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rumpleforeskiin

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Tribute to the Yanks fans and their real outlook on desperation instead of the facade they present.
Actually, K, most Yankee fans I know aren't acting desperate. Our favorite "merb" Yankee fan is rather unique in his desperation. We don't know about the other since he's under a rock. Don't forget, of course, that Benghazi Boy isn't a Yankee fan.

Of course, most Yankee fans I know aren't acting desperate because they don't have much hope for 2015.
 

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Yanks just scored four runs thanks to two walks, two hit batters, and a error on a double play ball. The Blue Jays just morphed into the Maple Leafs.
 

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Bwaahhaaahh


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What kind of donkey makes that sound?


Yanks just scored four runs thanks to two walks, two hit batters, and a error on a double play ball. The Blue Jays just morphed into the Maple Leafs.

Why don't you tell us what the Red Sox did tonight? And you must watch more Yankee games than Red Sox games, rumps.

Let's see. The season is 2 games old and the Yankees and the Red Sox are tied in the standings 1-1 each. Are you LOL or Bahawhing tonight?
 

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I see the Ace* of the socks goes for them tonight, for the contract he signed he had better pitch a no hitter. No problem right, afterall he is pitching against a triple A team down in the city of brotherly love.

Maybe, the Red Sox should have signed Porcello for 8 more years instead of 4?
 

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Welcome home closet Yankee fan!! Bwaaahhhh.
This one's just for Benghazi Boy, because I know how much he loves, loves, loves the Yankees and takes his cues from Rupert Murdoch.

Fragile, stiff, confused: Small chance of revival from Yanks’ big bats

By Joel Sherman April 8, 2015 | 11:00pm

The controversy whether Masahiro Tanaka has lost his fastball or not has annoyed the Yankees.

But, really, they should just say, “you’re welcome.”

Without Tanaka, the conversation would be about an offense that has way less oomph than even this version of Tanaka’s fastball. Ultimately — health permitting — Tanaka only will appear in 30 games. This lineup could be the stench bomb that keeps giving for 162. The batting order is thinner than the pinstripes on the home uniforms.

Yes, the Yankees won Wednesday and scored four runs. But that had way more to do with Mother Nature and the Blue Jays than anything delivered by a Yankee not named Jacoby Ellsbury.

We can say it is only two games and the second game was played in the kind of windy, rainy, frigid conditions that make run-scoring more challenging. It would have been hard to hit a golf ball out of the Stadium.

But this isn’t really just two games. It is the past two years and many of the same characters that turned the Yankee attack meek still being around. It is an entire spring when scout after scout wondered just how this club would score runs while using words like old and slow and non-athletic and faded.

“I think we are going to score runs,” Ellsbury said.

Of course he does. No one sends up a white flag two games into a season.

But here is a question: Whom would you want batting for the Yankees in a big spot? Probably Ellsbury or Brett Gardner. Which is good. Because they are the leadoff and No. 2 hitters. But that means you are not picking those who hit Nos. 3, 4, 5, 6 — well, you see the trend. The middle of the Yankee lineup looks like a relic from an archaeological dig.

Maybe there can be a revival. But a group revival? You would have to have incredible faith or a time machine to be a true believer.

So that puts bigger weight than ever on Ellsbury and Gardner, both so rare in this Yankees lineup because of their relative prime age, pedigree and athleticism. Thus, they are not just the energizers and catalysts. They also need to be run producers.

In the opener, Gardner homered for the Yankees’ lone run. In Game 2, Ellsbury went 2-for-2 with two walks. He singled and stole a base that was instrumental in producing the Yankees’ first run. In the eighth inning, Ellsbury had the only well-struck hit.

The rest of the Yankees move too slowly or don’t hit enough. Carlos Beltran looks like late-stage Andre Dawson, a great player gone stiff from too much wear and tear. Brian McCann still seems caught between what kind of hitter he wants to be in Yankee Stadium — use the whole field or fall for the seduction of pull, pull, pulling toward the short porch (and the shift). Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez are fragile and fallen.

