Once again i ask the question: What exactly does PK Subban bring to this team? And they're paying him $9 million a year for another 7 years? Are you f####. kidding me?
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I referred to him recently as Turner Stevenson 2.0.
My sincere apologies to Mr. Stevenson.
Boyzzzz!
So far the Canadians are 1-3 in the first four games of the schedule I listed with the next stop versus a very tough Nashville team in Music City. 1-4 is a very distinct possibility.
So far the Canadians are 1-3 in the first four games of the schedule I listed with the next stop versus a very tough Nashville team in Music City. 1-4 is a very distinct possibility.
Some good quotes from a habby fans board below, hey Doc, are you trolling under several different names on that habbys board? Sounds just like everything you have been saying lol
Montreal has now lost 11 games and the Toronto Maple Leafs who are in 29th place overall have only lost 13...its a thin line between top and bottom...we have to get back on the winning track FAST
What are the odds of Stamkos coming to Montreal! What do we need to trade to make it happen? Let's do it now!
daniel carr and paul biron are our offense.......i am so sick of this crap......
well the difference to an untrained eye is thet the leaf at least work hard and are in the games....look at the crap the flying frenchmen have dished out to us the last 10 games
I'm starting to realize I'll be dead by the time the Habs win another Cup
galchenyuk?????......he done almost nothing this year
Montreal has now lost 11 games and the Toronto Maple Leafs who are in 29th place overall have only lost 13...its a thin line between top and bottom...we have to get back on the winning track FAST
What are the odds of Stamkos coming to Montreal! What do we need to trade to make it happen? Let's do it now!
daniel carr and paul biron are our offense.......i am so sick of this crap......
well the difference to an untrained eye is thet the leaf at least work hard and are in the games....look at the crap the flying frenchmen have dished out to us the last 10 games
I'm starting to realize I'll be dead by the time the Habs win another Cup
galchenyuk?????......he done almost nothing this year
As the Doc sees it......
Subban seems to have become obsessed with looking good in the media, endorsements and other off-ice activities. His focus isn't on hockey as much as it should, and it's affecting his play on the ice. Is he worth $9 million a year? He's not even worth $6 million a year. He'll have to get his head out of his ass or else Bergevin will get him a one-way ticket out of town by next season!
Pacioretty isn't reacting well to the captaincy. Simply put, he's not producing. When your scorers are named Carr & Byron, there's a big problem. And last night when he started his post-game media conference by blurting out the f-word, he seemed to be in near-meltdown mode. And as a prominent member of the Mtl media mentionned last night, where are those players who insisted earlier in the season that the habs are not a one-man team? That there is more to the habs' success than simply Carey Price? They seemed to have all disappeared.
Alex Galchenyuk is starting to look like one of many high first-round pick busts. He's very arrogant and isn't too well liked on the team (according to my insiders). He got his wish and was given the center position. It hasn't worked. And let's face it: he's not a playmaker. He'd be better suited to play on the wing. He's a good skater, has good balance, is strong on his skates.....but those are the qualities of a figure skater. His hockey sense and vision on the ice seems to be missing. His family was too involved in his recent contractual talks (according to his former agent who was fired by the family) and he has one more year left to go on his recent deal. He wasn't happy to sign the current one, but finally realized that the habs held all the cards. But the next negotiations may prove to be even tougher if he doesn't start producing like a top 3 overall pick is expected to perform. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if he gets traded this season.
Steven Stamkos. Habs fans drool at the thought of Stamkos ever joining the habs. He'd finally be the #1 center they've been seeking for years. But how could they pay him the money he'll get once he goes free? PK Subban alone takes up a big chunk of the salary cap and he'll have 7 more years left. Petry has 5 years left to go. Markov and Emelin have another season left to go after this one. Max Pacioretty will be UFA in just over 3 years and will expect a considerable raise if he starts producing like everyone expects him to. Carey Price will be UFA in just over 2 years and he'll be paid considerably more than his current $6.5 million cap amount. Let's face it, if he regains his pre-knee problems form, he'll break the bank.
The low Canadian dollar isn't helping things since Canadian teams pay their players in US currency. It also means that the cap won't be climbing as much as expected. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually goes down.
