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My Experience with Kim Mtl (independent)

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Kepler

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If every sp could answer to members who post bad reviews, it would be the war on the board.

I disagree with this policy. I think SPs should be allowed to post at least one response. It helps clarify the situation.

And for the record, yeah, even after reading her first response (didn't see the others) I think she was wrong and should have called the guy after not hearing from him. He can't call her, doesn't know her number, but she can call him.

That being said, 18-25 year old women might not be as organized as IBM customer support. It's to be expected. I don't think I was too organized when I was 18 either.
 
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You ever heard of a word called discretion???? She can't call from a taxicab and discuss my hotel room number or what nail polish she is wearing. We are talking about indies in a taxicab, not agency girls with their drivers.

I can see we have some real deep thinkers in this thread.

Wow I'm impressed, you ever heard or TEXTING???!!! most of them text faster than they can speak!

Anyway, think want you want, I dont think the customer is wrong if he choose NOT to buy a laptop just to get "good" customer service...
 
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Frank29,

I agree a TEXT MESSAGE would have been appropriate but Bat-Man's complaint was that he did not get a phone call, not that he did not get a TEXT MESSAGE. In fact that is exactly what I said, that my indy sent me a text, which I received on my laptop at my designated email. It was the SP's desire to communicate by email, but she had my cell # if I had not responded and would have texted me there, which as it turned out she did not have to because I was doing work on my laptop.

Talking on the phone about escorting activities is a big no-no, when in a cab or a bus or a subway.
 
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MarathonMan

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Eager beaver loves to rescue SPs! He's the real batman.

On this one Frank29, I couldn't agree more. When you're charging 250$ and more per hour...it's part of your job to make sure your clients are satisfied?



Wow I'm impressed, you ever heard or TEXTING???!!! most of them text faster than they can speak!

Anyway, think want you want, I dont think the custuner is wrong if he choose NOT to buy a laptop just to get "good" customer service...
 

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Eager beaver loves to rescue SPs! He's the real batman.

I have never met KIM, but it is only fair to suggest the SP's possible perspective otherwise we have a one way street of thought/communication which is synonymous with ignorance. It is not US vs. THEM and if you think so, you are a misogynist.

The Mods did not allow KIM to post, but it is fair for others to speculate reasons as to why she may not have wanted to call.
 
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Frank29,

I agree a TEXT MESSAGE would have been appropriate but Bat-Man's complaint was that he did not get a phone call, not that he did not get a TEXT MESSAGE.

Sorry about that sir, my bad! I did not read that I apologize.

But still, I dont want to point finger at Kim but it's funny how those sp sometimes, (Not all of them) are trying to defend their service, making it look like they are a victim and work their ass off for the clients...:rolleyes:

Most of them never had a real job and it shows. Some of the bull shit I had to put up with would have never made it in the "real" world. I dont know if its fair to compare this business to a normal legit business. But still, most of them are not that educated (no offense but at the end of the day, they suck cock for a living). I dont see any lawyer or doctor sp, and most of them do this because they could not do anything else and they have NO fucking clue what good customer service is. I mean thay show up 2, 3 hours late, they cancel without any warning, they dont call, make up pathetic excuse, taking the client for idiots etc...but at the end of the day, it's pretty much the only way I could bag a HOT 20 something years old chick so it's still worth the hassle...
 
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It's not US vs THEM, it's CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT. We re paying for a service. SP means: Sex PROFESSIONAL. AT 250$/h, that's the minimum we can expect....

PS: Eager I like you, you're one of my all time favorites. Don't get me wrong!


I have never met KIM, but it is only fair to suggest the SP's possible perspective otherwise we have a one way street of thought/communication which is synonymous with ignorance. It is not US vs. THEM and if you think so, you are a misogynist.
 

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It's not US vs THEM, it's CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT. We re paying for a service. SP means: Sex PROFESSIONAL. AT 250$/h, that's the minimum we can expect....

PS: Eager I like you, you're one of my all time favorites. Don't get me wrong!

Exactly! when you dish out almost a pay day for an hour, fuck I expect some service. A lot of time, I tell my self I wont do this shit anymore but since I get rejected by "regular" girl an a daily basis and still need to fuck, here I am. They got you by the balls and know it....
 

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most of them are not that educated (no offense but at the end of the day, they suck cock for a living).

Class act, Frank, especially when any SP responding would get banned

I dont see any lawyer or doctor sp,
No, but they charge more while THEY screw you!

I mean thay show up 2, 3 hours late, they cancel without any warning, they dont call, make up pathetic excuse, taking the client for idiots etc...but at the end of the day, it's pretty much the only way I could bag a HOT 20 something years old chick so it's still worth the hassle...
Gotta reluctantly give you credit for being honest...

I'm not defending KIM since I've only met her socially, but these brave soles taking pot-shots at her when she can't respond is quite humorous. I'm sure her #1 "fan" wishes he could jump on this bandwagon, but he's in a time-out... :rolleyes: I also wonder if other SPs on the board are taking notes? ;)

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Class act, Frank, especially when any SP responding would get banned

No, but they charge more while THEY screw you!

Gotta reluctantly give you credit for being honest...

I'm not defending KIM since I've only met her socially, but these brave soles taking pot-shots at her when she can't respond is quite humorous. I'm sure her #1 "fan" wishes he could jump on this bandwagon, but he's in a time-out... :rolleyes: I also wonder if other SPs on the board are taking notes? ;)

Voyager

I did not mean to insult, I just see it as fact fact. Call it what ever you want to call it , it's still what it is.... I apologize if I insulted anybody but they still have sex for money... It's just that when an sp show up 2 hours late, full of fake excuse, did not call, etc is not good customer service. But in all fairness, they almost all failed me at some point so i'm not pointing finger at KIM, like I said she gave me good service paying for the room, just trying to give my opinion as what customer service is and we dont see much of that in this business.

