Review inflation
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I wouldn’t say that I think many professional photo shoots are enhanced to make the lady look better than reality.
I don’t blame them I would certainly want the photographer to show the best look when they are being paid a nice amount.
Just like food , fruit, clothing everything else the reason for a professional photograph is to show the best possible view and sell the product, nothing wrong with the ladies doing the same.
With selfies yes sometimes reality is nicer than the selfies ladies take as they are not professionally done or photoshopped.
I guess once the fun starts their beauty does start to magnify though.
Of course spending money on SP's is expensive, I didn't deny that, but it doesn't benefit the forum itself. What I meant is that as SP's we have to pay to participate in this forum, but clients don't. I agree with your comment the point is to keep people safe.
I think it is kind of a package deal. Yes we don’t pay to be on Merb although I believe in the past a few did and they had a red coloured symbol against their name as contributing members, never really knew why or if there was any advantage to that, maybe EB could explain I think he was one way back if I remember right.
Just like reviews benefit clients by making it easier for them to choose and SP for being able to advertise, same thing goes if clients weren’t booking and spending money on the SP that advertise here then it would all fall apart.
You would not advertise on a sight that is devoid of customers.
SP's do NOT have to be Supporting Members to comment in the threads. There are multiple examples that support this in other threads.
Funny i was about to post pretty much the same thing
On one hand we have the audience:
-Active users who post (reviews, comments..)
-Active users who don't post (lurkers)
-Inactive users
All active users build the ecosystem @Sylar mentioned to provide the trafic bought by advertisers to finance the board
Sometimes we love to argue for the sake of argument but it's just basic web marketing, it's not us and them (or it could be if you listen to Pink Floyd while reading this
)For a lot of forums advertising is insanely expensive because they control the narrative and they have the ability to delete bad reviews and give a false image to a very naive audience.
I've heard of people paying like 50k and more for annual advertising on boards like this. It's kinda insane.
There's a conflict of interest between having an open board and paying advertisers clearly but there's also a cost involved.
Another business model would be to have some kind of subscription, not really sure we want to go there.
Also there's a need to have some kind of balance, if you delete too many bad reviews you'll lose your audience
Another business model would be to have some kind of subscription, not really sure we want to go there.
Also there's a need to have some kind of balance, if you delete too many bad reviews you'll lose your audience
But you can't reply in your own review thread if you are not a supporting member.
That's true and you are right SPs who aren't supporting members don't have to pay, my point wasn't that MERB is an advertising platform solely tho. I know it's a forum and reviews are a huge part of it, and gaining positive reviews is a goal of many SP's, or at least making sure that certain type of information or slander isn't included in the reviews.
That's not the case with MERB tho, nobody can get bad reviews deleted except in certain special cases.
I never said that bad reviews should be deleted too, unless the SP has a no review policy.. I think many times bad reviews can be warranted, particularly scams and dangerous situations. I just think sometimes reviews are written in an unusually cruel way. I don't see those get deleted unless there was false information. I also agree that overly flowery language in a review could potentially be annoying for a client to read, but I think sometimes certain clients just want to write a love letter to a SP they actually really enjoy seeing... I think that's kinda sweet. And like I've said before, the vast majority of clients I see don't feel compelled to write reviews and don't want to participate in the forum so much.
The difference for me when I started advertising and posting here isn't that I feel like I'm controlling the narrative, it's more a safety issue. Clients can research me here and know I'm a real person.
Exactly and I think there are cases when this is necessary, specially when people are being very disrespectful (which is different from writing a bad review about someone using fake photos and having their boyfriend waiting in the living room)
Pretty sure almost all users would disappear if there was a paid membership requirement just look at how people react to a rate hike by SP.
Personally it would make little sense for me to pay membership just to see reviews or even SP adds, I am perfectly capable of selecting SP I want to see without looking at reviews.
@Lunaseraphim I didn't say they do that here. I'm saying this style of forum the owner/mods have the ability to. My main point is $1200 a year is really cheap for annual advertising.
I would, and have, paid to use sites like this. The cost is usually pretty nominal, maybe $20/yr, and if the board gives you value then it's cheap at the price. On top of that, it puts a lot of the control back in the members hands and significantly reduces the amount of lurkers, timewasters and trolls.People are also more likely to contribute more actively, because they have skin in the game, so to speak. Most of these sites also do have a public area, usually some kind of general discussion forum, that people can use for free.
i guess it's 50/50
, i guess there are pros and cons to both options.I try not to take my personal example too much but considering i'm not that active i would also probably not use a subscription based board.
Also having a monthly subscriptions to "blowjobsbros" on your credit card may lead to awkward family discussions
They're mutually exclusive business models so you really have to consider the target audience. If half the members here disappeared tomorrow you wouldn't even notice, because three quarters of the people here don't post anyway, so for people who participate in the forum the absence would be invisible. In a member paid forum they'd never notice either, and the site wouldn't care, because non paying members bring them nothing so who cares if they're missing? There is no point at which the regular forum users would notice or care about the absent lurkers.i guess it's 50/50
I try not to take my personal example too much but considering i'm not that active i would also probably not use a subscription based board.
Also having a monthly subscriptions to "blowjobsbros" on your credit card may lead to awkward family discussions
That changes significantly on a forum like this one though..Lurkers are extremely important here not because they contribute to the forum but because they represent eyeballs on ads, even if we can't see them. We might not care if half the people disappeared overnight but the paid advertisers would have fits. That's why it would be difficult if not impossible to superimpose the formats, juat because they monetize differently.
Exactly and since we don't have access to the numbers (not that we want to
) the board works perfectly as it is.My point was more about the complain about lurkers, they're part of the ecosystem
No, it doesn't, not by a long shot, in large part because it has this business model, and there is non alignment in the board value system vs. the member values..Having said that, as long as we understand what the warts are we can make the conscious decision of whether to accept them or not, active use of the board representing implicit acceptance, if not agreement.Exactly and since we don't have access to the numbers (not that we want to
The glory days of self-sustained boards are long gone, so "works perfectly" may be too much but it does the job, as long as, as you said, we know how that works.
At the end of the day it's not that important a topic we discuss here, we don't really use the infos we get there to build a retirement plan and we're clearly not curing cancer.
At the end of the day it's not that important a topic we discuss here, we don't really use the infos we get there to build a retirement plan and we're clearly not curing cancer.
If it's important enough to invest any of your time to post or read what's here then it's important enough to consider the topic and its implications. Future investment of time depends on you.
I appreciate your update and find it unfortunate if this is the case, but maybe this limitation has been lifted since I see non-Supporting members (SP's) answering in their own threads in other sections of the board.
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