PUA Community: Myth or reality?

[Fradi]

Curly,

I have to give it to you that at least you are explaining what you are doing in a much different way.
Everybody learns to some extent, always, some from parents, friends, failures, women, life is always a learning experience there is no denying that. Some get better at it and have an advantage by being born with good looks others will have a hard time all their life.
People who have travelled a lot and have been in contact with different cultures get a whole new perspective on how to approach a women from that part of the world.

My problem lies with guys who are full of themselves and whole heartedly believe that this is a gimmick and there are specific lines and things to practice that can turn anybody into a PUA. I guarantee you most women will simply cringe even at the mention of this name and anybody that openly claims to be one they will laugh at and ignore. Perhaps the vomit emoji by Anna is an indication.
How many introduce themselves as a PUA to a woman, shouldn’t be a problem should it , why shy away from the truth be proud of it lol.

 

[Blackjackmac]

How many introduce themselves as a PUA to a woman, shouldn’t be a problem should it , why shy away from the truth be proud of it lol.

If you know anything about women you should know they abhor being vulgar and blunt

Do you approach women with: ''Hi, do you want to fuck?'' Shouldn't be a problem should it?

When you have sex for the first time with a woman and she asks you how come you are so good at eating pussy, do you answer: ''I have been seeng escorts regularly for the past 3 years so I had alot of practice'' ? Why shy away from the truth be proud of it.

PUA lesson (free of charge):

When you approach a girl she will sometimes ask: ''Do you always stop girls like this and ask for their number?''

You don't answer: ''I am a PUA trying to get laid as much as possible''

''Yes, you are the 3245th girl I have stopped this morning'' You say with a cheeky smile, ''my legs are killing me, lets go sit down for coffee''
She knows exactly what kind of guy you are without you being blunt and vulgar

 

[Fradi]

I have trouble seeing SPs that are that age without feeling like a creepy old man but to each his own

So first you call me gods gift to women and now a creepy old man.
I hope this is not the kind of gifted communication skills PUA taught you to have with women.
I only need to look at Anna’s first knee jerk reaction to this subject which was a vomit emoji and I believe most women would react to this topic that way.

Now if this works for you great I don’t begrudge pussy to anyone it is a life necessity to a man, no matter how he goes about obtaining it if it is given willingly, I am sure we can agree on that, as far as PUA, no for me it will remain total BS.

 

[Fradi]

If you know anything about women you should know they abhor being vulgar and blunt

Do you approach women with: ''Hi, do you want to fuck?'' Shouldn't be a problem should it?

When you have sex for the first time with a woman and she asks you how come you are so good at eating pussy, do you answer: ''I have been seeng escorts regularly for the past 3 years so I had alot of practice'' ? Why shy away from the truth be proud of it.

PUA lesson (free of charge):

When you approach a girl she will sometimes ask: ''Do you always stop girls like this and ask for their number?''

You don't answer: ''I am a PUA trying to get laid as much as possible''

''Yes, you are the 3245th girl I have stopped this morning'' You say with a cheeky smile, ''my legs are killing me, lets go sit down for coffee''
She knows exactly what kind of guy you are without you being blunt and vulgar

Saying you are a PUA is vulgar, you seem to be having no problem saying it here.

Actually some of these things happened, one in reverse though.
When one of the SP opened the door she was drop dead gorgeous and I guess I was mesmerized and was starring a bit too long, she broke the ice by saying don’t just look at me don’t you want to come in and fuck. A memorable lady in more ways than one.

Yes there was one that complemented me on my pussy eating ability which I firmly believe to be the truth as they would never lie to me. I just replied that you can thank so and so she has been teaching me for the last three years, which is entirely true.
I know what lessons are worth learning.

Your free lessons, nah I will pass thanks.

 

[Blackjackmac]

So first you call me gods gift to women and now a creepy old man.
I hope this is not the kind of gifted communication skills PUA taught you to have with women.
I only need to look at Anna’s first knee jerk reaction to this subject which was a vomit emoji and I believe most women would react to this topic that way.

Now if this works for you great I don’t begrudge pussy to anyone it is a life necessity to a man, no matter how he goes about obtaining it if it is given willingly, I am sure we can agree on that, as far as PUA, no for me it will remain total BS.