So i ask the question? How will they be able to pay Stamkos, who will be getting paid 20% of the team's cap? Or course, it's possible if they start shipping out expensive contracts. But other teams have cap issues also and trading those players won't be as easy as it seems. And does Stamkos really want to supplant his family and move it to french Canada? Everyone knows that his #1 choice of destination is Toronto, Ontario, Canada......his hometown.
And here's is the question of the day: "Should the habs be willing to trade top goalie prospect Zach Fucale in order to attract a true top-6 forward?" The reason i'm asking this question is because of Carey Price's history of knee problems. And the fact he's being overused by his coach season after season isn't helping matters. His body is starting to take a toll. How long will he be able to go? And if they trade Fucale, who'll step in to take over once Carey Price is no longer as dominating, yet will be paid top dollars??
Subban seems to have become obsessed with looking good in the media, endorsements and other off-ice activities. His focus isn't on hockey as much as it should, and it's affecting his play on the ice. Is he worth $9 million a year? He's not even worth $6 million a year. He'll have to get his head out of his ass or else Bergevin will get him a one-way ticket out of town by next season!
Pacioretty isn't reacting well to the captaincy. Simply put, he's not producing. When your scorers are named Carr & Byron, there's a big problem. And last night when he started his post-game media conference by blurting out the f-word, he seemed to be in near-meltdown mode. And as a prominent member of the Mtl media mentionned last night, where are those players who insisted earlier in the season that the habs are not a one-man team? That there is more to the habs' success than simply Carey Price? They seemed to have all disappeared.
Alex Galchenyuk is starting to look like one of many high first-round pick busts. He's very arrogant and isn't too well liked on the team (according to my insiders). He got his wish and was given the center position. It hasn't worked. And let's face it: he's not a playmaker. He'd be better suited to play on the wing. He's a good skater, has good balance, is strong on his skates.....but those are the qualities of a figure skater. His hockey sense and vision on the ice seems to be missing. His family was too involved in his recent contractual talks (according to his former agent who was fired by the family) and he has one more year left to go on his recent deal. He wasn't happy to sign the current one, but finally realized that the habs held all the cards. But the next negotiations may prove to be even tougher if he doesn't start producing like a top 3 overall pick is expected to perform. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if he gets traded this season.
Steven Stamkos. Habs fans drool at the thought of Stamkos ever joining the habs. He'd finally be the #1 center they've been seeking for years. But how could they pay him the money he'll get once he goes free? PK Subban alone takes up a big chunk of the salary cap and he'll have 7 more years left. Petry has 5 years left to go. Markov and Emelin have another season left to go after this one. Max Pacioretty will be UFA in just over 3 years and will expect a considerable raise if he starts producing like everyone expects him to. Carey Price will be UFA in just over 2 years and he'll be paid considerably more than his current $6.5 million cap amount. Let's face it, if he regains his pre-knee problems form, he'll break the bank.
The low Canadian dollar isn't helping things since Canadian teams pay their players in US currency. It also means that the cap won't be climbing as much as expected. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually goes down.
So i ask the question? How will they be able to pay Stamkos, who will be getting paid 20% of the team's cap? Or course, it's possible if they start shipping out expensive contracts. But other teams have cap issues also and trading those players won't be as easy as it seems. And does Stamkos really want to supplant his family and move it to french Canada? Everyone knows that his #1 choice of destination is Toronto, Ontario, Canada......his hometown.
And here's is the question of the day: "Should the habs be willing to trade top goalie prospect Zach Fucale in order to attract a true top-6 forward?" The reason i'm asking this question is because of Carey Price's history of knee problems. And the fact he's being overused by his coach season after season isn't helping matters. His body is starting to take a toll. How long will he be able to go? And if they trade Fucale, who'll step in to take over once Carey Price is no longer as dominating, yet will be paid top dollars??
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The Habs want to win now, they know their window to win a cup will be closing soon. It's this year or next year, then the window of opportunity will be closing. I would like them to reach out to the Blue Jackets and try to get Ryan Johansson. Chucky for Johansson. They Montreal can't afford to trade any of their top prospects because there aren't to many left. Stamkos will make more then P.K. Next year, will that hurt the team who signs him? The short answer is no. Good players make big money. We will see what happens at the trade deadline. Sure Habs will make a move.