A win is a win and no one gives them back. But even while scoring those three eighth-inning runs, the Yankees hardly shocked and awed.

The Yankees got the three runs with a pop-up by Chris Young that blew away from second baseman Devon Travis for a double, two hit batsmen, one hit that went off a Toronto glove (by Chase Headley that should have been an inning-ending 1-2-3 double play), a wild pitch, an intentional walk and Ellsbury’s smashed single to center. The minimum you could score sending nine to the plate is three runs and the Yankees got the minimum — enough to win, but certainly not inspire or encourage.

Murderers’ Row it wasn’t.

Plus, we saw Toronto replace one lefty (Aaron Loup) with another (Brett Cecil) because the Yankees lean so far to the left that opponents are going to use them heavily in the late innings. The righty used in the eighth was 20-year-old Roberto Osuna, who can tickle triple-digits on the radar guns. He entered to face A-Rod because the belief is Rodriguez cannot handle high-end heat. So we will see plenty of this, too.

Maybe A-Rod will have his bat speed or perhaps McCann will figure out how to use the Stadium to his full advantage or Beltran and Teixeira will be reborn or Headley will find what now feels like that aberrational near-MVP campaign or Drew will rediscover at least competence.

But that is now a long math equation with a pretty low probability for each event. For now, it is Ellsbury and Gardner and pray for, well, hit by pitches or wild pitches.

Ask yourself this: Do you think Tanaka has a better chance to rediscover his best self or for this lineup to do the same?
 

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Most people just don't understand
it's not safe out there, so much hate
we were born this way, it wasn't a choice
and how every little thing we do is scrutinized
so little tolerance, not knowing who you can trust
came out to my dad and he disowned me; said now his life's a failure
but maybe it's our fault, maybe we screwed up
maybe we had too many in your face parades in the 90's
maybe our most visible live up to the worst stereotypes
but many of us are just normal everyday people
trying to fit in and hide the tears
being a bit less S and a lot more M
hiding in here waiting for a new morning



 

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Welcome home closet Yankee fan!! Bwaaahhhh.

You must be talking about rumps, K. No one talks more about the Yankees and posts articles about the Yankees AND listens to John S. and Susie W. than rumps.
 

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Matt Harvey stepped on the mound after 18 months away, and looked like he never missed a beat

9 strikeouts in 6 shutout innings

I was a good day in Metland today :thumb:

Best Regards

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Jays easily won last night's contest against the hated Yankees & should easily be 3-0 to start the season had their bullpen not totally collapse in the 8th inning of game 2.

The Red Sox won, but that was against one of the worse teams in all of baseball.

I'm revising an earlier prediction: the Yankees will actually finish in last place, not Tampa. This is simply a bad baseball team. How bad? A-Rod is still one of their top players. That's how bad it is.
 

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Here's another one for my number one fan, just back from a tour of Benghazi Delusionland.

from John Tomase at WEEI.com
IT'S OK TO FEEL SORRY FOR YANKEES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOWHERE CLOSE TO CONTENDING
PHILADELPHIA – The Yankees can't spend their way out of this one.

Years of mismanagement and a blatant disregard for the future have finally caught up to the Bombers, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.

The Red Sox open a series in New York on Friday, one day after the Yankees fell to 1-2 following a 6-3 loss to the Blue Jays.

While the Red Sox bask in the glow of perhaps the best offense and minor league system in baseball, the Yankees are more bloated than a beached whale.

Shortstop Didi Gregorius is the only regular in his 20s. Catcher Brian McCann and center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury already look like potential free agent mistakes. Alex Rodriguez is a (bleep)-show unto himself. The rotation could be the best in the division, but is just as likely to lose Masahiro Tanaka to Tommy John and CC Sabathia to osteoporosis.

The Yankees are built for the wrong era. Back when steroids coursed through the game like Alaskan crude, building around 30-somethings wasn't just a worthy gamble, but smart. Why bet on someone unproven when you could get an All-Star with the knowledge that his prime might stretch to 37?

