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Richardhart

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I would like to vent & ask who are these dirty guys that give us a bad rep when it comes to hygiene.
I am someone who takes 1 or 2 showers every day of my life. When i know i am going to be intimate, it is a greater level of cleaning, scrubbing, grooming & self care.
I have always assumed that everyone does this, apparently not everyone does..

It has happened a few times that upon arrival i am asked to shower, i politely respond that i just came here from home & i am freshly washed.
Recently a provider insisted so i asked why she insists i shower here when i just took a 30 minute intense shower session at home and that was 15 minutes ago, in between i only drove 12 minutes.
She replied that "all men say that and you'd be surprised how many men appear clean & smell good, but once i remove their pants its as if they haven't washed all week down there"
I obliged, but i am kind of offended that soneone would knowingly allow a provider to go 'down there' knowing that they aren't fresh and clean.

Is this all just a way to cut into the clients time? Or are people really showing up with dirty balls?
If i go to a spa or gym, i make sure to bring my towels, robe & bath shoes. I fear stuff like athletes foot and i remember hearing about a friend that got quite infected in a massage parlor with some foot fungus after using the slippers provided.
I am not comfortable taking a shower in a hotel or random condo without my supplies, also i literally spend 30 minutes scrubbing & moisturizing & grooming myself to the point where when i sweat i smell like roses.

Any thoughts on this?
If men are really going to see providers with dirty butt & balls, what is going on in their minds, how could they lack so much common sense and self respect (especially respect for others)


Update:
Thank you for the input and insights. I bundled together a small bag with a fresh towel, slippers, a bathrobe, a washcloth and sponge, travel size cleansing gels & toiletrys with scope, toothpaste, toothbrush.
I put it in my back seat & i am ready from now on.
My main concern was not the shower but more the potential of some type of foot fungus like athletes foot which is rampant in places that many people walk on surfaces barefoot.
I will carry my slippers and respectfully take the shower to make sure whoever i am seeing is content.
 
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Mw66

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Lol I hear you. Similar experience for me a few times showing up showered and fresh literally 15 min in shower prior, but I realized not to think too much of it. All it took is one bad experience for them or even hearing about a bad experience.

It puts her at ease to jump in shower, even if you are already fresh. I even show up with my own toothbrush and brush my teeth and every girl really appreciates that.

Her being at ease = better chance of a good experience and her not hesistating to provide a little extra special effort on the service.

Plus if you are already showered, then you just need a quicker shower without having to do a deep scrub and it still saves you some time.
 
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Cap'tain Fantastic

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When i know i am going to be intimate, it is a greater level of cleaning, scrubbing, grooming & self care.
I do exactly the same with the only difference being that when I get to the incall I take another shower without being asked for. That way I can assume that the girl will be reassured and be more relaxed and comfortable. She doesn’t need the extra stress of wondering if you are actually really clean.
 

Richardhart

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I do exactly the same with the only difference being that when I get to the incall I take another shower without being asked for. That way I can assume that the girl will be reassured and be more relaxed and comfortable. She doesn’t need the extra stress of wondering if you are actually really clean.
I guess i will start carrying a kit with bathshoes, towels and toiletrys.
You are right, i should be more accomodating
 
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Sean007

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I am with you it also baffles me some guys would not show up clean. Be careful however about brushing your teeth just before. Yiu should nouyour teeth i the 2 hours ish before a meeting - can create micro scratches in your mouth that is a door for infections. On myh end i brush 2 hours before and rinse my mouth a few times and chew gum to make sure i have good breath. Just my 2 cent…
 

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I think we can draw a parallel with the usage of condoms: we know we are clean, and we might have just received test results two hours ago, but it shouldn’t matter for either of us.

Additionally, I know people who sweat a lot and quickly. They might not even realize that they are not smelling good because your senses develop resistance to your own odor.

A couple of times, I have seen a sense of relief and appreciation when I voluntarily mention that I would like to take a bath because I traveled from a bit far.
 

AirBo

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I have the utmost respect for SPs who deal with all this crap:
  • Some men won't shower or don't shower properly
  • Some men will suggest BBFS or try to remove the condom during the action
  • Some men don't wipe their hairy ass clean
  • Some men are plain rude and have a disdain for women
  • Some men have violent tendencies, whether physical or psychological
These losers give us, "good men", a bad name.