Bergervin is being absolutely blasted on habby forums for not being able to make a big trade and seems content with the minor trades. Vanek was sort of a splash but he tanked in the playoffs if i remember correctly. Not all Bergys fault tho (btw Bergervin is the other guy i like from that team, besides Price) because it is not easy in todays NHL to make a impact trade and bring in a superstar. Jim Nill could show Bergy a thing or two, then again that was more Peter Chirelli being a horrible gm in trading away a stud superstar for spare parts. Peter C in a way is getting what he deserves, having to spend his winters in Edmonton lol...What's worse? Winter in the 'Peg maybe?
I totally agree, Iggy. But let's be honest: Vanek fell on Bergevin's lap at the last minute of the trade deadline. The Islanders had made a deal with Toronto for Vanek. But Toronto was unable to move out a body at the last minute in order to fit Vanek under their cap. So with only a few minutes left to go before the deadline, the Isles had no choice but to accept Mtl's last minute offer since they would have been stuck with Vanek and get nothing in return. Bergevin was extremely lucky to land him and it was due to factors beyond his control.
But i'm giving him a pass for Subban's signing to that ridiculously big contract. He was willing to wait him out when negotiations fell through. He was willing to go to arbitration. But Geoff Molson stepped in at the last minute and forced Bergevin's hand. He ordered him to re-sign Subban at all costs! He ordered him! Bergevin had no choice in the matter other than resign, so he re-signed Subban to a contract he never would have given him had it been his choice.
I give Bergevin credit in using his charm and savvy in signing some of his players (ex-Gallagher) to moderate contracts. He saved the organization money by doing so. He's also a very good evaluator of talent. He hit a double with the Dale Wiese trade. He hit a single with the Paul Byron trade. I'd say he hit a double with the Jeff Petry trade and then signing him.
But i'm giving him a pass for Subban's signing to that ridiculously big contract. He was willing to wait him out when negotiations fell through. He was willing to go to arbitration. But Geoff Molson stepped in at the last minute and forced Bergevin's hand. He ordered him to re-sign Subban at all costs! He ordered him! Bergevin had no choice in the matter other than resign, so he re-signed Subban to a contract he never would have given him had it been his choice.
I give Bergevin credit in using his charm and savvy in signing some of his players (ex-Gallagher) to moderate contracts. He saved the organization money by doing so. He's also a very good evaluator of talent. He hit a double with the Dale Wiese trade. He hit a single with the Paul Byron trade. I'd say he hit a double with the Jeff Petry trade and then signing him.
Power rankings just came out earlier today, Wash #1, Boston #2
Pens, get this.........#30!
Montreal once #1, now falling falling falling.......to #17 :lol:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings/_/season/2016/week/11
Pens, get this.........#30!
Montreal once #1, now falling falling falling.......to #17 :lol:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings/_/season/2016/week/11
Montreal's last 10 games:
2 Wins 8 Losses
Goals for 16
Goals against 31
The Montreal Canadians have 12 losses on the season, the Leafs have 13
Joe.t, no need to plan a day off from work just yet for that little parade you were prediciting next June :lol:
2 Wins 8 Losses
Goals for 16
Goals against 31
The Montreal Canadians have 12 losses on the season, the Leafs have 13
Joe.t, no need to plan a day off from work just yet for that little parade you were prediciting next June :lol:
Spot on once again... 1-4 so far on that 9 game streak of games that could make for a quite impressive free fall down the eastern conference standings and with a game against a tough Minnesota team later tonight, in Minny, the vaunted 2015/2016 Candians could easily be 1-5 on this stretch of games.
Oh yea, the Leafs won again and since November 1 are on pace for a near 100 point season had it started Nov 1. Too bad we can't call October preseason lol.... Like i said it would take at least 20 games before they learnt Babocks system. I still do not expect the playoffs but ya never know.
GLG!
The Leafs have been extremely impressive and that's including in many of their losses. The playoffs would be nice, but i must admit i may be disappointed if it happpened this season. I'm willing to be patient for this team to be great again. But Mr. Babcock has this team playing way too well. I have a feeling Mr. Nylander and possibly a couple of other players may get called up next month or so to give them a taste of life in the big show!
