I know exactly which review you are referring to, but people called it out and I think even without SPs having access to their own reviews comments like that should/would have been removed by the admins.
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Actually some SPs can be a life defining moment. You for example have been seeing your two ATFs for years, right?
To continue your analogy, it’s fine to not meet Snow White but the evil queen. But if it’s one of the 7 dwarfs instead that becomes a bit more problematic.
I think it's true that women are cruel to each other, but we grew up in a culture that only values us for our looks and pit us against each other. I do find it very sad that this happens, tho.
I don't think saying that attractiveness is a social construct is meant to make women feel better about themselves, it just is the case. What was attractive 15 years ago isn't the same thing now. What women find attractive in men is also a social construct. I also think that some clients genuinely love the SP's they are seeing, and even if they aren't ''super models'', they truly find them beautiful. Maybe you think someone is chubby and unattractive, but another person will find the same lady curvy and sexy, everyone has different tastes and standards.
I'm not personally responding to this thread because I'm insecure btw, I know I look like my photos and what you see is what you get, but what I'm hearing is that some of you are annoyed that us SP's advertise here and participate in the forum, and to an extent I understand why, because you feel like there is less honesty in the reviews.
Personally if I get a negative comment I will try to reflect on if I did something wrong and how I can change my behaviour, but an experience between a SP and a client is really subjective and depends on many things. It's only natural that your experience is going to be different from what you saw in the reviews, because everyone has a different personality and things happen organically. I think looking at reviews for safety is a perfectly good reason to check the forum.
As for refuting bad reviews, I do think that some people get a kick out of writing negative things about women's bodies and about SP's in particular. There's a way to word things, and I can tell when someone just wanted to make the person feel bad or just insult the person, vs actual criticism. I think people can encourage each other to be cruel to someone or a group of people in a certain setting, and the opposite can happen as well. Yep reviews, good or bad, are not objective. I'm wondering if the reviews would actually be more honest if SP's weren't able to refute the reviews, or if a lot of people would just get a kick out of being as mean as possible.
Like I said, a lot of clients wouldn't write reviews if it weren't to encourage a SP they saw and had a positive experience with, and a lot of them just don't have the reflex to write one at all. That might be why when there's a negative review about a SP who is well loved by certain clients, these clients will follow up with a good review. I don't think it means these reviews aren't objective, but obviously if a SP's regular clients write reviews for them, it might still be biased because we all have a different clientele. The clients who like me the most tend to have a certain profile and personality type. (it's varied, but I do see certain types of men more often than others).. so obviously their opinions may be different from the clientele of another SP who is completely different from me and booked me.
I don't think saying that attractiveness is a social construct is meant to make women feel better about themselves, it just is the case. What was attractive 15 years ago isn't the same thing now. What women find attractive in men is also a social construct. I also think that some clients genuinely love the SP's they are seeing, and even if they aren't ''super models'', they truly find them beautiful. Maybe you think someone is chubby and unattractive, but another person will find the same lady curvy and sexy, everyone has different tastes and standards.
I'm not personally responding to this thread because I'm insecure btw, I know I look like my photos and what you see is what you get, but what I'm hearing is that some of you are annoyed that us SP's advertise here and participate in the forum, and to an extent I understand why, because you feel like there is less honesty in the reviews.
Personally if I get a negative comment I will try to reflect on if I did something wrong and how I can change my behaviour, but an experience between a SP and a client is really subjective and depends on many things. It's only natural that your experience is going to be different from what you saw in the reviews, because everyone has a different personality and things happen organically. I think looking at reviews for safety is a perfectly good reason to check the forum.
As for refuting bad reviews, I do think that some people get a kick out of writing negative things about women's bodies and about SP's in particular. There's a way to word things, and I can tell when someone just wanted to make the person feel bad or just insult the person, vs actual criticism. I think people can encourage each other to be cruel to someone or a group of people in a certain setting, and the opposite can happen as well. Yep reviews, good or bad, are not objective. I'm wondering if the reviews would actually be more honest if SP's weren't able to refute the reviews, or if a lot of people would just get a kick out of being as mean as possible.
Like I said, a lot of clients wouldn't write reviews if it weren't to encourage a SP they saw and had a positive experience with, and a lot of them just don't have the reflex to write one at all. That might be why when there's a negative review about a SP who is well loved by certain clients, these clients will follow up with a good review. I don't think it means these reviews aren't objective, but obviously if a SP's regular clients write reviews for them, it might still be biased because we all have a different clientele. The clients who like me the most tend to have a certain profile and personality type. (it's varied, but I do see certain types of men more often than others).. so obviously their opinions may be different from the clientele of another SP who is completely different from me and booked me.
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I wouldn’t call it a life defining moment, when I met my wife and when my children, grandchildren were born that was. I would call it amazing luck and a fabulous surprise you should never confuse these things. There is no comparison with sharing your life, your love your dreams with someone and paying to see someone, no matter how gorgeous how kind and even if you become friends like I have with my ATF.Actually some SPs can be a life defining moment. You for example have been seeing your two ATFs for years, right?
To continue your analogy, it’s fine to not meet Snow White but the evil queen. But if it’s one of the 7 dwarfs instead that becomes a bit more problematic.
I know the difference between reality and fantasy lol.
I have run into one or 2 of the dwarfs also but they weren’t that bad. Sometimes gems come in smaller packages.
someone has to report a review for it to be removed, and it's more likely to be the sp herself or one of her friends who will report it...
