Panhandler - Atwater Metro

[hungry101]

Hungry: Thank you. I’m working on a project, which I’m not going to talk about here, but I already know what I want to do when I retire

Glad to hear it. I do wish you well.

 

[Fradi]

i know all of them by name.
.

Why?
What is your fascination with homeless people and beggars?

 

[C.B. Brown]

Why?
What is your fascination with homeless people and beggars?

i said i think i know you didnt I

 

[Bred Sob]

If anything, "career beggars" at least do something for the money. They clean your windows or entertain you with circus stunts or play music.

I wonder, have you ever driven a car? If so, have you ever had a big nasty looking guy approach you at a traffic light and start spreading some sticky substance all over your windshield? That is, if you weren't quick enough to turn the wipers on. An entertaining circus stunt indeed.

 

[Fradi]

Obviously...... i said i think i know you didnt I

What is the fact that you may or may not know me got to do with anything and your fascination with homeless people.
I doubt that you know me seeing as you thought I was Julia before.

Why would you know me, I was never homeless in my life lol , except when I was six and was in refugee camps.
That leaves a lasting memory and gives you the drive to never be homeless again.

 

[Julia Sky]

I wonder, have you ever driven a car? If so, have you ever had a big nasty looking guy approach you at a traffic light and start spreading some sticky substance all over your windshield? That is, if you weren't quick enough to turn the wipers on. An entertaining circus stunt indeed.

wow big deal dude. You have windshield liquid (lave-glace, don’t know what the English word is sorry) for that. It’s not the end of the world. If you had to choose between being homeless or having to press a button in your car to clean the window, which one seems the easiest to have to go through? People always complain for the most petty reasons when it comes to homeless people. Poor you. Who will think of the poor dude with a greasy car window on his way home while other people have to sleep in the snow?

 

[Bred Sob]

wow big deal dude

Yes, I am familiar with the way Internet forums function. People opine on things they have no clue about and then get indignant when they are challenged.

Good luck fighting your straw men!

 

[Julia Sky]

You say this like you think I’ve never experienced it. Doesn’t matter whether I was the one driving or a passenger. All the drivers I’ve been with when it happened didnt react like cry babies about it. Maybe a little sigh, but then they cleaned their window (actually the car pretty much did it on its own, I’m sure you know how cars work) and went about their day.

Im not saying it can’t be annoying, but it really is not as much of a big deal as being homeless is. Funny you mention this about " people having opinions about stuff they have no clue about" considering you seem to have opinions about homeless people. When was the last time YOU had to sleep in the snow? Or had to worry about where you will sleep next week? I can promise you that having a greasy car window is literal joy next to being homeless. I’m sorry if you think differently. Bold. Keep "sobbing" about it all you want, it won’t change the fact that your poor little window being greasy is NOTHING compared to being homeless.

I did a rod trip across Canada, back and forth, after 12,000 kilometers you should see how many dead bugs were stuck on the car. It was disgusting but I never for one second thought that was the worst thing that could happen to a human being. I paid the car wash and went about my day.

 

[Bred Sob]

I think the straw men you are creating are too strong (for you) to beat. Maybe it makes sense to start with some easier ones, just a thought.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I wonder, have you ever driven a car? If so, have you ever had a big nasty looking guy approach you at a traffic light and start spreading some sticky substance all over your windshield?

I have had to use their services once to get weed in Montreal, my future ex wife flushed my weed down the toilet and figured street kids can help, good product also.

 

[Julia Sky]

I thought I was crazy but your ex wife seems crazier!! Haha you don’t waste someone’s weed like that!!

 

[hungry101]

Why would you know me, I was never homeless in my life lol , except when I was six and was in refugee camps.
That leaves a lasting memory and gives you the drive to never be homeless again.

God bless you Fradi. Yes, I would say that you experienced homelessness. I know quite a few people like you. I worked with a guy of Japanese descent that was forced into an internment camp in California and I currently work with a refugee from Cuba after his grandfather was jailed. I'm having a coffee with another friend tomorrow that rose from poverty on the West Bank and is now worth more than 5MM$ and another guy who's parents escaped the Bolsheviks in the Ukraine through the refugee system etc...The one thing they all have in common is that they are not going back there. They are not going to be poor and homeless again. There is another thing they all have in common: They are not/where not whiners. They don't need a safe space and they do not walk around with a chip on their shoulder acting perpetually offended by every perceived slight.