Hopefully the only way Nylander gets a call up this season is because of many departing players at the trade deadline later in the winter. Leave him down in the super competitive and best minor hockey league program there is, the AHL. Let him lead the Marlies to a Calder Cup run and then he can say goodbye to the AHL forever as no doubt he will be a Leaf out of training camp next season. This guy has superstar written all over him and his little brother Alexander might not be too far behind.
Mix in Nylander, Marner, Leivo, Leipsic, Percy, Loov and maybe one or two other Marlies (hopefully Connor Brown but he has been injured all season) with the Leafs that will still be here next season and you have a very dangerous team in 2016/2017, playing Bab's system.
Not sure Marner will be ready for the NHL though next season, it really is NOT the Babcock way so he may need a year in the AHL first.
Mix in Nylander, Marner, Leivo, Leipsic, Percy, Loov and maybe one or two other Marlies (hopefully Connor Brown but he has been injured all season) with the Leafs that will still be here next season and you have a very dangerous team in 2016/2017, playing Bab's system.
Not sure Marner will be ready for the NHL though next season, it really is NOT the Babcock way so he may need a year in the AHL first.
Some Oiler bashing..... fuck what a sad sack crap team. The only bright side of this is that besides LA the rest of the devision sucks and we may still have a good chance for a playoff spot.
I agree with your assessement. However, he's not eligible to play in the AHL next season. It's either back to junior or to the NHL.
Minnesota 2 Montreal 1......1-5 in the first SIX games of that Nine game run that i said would be a very tough stretch for a fragile minded Canadians team.
Word has it that Carey Price is out until January 25 at the MINIMUM.
Word has it that Carey Price is out until January 25 at the MINIMUM.
You are totally correct and i knew that but forgot. Marner will likely make the Leafs then. He will learn nothing playing another year in the "O" and it would set him back in his developement.
What's ironic is that goaltending hasn't been the problem. It's a total lack of scoring. They have averaged less than 2 goals a game over the past dozen games. The only players who score are no-names they called up from the minors. Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Desharnais, Plekanec, Subban, Markov and Eller haven't done anything. And the mob is calling for Marc Bergevin to make a deal now. But other teams aren't stupid. The last thing they want to do is to help out the habs unless the return is considerable and advantageous to them.
And if the problem is indeed Brendan Gallagher's absence, then he's become an untouchable on this sad-sack team and they're going nowhere, even with Carey Price.
Michel Therrien should get on his knees every night and pray God that he happens to be coaching a team led by Carey Price. Lately Therrien hasn't shown anyone that he's worthy to coach in the NHL. A true NHL coach in his position would be more creative and innovative at this time. Simply switching lines and benching players (by the way, why is Andrigetto getting benched when he's currently their top offensive player?) simply doesn't cut it.
I agree. But i hope he won't spend the season in the press box if it happens. He needs to play and the Leafs must capitalize on that year of control they'll be losing.
I have to say thanks indeed for saving that post for posterity, much much appreciated!
Ok lets have a looksie at that nine game stretch that I said was going to be tough for the hab-nots considering the "Psyche of the Mtl Canadians" right now what with All World Goalie and the only likable habby on the team, Carey Price, out of action for some time.
So far the Canadians are not doing very well (as predicted by yours truly) Ottawa-win, San Jose-LOSS, Los Angeles-LOSS, Dallas-LOSS, Nashville-LOSS, Minnesota-LOSS and Washington-LOSS!.... that folks = a fantastic won-loss record of 1-6 with SIX Straight losses. 2 more losses to go in the sunshine state, err i mean 2 more GAMES to go :lol:
Btw, i know one super sexy hot Montreal Blonde who was very happy tonight down in DC For her I say:
GO CAPS GO!
Ok lets have a looksie at that nine game stretch that I said was going to be tough for the hab-nots considering the "Psyche of the Mtl Canadians" right now what with All World Goalie and the only likable habby on the team, Carey Price, out of action for some time.
So far the Canadians are not doing very well (as predicted by yours truly) Ottawa-win, San Jose-LOSS, Los Angeles-LOSS, Dallas-LOSS, Nashville-LOSS, Minnesota-LOSS and Washington-LOSS!.... that folks = a fantastic won-loss record of 1-6 with SIX Straight losses. 2 more losses to go in the sunshine state, err i mean 2 more GAMES to go :lol:
Btw, i know one super sexy hot Montreal Blonde who was very happy tonight down in DC
For her I say:GO CAPS GO!
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