hurdles to jump through.

Prices are useless to argue over, they will always be what the market will bear and if a young lady can command a high price, then more power to her, she obviously must either look fabulous or doing a great job of marketing herself or probably both.

Fradi, you nailed it. I don’t think Montreal offers the incredible value for escorts as some suggest.

I generally stay in the $300-$350 range here in NNJ with most talent rivaling or exceeding Montreal escort quality, though the overall pool is significantly less. One hour in NNJ is a true 60 minutes of time, and I usually restrict myself to an hour, whereas in Montreal I usually go 90 minutes, and that mysteriously becomes 80 minutes or less with shower time.

Add in a quick drink at the hotel bar or in the room ($40-50 CAD), then factor in hotel and other travel costs and you’ll see I’m not getting a deal. What I am getting is a fun Montreal getaway weekend complemented with Escorts. If I didn’t enjoy going out and about in Montreal I would never come here just for the escort talent, especially since I tend to think talent is downtrending.

It is fun to watch the pricing dynamics of late, though pricing as you say is useless to argue over. I do think anytime a business, including an escort agency, loses a segment of its customer base (American travelers) it has to sting somewhat. This is particularly true for lower and mid-tier agencies. VOGUE and Euphoria will generally continue to sell out their respective lineups.

Regarding screening in the US, often in a particular locale, agency owners know each other well, so it’s often easy to get a vouch.
 
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It would make no sense to go to Montreal to hobby if the prices were the same or close to the US. With the cost of hotel/Airbnb, travel, food, etc not to mention aggravation at the border. I think Ms Sky is wrong on that point.
 

Julia Sky

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What do you mean I'm wrong on that point? I never said anything about our rates being the same as in the US, I said the opposite....... Confusing. lol.
 
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i agree that there are many reasons to go to montreal to see escorts besides the price, however, with the exchange rate the prices are very good- one can see a quality lady for less than $200 us in montreal and you would be hard pressed to find that in the us. (in fact, if you are not near a major metropolitan area in the us, it would be difficult to find the quality of escort available in montreal at any price.) but when you factor in travel and lodging, i usually do drop a considerable sum when i come up to montreal. if you divided my total expenditure by the number of escorts, the price goes up considerably. however, there are a number of other factors that make it worthwhile to travel to montreal. montreal is a great, fun city. i just like walking the streets and find that i can usually walk to anywhere i want to go- so convenient. i like the restaurants and enjoy the strip clubs as a prelude to meeting with an escort. i like that pot is legal and i can get a buzz before an encounter if i wish. also, i have developed relationships with ladies that i have seen in montreal over the years and it is like a homecoming when i return to montreal. god i miss montreal. someone needs to dig a tunnel under the border so that we can get in.
 

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I always can’t sleep the night before I end up taking the flight to Quebec! Just this overwhelming sense of excitement, lol, especially around F1 time. I still have to make it out to Québec City......this pandemic sux balls
 
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