Not anymore, though. The best teams recognize that it's hard to win without at least a complement of 20-something regulars. Mixing them with veterans is fine, as long as your aging stars aren't tripping on walkers en route to first base.

Just consider the respective lineups. The Red Sox start a pair of 22-year-olds in Mookie Betts and Xander Bogaerts, as well as 28-year-old Pablo Sandoval. The catcher was supposed to be 24-year-old Christian Vazquez, but even with Vazquez done for the year, 23-year-old Blake Swihart waits in the wings should a need arise.

Yes, there are guys in their 30s like Dustin Pedroia, Mike Napoli, Hanley Ramirez, Shane Victorino, and of course, David Ortiz, but the Red Sox can augment them with players such as Rusney Castillo, Deven Marrero, or Garin Cecchini in the short term, and Yoan Moncada, Rafael Devers, and Manuel Margot down the road.

The Yankees are built like a 2008 All-Star team, and that's not a good thing. In addition to the aforementioned vets, they also start Carlos Beltran (37), Stephen Drew (32), Brett Gardner (31), and Chase Headley (31 shortly), a third baseman they signed to a four-year deal because they knew A-Rod was done there, despite being owed as much as $94 million.

On the pitching side, the Yankees are your ultimate boom-or-bust group. In addition to Tanaka's elbow and Sabathia's body, there's also the shoulder of big right-hander Michael Pineda. The Red Sox may not have an ace, but they've got depth. The Yankees hopes are hanging by a thread, though their bullpen is absolutely a weapon, particularly with the left-right tandem of Andrew Miller and Dellin Betances closing things out.

But age and injury are just the start. Then there's money. It turns out the Yankees have financial limits, and they're up against them, thanks to some of the worst contracts in baseball.

A-Rod is signed through 2017, when he'll make $21 million at age 42 to complete a $275 million disaster. Ellsbury ($153 million) and Tanaka ($155 million) are each signed through 2020. McCann and Headley are inked through 2018. Sabathia has a vesting option that could keep him in pinstripes through 2017. Beltran remains on the books through 2016.

In the days of Kevin Brown, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, and Jason Giambi, the Yankees could live with such deals, because they knew the players would continue, um, producing. Now they're anchors.

The Red Sox figured this out, which is why they let Jon Lester walk, signed Ramirez for four years, and recently extended right-hander Rick Porcello for similar terms. They're not going to let themselves land in a Yankees situation, where they've got little choice but to wait for their horrible contracts to expire before they can even begin to think about rebuilding.

Those deals have a secondary effect that's just as onerous, however. Since many of the above players arrived via free agency, they cost the Yankees high draft picks. Twice in the past four drafts, the Yankees haven't picked their first player until the 50s (though to be fair, they had 3 first-rounders in 2013). The players that should've restocked their system either didn't sign (Gerrit Cole), didn't produce (Slade Heathcott, anyone?), or may as well not have existed (their 2010 draft has delivered a combined WAR of minus-0.1). Their farm system generally ranks in the bottom third of the game, even after a $17 million spending spree in the international market last summer.

The Red Sox, meanwhile, boast one of the two or three deepest farm systems in the game. They've refused to deal their prospects, have done a better job developing them, and now boast potential big leaguers throughout the system. Third base alone is packed, for instance, with Sandoval blocking the path of Cecchini, Sean Coyle, Devers, former first-round pick Michael Chavis, and maybe even Moncada down the road.

They've also got a number of pitchers with potential, including lefties Henry Owens, Eduardo Rodriguez, and Brian Johnson, the last of whom tossed five shutout innings Thursday night in a season-opening win for Triple A Pawtucket.

As crazy as it sounds, multiple evaluators consider the Yankees at least three years away. The Yanks need to turn over an aging core without succumbing to the allure of quick fixes in free agency, but also without upper-level prospects to fill the void.

If they're impatient, they could land in free agent jail, a lot closer to the Jets and Knicks among the Big Apple's sporting woebegone than anyone woud've imagined.

