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A lot of good points have been made here. Most specifically I'd like to acknowledge that an SP has full rights to determine with whom she provides service for, and also that any individual accepted or rejected on the basis of whether or not they are a "black gent" is an example of explicit racism.

That being said, a message from one human to another, it hurts being treated differently. To be ~denied service~ for any reason is not a great feeling, whether justified or otherwise. I personally find it is rather hard to imagine a justifiable reason as to why an entire group of people get this judgment passed on them.

To any black gents reading this, keep your heads up. We've come a long way but there is a long way yet to go.
From my point of view it's absolutely not justified to refuse service to a person due to just being racist. A lot of people are not conscious that they are participating in oppressive behaviour because they use justifications that aren't based in reality. Yes SP's have full rights to determine who they provide services to, but this is more a systemic problem. SP's are people just like everyone else and everyone needs to examine their own personal bias and learn about other people's realities. A lot of clients are racist themselves so the problem is on both sides.
 

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From my point of view it's absolutely not justified to refuse service to a person due to just being racist. A lot of people are not conscious that they are participating in oppressive behaviour because they use justifications that aren't based in reality. Yes SP's have full rights to determine who they provide services to, but this is more a systemic problem. SP's are people just like everyone else and everyone needs to examine their own personal bias and learn about other people's realities. A lot of clients are racist themselves so the problem is on both sides.
maybe this has been answered but I missed it one thing I don't get is why do black escorts refuse black guys.
 

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maybe this has been answered but I missed it one thing I don't get is why do black escorts refuse black guys.

Fear of running into family or friend. We are a small community.

I’m lucky that my family isn’t here so I can see whoever I want without any worry
 
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Murder is a relatively rare crime in Canada but it does happen. However, becoming a victim of murder does not happen at equal rates among different demographic segments of the Canadian population. As can be seen from these statistics published by the Canadian government, blacks males are victims of homicide at a rate that is much higher than for any other demographic segment.

Though Canada does not collect statistics on the race of those convicted of murder and other serious felonies, it is a reasonable assumption that the vast majority of the offenders involved in the murder of black males are other black males. To put it simply, black males in Canada, as in the United States, have very high rates of committing violent crimes. That is precisely why some escorts choose not to meet black clients.

In any case, escorts have an absolute right to choose their clients based on any criteria they choose and they should be able to do so without the accusations of racism that are constantly made against them by some members of MERB.

Number, percentage and rate of homicide victims, by racialized identity group, gender and region


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Murder is a relatively rare crime in Canada but it does happen. However, becoming a victim of murder does not happen at equal rates among different demographic segments of the Canadian population. As can be seen from these statistics published by the Canadian government, blacks males are victims of homicide at a rate that is much higher than for any other demographic segment.

Though Canada does not collect statistics on the race of those convicted of murder and other serious felonies, it is a reasonable assumption that the vast majority of the offenders involved in the murder of black males are other black males. To put it simply, black males in Canada, as in the United States, have very high rates of committing violent crimes. That is precisely why some escorts choose not to meet black clients.

In any case, escorts have an absolute right to choose their clients based on any criteria they choose and they should be able to do so without the accusations of racism that are constantly made against them by some members of MERB.

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Most people on this site, including myself, agree that escorts should have freedom to choose who they associate with and are allowed to engage in discriminatory practises.

As a small business owner most of my negative experiences have come at the expense of two demographic groups that account for a small proportion of the Canadian population. Yet if I tried to discriminate based on my experiences I would be all over the news. Who is looking out for the right of small business owners to choose who they associate and do business with?
 

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Most people on this site, including myself, agree that escorts should have freedom to choose who they associate with and are allowed to engage in discriminatory practises.

As a small business owner most of my negative experiences have come at the expense of two demographic groups that account for a small proportion of the Canadian population. Yet if I tried to discriminate based on my experiences I would be all over the news. Who is looking out for the right of small business owners to choose who they associate and do business with?
Mind asking which two groups?
 

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I believe this perspective is rooted in outdated stereotypes. It seems that some service providers may not accept certain individuals, not out of racism or hate for Black men, but rather from a different concern,they may prefer to avoid potential complications if a Black man happens to know their partner. Additionally, the partner in question may not want to encounter other Black men.

Furthermore, there are unfounded beliefs that Black men may seek to exploit women.Additionally, they often have greater stamina during intimate moments, and many possess a considerable size, allowing for a more vigorous experience., leading to further misunderstanding and discrimination. I find these notions troubling, as they reflect an antiquated mindset that should have no place in the 21st century. Everyone deserves to be treated equally, regardless of their race.

