Paris attacks

[Robert 21]

Paris Attacks

Our Prayers go out.....

 

[Melyssa]

C'est incroyable, nos pensées sont avec les parisiens et leurs proches.

 

[iSpartacus]

Life is nothing to them. All these terrorists care about is publicity, recruitment, martyrdom.

My heart and payers go out to the people of Paris.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I just heard that there were at least 100 killed at the concert venue (Le Patatlan) alone.

 

[themonk83]

crazy will always be crazy. there's no sensible way to stop it without stooping to their level. trying to reason doesn't work. is humanity ready for WW3? sometimes, in order to be stronger, you have to destroy. violence is never the answer but enough is enough and i think we're there. just have to embrace it

 

[2458p]

When we eliminate the threat
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Easier said than done, sadly. It's a very complex issue. As long as religion exist then there will be violence. Sad but true.

Religion = man's biggest mistake.

 

[Melyssa]

And we're next if we let the "refugee ruse" go through.

Deployment tactics...remember that term people.

Je pense que ce n'est pas le moment.

 

[iSpartacus]

Eliminate the threat is the only option.

HOW? Please explain. How do you read everyones mind and motivations. How do you control their opportunities? Ban the Syrians? What next? Police state?

It's a terrible fact of life. There are always those like this. Reasons change. Some will always hate. Religion, politics, always something.

We can fight it. Win often. Not always.

 

[2458p]

How?

Military tactics....isolate and destroy.

Keep them the fuck out of our country to begin with...like Putin is doing.

I respect your view/opinion but I don't think you understand how complex the situation is. It's more complicated than "keep the bad guys away".

 

[sweetjohn]

Sunni islam is the problem, Saudi sponsored terrorism groups are always behind these foreign terrorist attacks.
Shiite groups like the hezbollah focus on blowing israel up not foreign countries like france.

 

[minutemenX]

Sunni islam is the problem, Saudi sponsored terrorism groups are always behind these foreign terrorist attacks.
Shiite groups like the hezbollah focus on blowing israel up not foreign countries like france.

So it’s OK as soon as they are killing only Jews ? Thus welcome back to Nazis… next is your turn…

 

[themonk83]

20+ years in special operations...I know exactly how simple it is. The problem is our limp-dicked "leaders" don't listen to the guys on the ground who go toe to toe with these assholes.

but then, a new cell will pop up and the same thing will happen again. its a vicious cycle. change needs to come from within. until countries who house those terrorist cells stand up and say enough is enough, killing will only breed hatred. we'll buy a couple of years of "peace" until the next thing.

its a very complex situation because humanity ultimately needs to change. we need to all stand up together

 

[CaptRenault]

And Obama still can't bring himself to use the phrase "Islamic Terrorism." Justin Trudeau is equally naive.

What ISIS Really Wants
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.
theatlantic.com
March 2015

What is the Islamic State?

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors...

...The Islamic State, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), follows a distinctive variety of Islam whose beliefs about the path to the Day of Judgment matter to its strategy, and can help the West know its enemy and predict its behavior. Its rise to power is less like the triumph of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (a group whose leaders the Islamic State considers apostates) than like the realization of a dystopian alternate reality in which David Koresh or Jim Jones survived to wield absolute power over not just a few hundred people, but some 8 million...

...The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.

Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, “the Prophetic methodology,” which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail. Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do. But pretending that it isn’t actually a religious, millenarian group, with theology that must be understood to be combatted, has already led the United States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it. We’ll need to get acquainted with the Islamic State’s intellectual genealogy if we are to react in a way that will not strengthen it, but instead help it self-immolate in its own excessive zeal...

 

[marc7]

Zero threat does not exist ! The Syrian emigration to Germany is a good example!! They opened theyre arms knowing that one day it could go wrong!!! The problem inside of the Muslim world is the lack of balls to denounce the atrocities of martyrdom!!! So it's not about religion when you talk about land like Syria or Isis .. It's land and money. What I would love to see its a word of Saudi Arabia and Iran condemning any form of terrorism.

And tomorrow we shall walk without fear because any , any terrorist as ever changed the course of a country. They're so dumb or nobody ever told them that they're sacrificing theyre life for nothing.
Paris as survived many conquerant but it's still and ever be one of the most beautiful city's I ever visited !!

 

[Man911]

Since mankind exist there are war. It not tomorrow we will have peace. Even in 5000 year, there still have war.

 

[Robert 21]

Saw this on CNN this a.m.

Heard some noises and ran into a small room for 3 hours until the Policeman came.
The Police told us not to look around, there was a bloody mess.
How do you feel that Paris has been attacked again and how do you feel yourself?
I think I'm still in shock.
When you left that room, what kind of feelings did you have?
We tried during 3 hours not to make any noise which was very difficult because we could hear the sound of the machine guns like we were very close like the walls were shaking. That made some girls very scared. We tried to make them calm down.
How many were you?
We were like 15 people inside the small little room. There was water going down.
Maybe something had broken down. We were in the dark.
We waited for the Police Officer to come.

Wondering, would you Run, Shelter in Place, or Fight?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Another dark day for Islam. The recent attacks reflect very badly on all muslims all over the world, even though 99% of them had nothing to do with the attacks. But the attacks were made in their name, even though the #1 killer of muslims are muslims themselves. What has the world come to?

 

[hungry101]

Another dark day for Islam. The recent attacks reflect very badly on all muslims all over the world, even though 99% of them had nothing to do with the attacks. But the attacks were made in their name, even though the #1 killer of muslims are muslims themselves. What has the world come to?

And our president called Isis the JV team and as much created them when he pulled the troops of of Iraq. And now he wants to close Gitmo? He already traded 5 of the worst of the worst for a deserter...close Gitmo after you put all housed inside to death.

Should NA take in refugees? Hell no.

So much for that "peaceful" religion.

 

[cloudsurf]

Our new Liberal defense minister claims that we have nothing to fear from ISIS....as if Toronto or Montreal is better prepared for a terrorist attack than Paris was.
Complacency by our government is a dangerous scenario.

ISIS now operates openly in a half dozen countries in Asia and Africa.....and probably has sleeper cells in dozens more.

 

[themonk83]

I personally think that keeping our own citizens safe, along with our way of life, should be priority one.

It would not be a pleasant undertaking...but what is your life, the lives of your family members and your freedom worth?

we live on a continent surrounded by a whole lot of water. they'd have to cross over to do anything. what should we do? bump up security, have stricter screening and so. we don't have to go to war, we can prepare and be on the ready but there's no need for Canada to get involved into something that is not theirs.

its the involvement of the West into conflicts that they should stay out of that breeds this sentiment of hatred which led to a whole lot of crap.

anyway, until the Middle East stand up and fully denounce and decide once and for all to eradicate this problem will the world be safer. until then, anything we do will just lead to more crap