Hmmm not sure where you read that I called you creepy old man. I was referring to how I felt when I meet an SP that I feel is too young. Is it because I have a 15 year old daughter and maybe it hits too close to home? Whatever the reason its just my own hangups man you have to stop thinking everyone is after you. Remember, I did say to each his own my friend, you do you and I'll do me.

 

[Blackjackmac]

Actually some of these things happened, one in reverse though.
When one of the SP opened the door she was drop dead gorgeous and I guess I was mesmerized and was starring a bit too long, she broke the ice by saying don’t just look at me don’t you want to come in and fuck. A memorable lady in more ways than one.

Yes there was one that complemented me on my pussy eating ability which I firmly believe to be the truth as they would never lie to me. I just replied that you can thank so and so she has been teaching me for the last three years, which is entirely true.
I know what lessons are worth learning.

Your free lessons, nah I will pass thanks.

Sure.. Paid SPs tell you to come and fuck them and then tell you you are good in bed and that somehow invalidates my tried and true principles anchored in reality? Keep living the dream bro

 

[curly]

''Yes, you are the 3245th girl I have stopped this morning'' You say with a cheeky smile, ''my legs are killing me, lets go sit down for coffee''
She knows exactly what kind of guy you are without you being blunt and vulgar

LMAO! Good one!

 

[Fradi]

Sure.. Paid SPs tell you to come and fuck them and then tell you you are good in bed and that somehow invalidates my tried and true principles anchored in reality? Keep living the dream bro

Your reality, funny how people always think their reality is the real thing.
Openly ask women what they think of PUA, please put it in of these threads and have only women answer it and see what you get, then we will find out who is dreaming.

Btw I am offended, you don’t believe SP who are experts in their field about my pussy eating abilities, they would never lie just ask them, but I am supposed to applaud and accept your magnificent skills all because you say so.

 

[Blackjackmac]

Btw I am offended, you don’t believe SP who are experts in their field about my pussy eating abilities, they would never lie just ask them, but I am supposed to applaud and accept your magnificent skills all because you say so.

Oh don’t be daft. Surely you must take with a grain of salt any compliment coming from one who you are paying for the fantasy. It didn’t mean they are lying to you always but the incentive is there. Why are you offended by this? It’s just common sense.

Once again (for the millionth time) I don’t have any superpowers or « magnificen skills ». I do however test my ideas in the real world with normal women and when I do indulge in hobbying, I recognize it for the fantasy world it is.

 

[Fradi]

For crying out loud for someone claiming to be a PUA you really don’t seem to have a sense of humour or understand sarcasm at all.
You can’t see when someone is pulling your leg, you really think I am that daft that I would believe an SP telling me how great I was is anything more than a ploy to get me to see her again.
You really believe that I am offended lol, I have a much thicker skin than that.

Life experience is something they don’t teach you lol.
Yes, you convinced me I agree you certainly don’t have super powers.

 

[Blackjackmac]

Yes, you convinced me I agree you certainly don’t have super powers.

See? I told you

 

[Numerati]

 

[TheQuestion]

Is PUA really a good expenditure of time?

I get what Curly is saying that an occasional analysis of how a person can come across to others is a useful examination that can be beneficial.

And I certainly appreciate Fradi’s point that many lifetime benefits can come from marriage and family, especially if a guy is “family-oriented”.

And there is some obvious overlap between those two points, to the extent that the message from a PUA instruction constitutes a life improvement for someone actively seeking marriage (although that has limits in the modern world where courtship happens online).

But did TheQuestion actually just say a Hostel?

Jesus Christ. A hostel.

There was a poster who eventually got permanently banned who always talked about how you could get laid if you went to Europe and spent a lot of time hanging out with poor women. There is likely some truth to that, just as it was relatively easy to get laid long ago as a college freshman in the freshman dorms when the women were trapped there with lots of time, and few outlets or resources.

And Fradi‘s mention of the stud who is now something of a late-life mess is food for thought. I can think of a lot of guys who focused on sports in high school and partying in college who did not achieve a lifetime of success, either in terms of money or sex. They peaked higher than other guys at the time, but they should have added more balance to their lives. Sometimes they focused too much on the things that got them girls at the time. And guess what, the girls moved on. Pretty girls are often heartless.