Unfortunately, these attitudes can lead to subtle discrimination and profiling, which I firmly oppose. I have many Black friends who are kind, hardworking individuals. It's unjust to judge an entire community based on the actions of a few misguided individuals.
 
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I believe this perspective is rooted in outdated stereotypes. It seems that some service providers may not accept certain individuals, not out of racism or hate for Black men, but rather from a different concern,they may prefer to avoid potential complications if a Black man happens to know their partner. Additionally, the partner in question may not want to encounter other Black men.

Furthermore, there are unfounded beliefs that Black men may seek to exploit women.Additionally, they often have greater stamina during intimate moments, and many possess a considerable size, allowing for a more vigorous experience., leading to further misunderstanding and discrimination. I find these notions troubling, as they reflect an antiquated mindset that should have no place in the 21st century. Everyone deserves to be treated equally, regardless of their race.

Unfortunately, these attitudes can lead to subtle discrimination and profiling, which I firmly oppose. I have many Black friends who are kind, hardworking individuals. It's unjust to judge an entire community based on the actions of a few misguided individuals.
Black men do not have more stamina or more considerable size, this is another racist stereotype.
 
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Black men do not have more stamina or more considerable size, this is another racist stereotype. Its literally eugenics.
You obviously have no idea what the word "eugenics" means. A stereotype? (yes, but like all stereotypes, possibly rooted in some degree of truth). But there is no way you can equate a stereotype with eugenics.
 

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Statistics are not without bias and do not take social and economic factors into consideration.
Please explain how statisticians should "...take social and economic factors into consideration."

Maybe just ignore data that does not suit their biases? Lie about the data? Falsify the data? Fire the people who collect data accurately? Stop collecting the data altogether?
 

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I believe this perspective is rooted in outdated stereotypes.
You should stick to reviewing escorts-that's one thing you know a lot about.
 
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I’ve seen several black sps over the years & one even became a favorite for several years. However if i called to see an sp & expected to see a caucasian woman show up at my door & she’d turn out to be a black sp instead i’m not sure what i’d do. I think a reaction a person has whether an sp or a client may depend on expectations & not necessarily a racist thing. But i’ve discussed this matter with a few sps over the years. A few caucasian sps told me they had nothing against black people in their personal lives except on the job. They told me that every single time that they or other sps they knew who got ripped off (not paid) every single time the client happened to be black so although the percentage of black clients doing this would probably be small they’d rather just avoid seeing black men altogether & avoid any potential problems. They did acknowledge that it seemed unfair to the majority of potential black clients who were honest clients. One other girl told me that some girls who’d go to calls to see a black client would arrive at the call & other black guys were there waiting with him. It would get them nervous & cause a problem when they’d refuse to stay. However i’ve only heard this from one girl. Another girl told me from her experience girls she knew who had a black boyfriend were prohibited to see black clients. Bros were prohibited to see their hoes. Lol

A couple of black sps didn’t want to see black guys because they feared bumping into a client who could potentially be a family member or an acquaintance. One of my regulars at the time who was an indy was very anxious one day while we were having lunch together because the client she was scheduled to see that night was a black client. She said she had done her screening & she wasn’t worrying about her safety since he was a middle-aged black businessman who was in town for work. So i asked her what the problem was then? She replied “I’ve never slept with a black man in my entire life!” I was shocked. She said that in her private life she was mostly attracted to white guys & when she worked for an agency she’d always be scared of running into a family member or an acquaintance. Anyways the next day we met up for dinner again & she said her date had turned out great & much better than she had ever anticipated.

But it’s not only black guys who get blacklisted by some sps & agencies. One time i was with an sp friend who happened to be a black girl & one night we wanted to have a threesome. So when i was about to call an agency to see someone she told me to specify to the booker that my gf or partner was a black girl. When i asked why she replied that over the years many sps that she had worked with refused to see couples or partner up with a black girl for a threesome if the girl was black. It had happened to her more than once. So it happens to girls as much as it happens to men.
 

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You should stick to reviewing escorts-that's one thing you know a lot about.
I apologize if I didn’t catch your comment; I was preoccupied with Bianca at the time. Isn’t it amusing how you mentioned something about sticking to service providers, especially since I was actually with one.Just a funny coincidence.To be courteous, I’ll address your reply: my comment was simply my opinion. You can choose to take it or leave it, your call! There’s really no need for any unnecessary responses that won’t lead you anywhere.
 

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Are these real pics or fake pics?
Asking the question is answering it :)

Mostly fake pics but some are real - winter for example but she is 700$ per hour and dior 800$ per hour.

When av girls are advertised they tend to be identified so real pics then.

And to make sure we stay on the topic of this thread. Most if not all of these providers are no blacks and many are asian only.
 
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