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NY Gov Spitzer linked to Prostitution Ring

Question: Should Spitzer be Prosecuted?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 28.8%
  • No

    Votes: 37 71.2%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .

General Gonad

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Larry King is interviewing a former SP right now. She is part of a panel that includes a psychologist. She thought that Spitzer was arrogant to see escorts: "...he is acting like a 28 year old stockbroker instead of a 48 year old power broker".

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Don't you feel embarrased of being Americans?

I visited Montreal, Costa Rica, and Rio exclusively and let me tell u something: All of these places are filled with Americans. Every year, you have to fly thousands of miles abroad in order to fullfill your normal 'manly' fantasies.

Just legalize prostitution already in your country and get over with these childish acts.

ps: people in the US are more offended by the dude seing a prostitute than the whole money laundering thing.



This is why I want to move to europe..
 

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Spitzer had been governor for less than 15 months. He was elected in 2006 with 69 percent of the vote, the highest plurality ever in a New York gubernatorial race, on a promise to shake up the state's politics.

Well at last we've found a politician who kept his promise! (Maybe not the way he intended though!)
 

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EagerBeaver said:
Infanticide,

Other than that, how was he to work for? I don't know if you recall the tax case involving Connecticut.........he got the better of Blumenthal who is a damn good AG.
He had great people working under him. I met him maybe 7 times in the 3 months I interned there, he didn't micromanage. The NY AG's office has some very good people working there, from the top down, even the support staff there is great, very low turnover.
 

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Medic_565 said:
Maybe she'll go the Vanessa Williams route and establish a successful career separate from this "incident".


or better yet, maybe we'll see her next year on American Idol.
 

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I was watching her myspace page for fun tonight. The pages have a hit counter. She was getting, literally, 10,000 hits a minute.
 

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coco-des-îles said:
And having to go on television with his wife next to him watching him apologize, is this what we call hell! It will be funny to see that lady run for President one day!

coco,

Could Silda Spitzer have looked any less supportive standing on that podium as Eliot delivered his resignation speech?

BTW, the New York Post is reporting in this morning's editions that Silda Spitzer has kicked Eliot out of her bedroom, and it is expected that she will only stay in the marriage through the end of his legal troubles. The divorce petition can be expected in a matter of weeks.

The New York Post also is reporting that at the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal 10 years ago, Silda mocked Hilary Clinton for standing by Bill Clinton and vowed she would never have done the same if it happened to her. Now that it has happened to her, it is her chance to show that she can walk the walk as well as she talks the talk.
 
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EagerBeaver said:
coco,

Could Silda Spitzer have looked any less supportive standing on that podium as Eliot delivered his resignation speech?

BTW, the New York Post is reporting in this morning's editions that Silda Spitzer has kicked Eliot out of her bedroom, and it is expected that she will only stay in the marriage through the end of his legal troubles. The divorce petition can be expected in a matter of weeks.

The New York Post also is reporting that at the time of the Monica Lewinsky scandal 10 years ago, Silda mocked Hilary Clinton for standing by Bill Clinton and vowed she would never have done the same if it happened to her. Now that it has happened to her, it is her chance to show that she can walk the walk as well as she talks the talk.

EB

Different political ambitions. Silda has none as far as we know while Hilary Clinton would not be where she is today had she walked and not remained supportive.
 

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I think the most popular response to this news is “How could anyone be so dumb”. The most logical response would have to be …”He is a liberal”:D
 

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So how many high profile Johns canceled their appointments with high end SPs this week?:D

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I had wondered if we were going to see a Budd Dwyer-type event at the press conference:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTdjobNdvAg

This was around 1980. The guy was a high-ranking official in the state of Pennsylvania who got caught in some kind of scandal. This was his "resignation" press conference.
 
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Spitzer Fights to Avoid Charges After Resignation

Spitzer Fights to Avoid Charges After Resignation (Update6)

By David Glovin and Patricia Hurtado
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March 13 (Bloomberg) -- New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, who resigned yesterday amid allegations that he patronized prostitutes, is now in a legal fight to avoid criminal charges.

Spitzer, 48, stepped down after the New York Times reported he was ``Client 9'' of an international call-girl ring whose operators were charged with crimes last week. Spitzer's lawyers need to persuade the U.S. government not to file related charges against him because he allegedly summoned prostitutes to Washington and paid them secretly, former prosecutors said.

Prosecutors are more likely to consider going after Spitzer, a Democrat, for money laundering or misusing his office than for prostitution because customers of call girls are rarely pursued by federal authorities, the lawyers and ex-prosecutors said.

``Given the rarity of federal prosecutions of this kind of conduct, the motives of the prosecutors might be called into question,'' said Steven Peikin, a former U.S. prosecutor in Manhattan. ``The facts that are not well known are those surrounding the financial transactions. That would be an area of greater concern.''

U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia in New York declined to say after the resignation if he's investigating Spitzer. He said only that ``no agreement'' has been reached with the governor. A call to Garcia's office today for comment on any talks with Spitzer's lawyers was not immediately returned.