All guys want a somewhat steady stream of pussy from age 16 until death (which likely occurs during their 80s). That is a lot of pussy to plan for. And it likely requires a lot of money.

I am not intending to be judgmental. I am just asking the obvious question. Is hanging out and investing the time required to get “free” pussy in your 20s and 30s really a better expenditure of time than furthering one’s education, career, and simple hours worked? It seems that the ability to do pick-ups is largely age restricted and the hunting grounds would not bring one into contact with the upper echelons of society. Is it really worth the time and effort, outside of doing so to possibly meet a marriage candidate, if the guy is seeking marriage and family.

Haha, yes. I think some guys will go to great lengths to get laid and met a bunch of PUA's running "hostel game." On the positive side though there's a few open minded travelers who are down to chill.

 

[curly]

TheQuestion, my favorite has always been day game. Girls have their fences much lower than clubbing. You can get a variety of women, not only the half-drunk 18something and as a bonus, you can actually hear what each other is saying!

My version of easy medium and hard game is more related to age than to location.

Hard: women 18- 22, always hit on, very high fences, raise them higher as soon as you are older!

Medium: women 28 - 35, much more mature, some of them having been through a relationship already, some of them in an unhappy relationship. They will still test you but barriers are much lower, and sex is much less of a big deal for them.

Easy: Young mothers and women above 40. They frequently have low self esteem, are hit on much less, appreciate your attention, will actually enjoy flirting and playing the game with you and will reciprocate. Once you're in, they don't make a big deal of sex, it is often an expectation! I found this group very satisfying, they know what they want, they are mature in their expectations of relationships, are much less of a drama queen, don't make a big deal of a casual sex relationship (sometimes that's what they want!) and much more experienced and skilled lovers. If you find an attractive woman in this group, go for it, you're in for fun!

 

[TheQuestion]

TheQuestion, my favorite has always been day game. Girls have their fences much lower than clubbing. You can get a variety of women, not only the half-drunk 18something and as a bonus, you can actually hear what each other is saying!

My version of easy medium and hard game is more related to age than to location.

Hard: women 18- 22, always hit on, very high fences, raise them higher as soon as you are older!

Medium: women 28 - 35, much more mature, some of them having been through a relationship already, some of them in an unhappy relationship. They will still test you but barriers are much lower, and sex is much less of a big deal for them.

Easy: Young mothers and women above 40. They frequently have low self esteem, are hit on much less, appreciate your attention, will actually enjoy flirting and playing the game with you and will reciprocate. Once you're in, they don't make a big deal of sex, it is often an expectation! I found this group very satisfying, they know what they want, they are mature in their expectations of relationships, are much less of a drama queen, don't make a big deal of a casual sex relationship (sometimes that's what they want!) and much more experienced and skilled lovers. If you find an attractive woman in this group, go for it, you're in for fun!

Curly, excellent post. It's great hearing from a fellow PUA. I'll be honest it is likely I'm younger than many guys here, so I haven't dated many of the age groups you've mentioned. It's just that I've been doing PUA for a long time since college, so it's become a lifestyle.

I used to go to the park every day; however, I noticed that most of the girls(22+) who paid attention to me were usually from hostels, young travelers. Hence, I started to go straight to hostels to run game there. For instance, I remember going to a hostel, meeting a German tourist, and then eating pizza nearby. Hence, I stopped doing Daygame altogether.

By the way, have you ever tried Geomaxxing? I'm assuming you are from Toronto or Montreal. I've met some Canadian PUA's and PUA coaches, and most of them would travel a lot and go to countries like Colombia or Poland to find GF's. I think a guy like you could do well since you seem to know PUA quite well.

 

[curly]

One of the things people overlook is also that game is fun. For you and for the girl. You may not close every time, but each time you're having fun, meeting different people and learning about them.

Now that I feel confortable doing it, it's actually a fun activity for the extravert that I am now.

And yes, agree that age opens you to a wider variety of women. That also is fun.

When you hobby, you skip all of this. So if it's sex that you want its a good thing to do. And I've done it my fair share! But for fun meeting ladies and having a good time, game is good for me.

 

[curly]

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[Numerati]

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