And you believe those descriptions (Or numbers 9 and 10s ?).???
These would be for Playmates, supermodels (Miss X contestants (Before the woke garbage days)) etc etc
(And who in this category would work for a mere $200.00 or so).
Have few stunning babes show up in my Instagram, I always wished that there were few like those in MERB providers scene.
Personally I never used numbers because most of the girls would be AVERAGE to little above average 5 to 7s, although true
visualization or description just imagine the backlash I would receive. My rule of thumb, deduct AT LEAST 2 points from the
numbers given then you won't get disappointed with the high expectations.
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind giving 10s for services as I had some excellent excellent experiences
(From few girls 5 to 8 looks category. (The good old days, boy I miss them).
Another note I like to point out, sometimes I see 10s for service but with no any acronyms or details to go with it
Just long long stories that after few lines become boring to read and continue....
More likely but not exclusively. I have reported reviews before that had nothing to do with me. (I’ve never seen the SP and had no interest in ever booking her)
Of course, I wouldn’t compare meeting your ATF to meeting your wife or having children. But there are levels to this.
For me, meeting someone, a long-term friend or SP can still have a huge impact on your life especially if it is a relationship you keep for years.
And no need for personal attacks and the mention of smaller packages.
Yes but they wouldn’t know what I’m comfortable sharing and not. Some details had been removed before I saw it but I still had to report it 2 other times to have other info removed
Fair.
I think ALL and ANY personal and identifiable information of the SP shouldn’t be part of the review.
I agree, I am lucky to have her in my life as I have said many times. She is an amazing person and I value her friendship and will forever be grateful for her kindness.Of course, I wouldn’t compare meeting your ATF to meeting your wife or having children. But there are levels to this.
For me, meeting someone, a long-term friend or SP can still have a huge impact on your life especially if it is a relationship you keep for years.
And no need for personal attacks and the mention of smaller packages.
I wasn’t attacking you and you are the one that brought up dwarfs not me.
I was simply saying there is a huge difference between reality and fantasy and they are not comparable.
I'm relatively new in this field and my experience is mixed. Review in MERB from community members do help align (of course YMMV). I may be generous in review if I leave happy 9/10. So it is very subjective. What I value is review that provide more context. As someone looking for SP, I would also think during the review, is it maybe a rough day for her or was the description just generic with many promises and SP doesn't deliver because she isn't comfortable with it.
There are a lot of variable into play. But once finding the right one for you, being a regular is probably a better choice and time for both seeker and provider.
There are a lot of variable into play. But once finding the right one for you, being a regular is probably a better choice and time for both seeker and provider.
I am a bit of an expert on finding personal information. What I do is mainly social engineering. If someone knows personal information about someone else it is most of the time because that information was given. I am very careful with what I share, what I do for living etc. Sometimes we get too comfortable with someone who we are not supposed be comfortable to start with. Instead of blaming the world, own your shit and stop sharing privatw information.
When I was 20 I thought blondes were my "type". I've come to realize that there is an hierarchy in beauty. Then there is also how a person makes you feel. Attraction is a product of both.
When I was 20 I thought blondes were my "type". I've come to realize that there is an hierarchy in beauty. Then there is also how a person makes you feel. Attraction is a product of both.
This. For the SPs who complain about personal information coming up in reviews.
It's super simple. Stop it at its source - you. Lmao.
If your personal information comes up because you lack the judgment who you tell it to, that's entirely on you. Anyone with a tiny bit of sense understands that. Unless there's deep connection, and you establish trust, don't be stupid.
I find that 80-90 % of the hobby is based on deception. From false pictures and descriptions to false promises of services rendered and their cost, etc.,etc. I didn't say 100% because there are ladies (usually at the higher end of the industry and pricier) who deliver as advertised and even beyond. These are the gems.
The elephant in the room $$$$ tends to have that effect.
This however is true with many things you purchase hence the phrase buyer be ware.
Imagine if someone was like "people who don't leave reviews on google or Yelp shouldn't be allowed to see the reviews and ratings or to use these sites"
The board isn't just for reviews. It's financed by our ads and I think it's perfectly valid for a client to prefer staying low profile especially in a climate where you guys are essentially criminals for hiring us. It's okay to read reviews even if one doesn't write any, and that is true for many businesses. I would hope people read reviews before they hire a professional regardless of the field - accountant, lawyer, escort, nail stylist, a custom birthday cake, you name it - and regardless of if they also write reviews or not.
Also? Beauty is 100% subjective, this isn't a debate it's a fact. Tastes are not universal and nobody gets to decide what others find attractive.
I was initially going to respond to individual comments but I got a headache and figured a general answer would work better lol.
The board isn't just for reviews. It's financed by our ads and I think it's perfectly valid for a client to prefer staying low profile especially in a climate where you guys are essentially criminals for hiring us. It's okay to read reviews even if one doesn't write any, and that is true for many businesses. I would hope people read reviews before they hire a professional regardless of the field - accountant, lawyer, escort, nail stylist, a custom birthday cake, you name it - and regardless of if they also write reviews or not.
Also? Beauty is 100% subjective, this isn't a debate it's a fact. Tastes are not universal and nobody gets to decide what others find attractive.
I was initially going to respond to individual comments but I got a headache and figured a general answer would work better lol.
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