The assistant prosecutor handling the case against the prostitution ring is chief of Garcia's public corruption unit, formerly headed by Spitzer's lead lawyer Michele Hirshman.

Defense Team

Spitzer's defense team also includes Theodore Wells, who unsuccessfully defended former vice presidential aide Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby last year for lying about the leak of the identity of a U.S. intelligence agent, and Mark Pomerantz, who won a reversal of an obstruction conviction in 2006 of former Credit Suisse banker Frank Quattrone. All three are lawyers with the New York firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison.

The resignation of Spitzer, who was elected governor in November 2006, followed a criminal investigation of payments made to what prosecutors said was an international prostitution and money-laundering ring called the ``Emperors Club VIP.''

On March 6, prosecutors said they charged four people for operating the business. Client 9, not identified in the criminal complaint, paid $4,300 for sex with a prostitute named ``Kristen'' at a Washington hotel in February. The club accepted payments through front companies, according to the complaint.

Client 9 summoned Kristen from New York to Washington and made secret payments to her, according to an FBI affidavit supporting the complaint.

`Private Matter'

The New York Times identified Client 9 as Spitzer and said investigators suspected he may have wanted to conceal the source and recipients of his money. Spitzer didn't admit the conduct in resigning. He apologized for what he called ``a private matter.''

Kristen was identified by the New York Times as Ashley Dupre, 22, of Manhattan. In 2006, she legally changed her name from Ashley Youmans to Ashley Rae Maika DiPietro, the paper said. On March 10, Ashley Youmans appeared in federal court in New York, where her lawyer, Don Buchwald, said she was subpoenaed as a witness in a grand jury investigation, according to a recording of the proceeding.

Buchwald confirmed she had received a subpoena, declining to say if she is Kristen or if she testified to the grand jury.

Federal investigators got help from Andrea Schwartz, a Brazilian woman who pleaded guilty to New York state drug and prostitution charges after she was accused of running a brothel that catered to corporate clients, the New York Post reported.

Second Prostitute

Schwartz once worked for Emperors Club VIP and provided U.S. authorities with the paper trail that linked Spitzer to the prostitution ring, the Post said. Investigators gained access to her paychecks from QAT Consulting, a company that owned Emperors, the Post said. Client 9 made payments to QAT, the complaint said.

Investigators were already probing thousands of dollars in checks that Spitzer wrote to QAT, the paper reported, citing sources it did not identify. Schwartz was deported to Brazil last night, the Post said.

Authorities also will examine Spitzer's bank, credit-card and other records dating to 1999, an inquiry that could take months, the Post reported, citing a law-enforcement source.

Spitzer may be open to charges that he violated the Mann Act, which makes it a crime to transport someone across state lines for prostitution, lawyers said.

He could also be charged with wire fraud, if he made false statements about the source or destination of his funds; structuring, if he made payments to avoid U.S. requirements on reporting cash transactions of more than $10,000; or money laundering, if he knew the ring was using front companies to move money illegally, the lawyers said.

Selective Prosecution

Spitzer's attorneys, who declined to discuss the case, probably will press numerous arguments to persuade prosecutors not to bring charges, the defense lawyers said.

``I'd approach it by saying to the U.S. Attorney's Office that if you prosecute me, you've got to prosecute'' Clients 1-8, said William Mateja, who formerly helped oversee the Justice Department's Corporate Crime Task Force. ``They don't want to be accused of selective prosecution,'' a potential legal defense.

The other eight clients mentioned in the criminal complaint haven't been identified by prosecutors.

The Mann Act

Bradley Simon, a former federal prosecutor in Brooklyn, said the facts in the complaint could support a charge of violating the Mann Act because Client 9 is ``inducing and persuading a woman to cross state lines for sex.'' That law is normally used in conjunction with other violations and usually when it involves a minor, he said.

The law ``is typically reserved for people who operate prostitution rings,'' said Peikin, who's now at the Sullivan & Cromwell firm in New York. ``I would be arguing that the spirit here is not intended to reach this kind of conduct.''

Prosecutors may have a tough time supporting a structuring charge, said Joshua Hochberg, who once headed the Justice Department's fraud section. ``I'm not clear whether the financial transactions were done in any way to evade a reporting requirement,'' said Hochberg, a lawyer in Washington with McKenna, Long & Aldridge.

Bruce Zagaris, a defense attorney at Berliner, Corcoran & Rowe in Washington, said prosecutors might have a shot at a structuring case because of the way Client 9 arranged the payments in cash in amounts less than the $10,000 threshold required for currency reports.

Money Laundering

Money laundering isn't a common charge in prostitution cases, said Mark Arnold, a former bank secrecy auditor at Wells Fargo & Co. ``If you go out and do money laundering, usually it's for tax evasion,'' he said.

A fraud charge, based on the notion that Spitzer lied about the source or recipient of his payments, also may be flawed. ``Who's he trying to defraud?'' Mateja said. ``It sounds like it's money that was his money.''

Based on the likely charges, ``it seems unlikely'' Spitzer will spend time in prison, Douglas Muzzio, a Baruch College political science professor, said in an interview today with Bloomberg Radio.
 
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