And then there are those who won't shower, won't wipe their ass clean, refuse using a condom, are rude and violent (ex: Trump). They should be obliterated from the surface of the earth.
 

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How do I know that you really shower before you left your place?

How do I know that you didn’t run all the way to my incall?

Summer is around the corner, sometimes just 5 mins outside is enough for you to be all sweaty and no one wants to suck sweaty balls.

If you already shower, just jump in the shower and focus on strategic area being your crotch. Use the mouthwash and don’t argue.
 

Obvio-0bvio

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When addressing your question about clients and their bad hygiene habits, it is evident that there are distinct types of individuals who may not prioritize personal cleanliness.

Some clients may feel that because they are paying for a service, they do not need to concern themselves with maintaining good hygiene. This attitude can be reflective of a lack of respect towards service providers in general.

Additionally, there are individuals in everyday life who may simply be disorganized or in denial about their own hygiene issues.

An intriguing group includes those who exhibit excitement before an encounter and experience a sudden and urgent need to use the restroom, likening the sensation to a rush similar to that of consuming a stimulant like cocaine.

In my opinion, it is important for both clients and service providers to uphold good hygiene practices in order to establish a built encounter on mutual respect.
 

HG Hunter

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I always shower before and after a session.
If there's no shower, I don't stay.
And that's even if I just came from home or the gym freshly showered.
It's good hygiene and makes me feel better and that way the provider knows I'm clean.
It's also a sign of respect for the lady.
 

Halloween Mike

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A couple times when i did outcall i had to wait longer times before the provider showed up, like 30 minutes pass ETA and i gave myself a fresh crotch clean just in case, even if i was just sitting on a bed in my underwear watching stuff while waiting. The last thing i would want is hygiene issues.

If i go to incall i always showered right when i arrive. I just say hi and such of course before, but i immediately excuse myself in the shower as im not comfortable initiating action while still wet, so the time we talk after usually fix that.

It really became a routine thing for the girls. Last time i was seeing 2 girls back to back, same agency, one block next to another. I asked the booker if i could shower after my first meeting if there was enough time left to maximize my time, after all i was just taking an elevator and walking 30 seconds on the street (and it was no summer sweat), the 2 block were next to each other. But the booker said she would likely ask me to shower anyway. I guess he COULD had tell her, his word would had been enough, but whatever .. its no big deal.
 

Sean007

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I just domt feel good initiating close intimate connection if imhave not showered before. So even if not asked i will take one. As Obvio said it is only a matter of respect. Why some guys think that because they are opaying for this service gives them the right to treat the girls sithout respect is just so confusing to me. At that point it is jus5 a matter of personal trait, either you respect people or you don´t. And if somehow you think providers don’t diserve respect then maybe you should stop hobbying….
 
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Richardhart

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Or.
Instead of complaining and arguing that you took your shower already
just go in the shower!
So you lose 5 mins of your time.
You probably lost it by arguing and then having her be upset anyway
In my defense i did not argue one bit, as i said in the post "i obliged"
 

Richardhart

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How do I know that you really shower before you left your place?

How do I know that you didn’t run all the way to my incall?

Summer is around the corner, sometimes just 5 mins outside is enough for you to be all sweaty and no one wants to suck sweaty balls.

If you already shower, just jump in the shower and focus on strategic area being your crotch. Use the mouthwash and don’t argue.
Great advice. I actually bundled together a small bag with a fresh towel, slippers, a bathrobe, a washcloth and sponge, travel size cleansing gels & toiletrys with scope, toothpaste, toothbrush.
I put it in my back seat & i am ready from now on
 
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At the risk of being repeatitive , i still shower once on the premise even though i showered at home before the meeting.
 

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Having to take a shower upon arrival is pretty standard. I just look at it as part of the price of admission. There is no way for an SP to verify if you already took a shower or not. Regarding the showers in many of these in all locations, they are some of the worst ergonomically designed showers I’ve ever seen. The mystery of the cold or hot water temps is one thing but having to climb a huge bathtub wall sometimes makes me wonder how nobody has taken a fall.
 
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