 

[Fradi]

Thanks Hungry,

Being an immigrant basically all your life no matter where you go, teaches you to fight for everything in life both physically and mentally.
You don’t have time to whine and it always stays in your memory that you want something way better for your children.
For me I guess it wasn’t all that tough in the camps I was a kid I got to play all day with a hundred other kids and no school.
Must have been horrific for my parents.
The funny thing is later as I did , you get to visit and stay with relatives of your homeland and you realize you could never really live there that even though you speak the language as well as they do you would still be an immigrant even there and it is not your home anymore.

The main thing is people here in North America don’t realize just how lucky they are living in a place where if you put your mind to it and work hard you can achieve a life that you always dreamed of for your kids. You are free to say what ever you like ( well with the Me too may be not) go wherever you want and work wherever the pay is best.
what more could you ask for, the rest is up to you.

 

[C.B. Brown]

Fradi my grandparents both sides all of them were imagrants .
my grandfather served in the war
if not for him and many like him, we would all be speaking german today.
them.

Many who panhandled near cabot park have died,were killed or committed suicide in this time.
My opinion is just panhandle and show respect , the scam artists like the lady in the article
who i saw since 1997 personally do this, i have no respect for.my 2 cents

 

[C.B. Brown]

Nothing has changed this lady is here every day in a nice warm metro area.contrast in verdun on welligton today 1.30 pm
In front of iga a young polite non agressive homeless man freezing his ass off .woman cop comes along puts her lights on tells him to move or get a ticket
.so i go to her and say you got to be kidding this guy looks like he needs money why would anyone sit otherwise

i mention the gypsy lady at atwater .
her reply..... like every cop.. ya we all know her you don't have to give her money.

great why do you bother this guy.
cop says its a busy time of the year lots of pedestrians

so i say to the cop ..hey atwater metro has 38,000 people go through daily
got that from alexis neon admin
but you can google.it https://www.neo-traffic.com/en/mall/place-alexis-nihon
this us why the gypsy only needs 1% to make $380 a day.
To me treat everyone the same.
they bust some peoples chops and let others make a killing.
panhandling

 

[Mistral]

The beggars seem to be all over. Certainly downtown. A few seem to live in some storefronts. They walk through the metro too even in the trains. Some are quiet, some come across loud and entitled, and the rare one is some young guy rocking back and forth and crying.

I travel a lot, I think Montreal is the worst for this. It brings down the quality of the city. They collect enough taxes, the city should take them off the street and get them some help (if they need help).

 

[C.B. Brown]

i agree 100% and even the police say these people need special help.The worst are the ones who go car to car on the metro announce them self like a bank robber does and proceed to get in every ones face like they are entitled to do so.
saw a metro driver actually do his job when a train was stopped he checked car to car found a bag of shit like this told him to leaev and in french the guy started to yell and cure ''mon douverage esti'' its my work f--k
and these transit cops who could not make it as a real cop are usually all busy on their cell phones getting paid a descent wage to prevent this harrasment of people who pay to travel not to have to encounter this bs but like most civil servants don't seem to give a shit.

 

[Johnny Walker]

There is a mean beggar in Ville D'Anjou. She hangs around in front of the A&W on Jean Talon East near the Brault and Martineau store across the street from the shopping center with the Scores and Super C stores. She has dark skin, I suspect she is a Gypsy. She hobbles around on crutches because she has one leg. I have eaten my lunch in my car at the A&W several times this summer and by the looks of things she does quite well. All her donations she receives are bills. There is a traffic light at the entrance to the shopping center. I have seen her collect 4 or 5 donations per traffic light cycle. She does have only one leg, so she plays the sympathy card to the max. On one occasion she was headed into the A&W and I held the door open for her and she cursed me out. She is really a mean angry person unless you give her money.

You horned in on her act when you opened the door for her. I have seen this woman at that place. She hobbles in at lunch time and takes her time to get through the door. She uses the washrooms and then takes her time to hobble out. This is her show she does to the people at the A&W. When they leave they have to pass through the only entry/exit of the parking lot. She will be standing there asking for hand outs. Her donations are much better when she does the "show".

 

[C.B. Brown]

Well this lady was making a minimum $300 a day
she surely looked like she didn't miss a meal it would be easier to jump over he than run around her
since some escorts seem to be crying the blues i recently read a escort was complaining she lost $4,000 in cancalations
maybe if some escorts are not elidgable for welfare or UIC in this corona crisis they can join those at atwater.

 

[Ichiro Honda]

I have seen a woman in my neighborhood for the last 30+ years. She would stand outside grocery stores or pharmacies and beg for money. She does not look homeless. I even seen her once with her 16 year old daughter begging. The daughter was the goth type. ( this was years ago ) she was not into it and seemed embarrassed. I only seen the mother daughter pair once, maybe the daughter went off on her own franchise.