Just my opinion, sorry if I offended anybody.

ps: I find it a strange rule KIM could not post in this because it's important to have BOTH version to make a wise decision...
 
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your posts have been deleted, members have right of their opinion and if they cross the line, pm a mod. Next time you answer a bad review you will be suspended.M10

Mod 10,

I agree with the prior posters that KIM should be allowed to post here. This is not really a review thread; it's a non-review as Bat-Man never saw KIM. The "non date" was apparently due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication, and everyone learns when we hear both sides of a miscommunication. I understand you may view this as an advertiser posting in a review thread, and while I understand that policy generally, not in these circumstances where there was no date and no real "review".

Frank29,

Insulting SPs is not the way to go about improving their service. The stuff that you posted is simply unnecessary to make your point. We get that the customer is always right. The customer is also stupid sometimes too, and we as readers and as fellow clients should be permitted to inquire as to whether that was the case in this or in any other situation. It's no different than going on a hotel bidding site and learning that a bidding strategy used by another customer failed.
 
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This is not really a review thread; it's a non-review as Bat-Man never saw KIM.

Maybe since this isn't a review, the Mods can move it to the Lounge and let KIM & others participate?
 

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Mod 10,

I agree with the prior posters that KIM should be allowed to post here. This is not really a review thread; it's a non-review as Bat-Man never saw KIM. The "non date" was apparently due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication, and everyone learns when we hear both sides of a miscommunication. I understand you may view this as an advertiser posting in a review thread, and while I understand that policy generally, not in these circumstances where there was no date and no real "review".

Frank29,

Insulting SPs is not the way to go about improving their service. The stuff that you posted is simply unnecessary to make your point. We get that the customer is always right. The customer is also stupid sometimes too, and we as readers and as fellow clients should be permitted to inquire as to whether that was the case in this or in any other situation. It's no different than going on a hotel bidding site and learning that a bidding strategy used by another customer failed.

Alright, fair enough, I apologize to everybody that felt insulted by my comments, it was not my intention and I can admit that I went a bit far... I wanted to stirr things up and I just got fed up of this bullshit...

By the way, the customer IS NOT ALWAYS right, because the customer doesnt have alway all the information and some of his request may not be reasonnable. But on the other end, I can see its frustrating for clients to get played like if they are idiots....

Great idea to move this to the lounge because the way I see it, it's not even about KIm but customer service in this very fascinating business...
 

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As booking is part of the experience, I believe we should keep this thread like this.
I do consider Bat-Man thread as a review...he just had a very poor service.

Sometimes we do review the agency and the receptionnist, let's do the same with Indy.
Indies don't want any receptionnist or driver to make a cut, you want to make 100% of the money so assume 100% of your responsabilities.
 

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My exprience with Kim was wonderful when she was with Devilish which I manage to see her many times .she was one of my all time faivorates .I even saw her when she started with ELEGANZA .when she becames indy I booked her twoice both times did not show up .Did not even call to cancell it.I guess most sps when they have enough cusomers their ego becomes the problem.cause if they see 2 customers and they get to keep at least $400 .To make almost the same amount have to see at least 3 or 4 cutomers and be in the car with the driver min one and halph hour providing her customers are booked back to back.belive me I am done with these princeses(Indys).so many wonderfull escorts availables through the agncies for a much better price and you can pick and choose at the same time.
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Alright, fair enough, I apologize to everybody that felt insulted by my comments...
i completely agree with your honesty so there's absolutely no need to apologize for anything you've said. i find it hilarious when a white knight rides in on his high horse to defend a girl when an issue doesn't even involve him. whoever was insulted and/or offended by your comments needs to get a grip on what they think their relationships are with these girls.

it is possible to be both compassionate towards these girls, yet brutally honest, too. you have been both frank29. don't let the paper sword of a deluded white knight scare you.
 

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cmon Jon, tell us how you "really" feel.......;)
i completely agree with your honesty so there's absolutely no need to apologize for anything you've said. i find it hilarious when a white knight rides in on his high horse to defend a girl when an issue doesn't even involve him. whoever was insulted and/or offended by your comments needs to get a grip on what they think their relationships are with these girls.

it is possible to be both compassionate towards these girls, yet brutally honest, too. you have been both frank29. don't let the paper sword of a deluded white knight scare you.
 

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Mod 10,

I agree with the prior posters that KIM should be allowed to post here. This is not really a review thread; it's a non-review as Bat-Man never saw KIM. The "non date" was apparently due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication, and everyone learns when we hear both sides of a miscommunication. I understand you may view this as an advertiser posting in a review thread, and while I understand that policy generally, not in these circumstances where there was no date and no real "review".
After talking with the other moderators, we decided to move this thread (since, like you said, it isn't a review) into the lounge. I put back the deleted posts and K.I.M (as any other sp) is now allowed to post in this thread.

Mod 10
 
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I saw Kim as an indy and used her e-mail booking system as well as waited for the call 5 minutes prior and had no problems at all. Is she 100% reliable? Probably not. Is anyone here? Probably not... Shit happens. You just don't like it when it happens to you.

BTW Mods, weren't SP's allowed to participate in threads that were about them (review or not)? That was my understanding.
 
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