So when the Red Sox open on Friday, take a good look. This might be the closest the Yankees get to first place all season.
 

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from John Tomase at WEEI.com

IT'S OK TO FEEL SORRY FOR YANKEES, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOWHERE CLOSE TO CONTENDING


The Red Sox did everything they could to give away the game yesterday...and early this morning. Bad mistake pitches, bad base running, runners galore left on, fielding errors, especially giving up runs four times after seeming to end it...and still the Yankees couldn't steal this one with all the gift wrapping in the house that Ruth didn't build.

Well, FIRST BLOOD TO THE RED SOX. :D

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Merlot
 

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Jays easily won last night's contest against the hated Yankees & should easily be 3-0 to start the season had their bullpen not totally collapse in the 8th inning of game 2.

The Red Sox won, but that was against one of the worse teams in all of baseball.
I'd say they both won against two of the worst teams in baseball.
 

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SILENCE OF THE SHAMS!
In case you have not heard yet the Red Sox BEAT the Yankees again today by a score of 8-4. Joe Kelly pitched one-hit ball for seven innings and the Red Sox steamed right over the Yanks in front of their fans who paid to see the pinstripes fail for the 4th time in 5 games. Well, like our board friends, it looks like arriving is one thing, staying is another. Is..."faithful"...still connected with being a Yanks fan?



I'd like to hope the dominant performance by Kelly indicates some answers about the type of starting pitching Boston is going to have for the season, but it's one start and after all...it is just the Yanks who don't seem to be able to do any better than getting by on isolated homers against relievers with just 4 hits total this time. Joe Kelly looks good with a fastball reported at between 93-98 mph. That a devastating range for any hitter to deal with. But again, it was just the Yanks.

Cheers,

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Congratulations to the New York Yankees pitching for finishing second in the AL and third in MLB in team ERA, could be a telling sign going into the regular season, let the season begin or as the Red Sox call it "reality sets in".:nod:

Don't forget Merlot, which team had the 2nd best AL ERA in Spring Training??? As we all know what Joe.t thrives on are Spring Training stats. BTW, who was that abominable 1st basement for NY today? Damn, he was awful.
 

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Yo, Curly is back. Moe and Larry have been hyperventilating since the Red Sox have won 3 out of their 4 games, Merlot, I mean, Curly, has been allowed to join them.

BOYZZZ!!!

SILENCE OF THE SHAMS!
In case you have not heard yet the Red Sox BEAT the Yankees again today by a score of 8-4. Joe Kelly pitched one-hit ball for seven innings and the Red Sox steamed right over the Yanks in front of their fans who paid to see the pinstripes fail for the 4th time in 5 games. Well, like our board friends, it looks like arriving is one thing, staying is another. Is..."faithful"...still connected with being a Yanks fan?



I'd like to hope the dominant performance by Kelly indicates some answers about the type of starting pitching Boston is going to have for the season, but it's one start and after all...it is just the Yanks who don't seem to be able to do any better than getting by on isolated homers against relievers with just 4 hits total this time. Joe Kelly looks good with a fastball reported at between 93-98 mph. That a devastating range for any hitter to deal with. But again, it was just the Yanks.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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BOYZZZ!!!



The Red Sox did everything they could to give away the game yesterday...and early this morning. Bad mistake pitches, bad base running, runners galore left on, fielding errors, especially giving up runs four times after seeming to end it...and still the Yankees couldn't steal this one with all the gift wrapping in the house that Ruth didn't build.

Well, FIRST BLOOD TO THE RED SOX. :D

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Merlot

I see it the other around, Merlot. Each time the Red Sox pulled ahead (the visiting team bats first in the inning, Merlot. That's how baseball works), the Yankees came back to tie (16th and 18th inning). 19 innings of baseball is tough for both teams. Both were running out of pitchers. 19 innings is more than 2 regular baseball games. The last pitchers for both teams each pitched more than 50 pitches each.

The season is only 4 games old and 158 to go. Don't go scheduling your parades. You'll be quite disappointed.
 
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