The Joe.T Memorial Yankees Suck Thread for 2007
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Hello EE Sweety,eastender said:
Point one is obvious to everyone.
Point two: well...you just don't have it in you to get past "THE RUDE" in you even once do you...lol. Now...please, please, please...one more time with feeling if you will darling.
Big big sympathy HUG...for an unhappy guy,
Korbel
The voting for the MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year, and Manager of the Year was completed and the ballots turned over the appropriate authorities at the completion of the regular season.btyger said:
Who says there's no crying in Baseball.............
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(AP) DALLAS While waiting for a heart transplant, 13-year-old Andrew and his surgeon talked a lot about the World Series prospects for their favorite team, the Boston Red Sox.
They even talked about somehow making a trip to see a game. Now, about three weeks after successful surgery for a new heart, Andrew is set to go with Dr. Kristine and his mother to Fenway Park for Game 2 against the Colorado Rockies on Thursday night.
It started with the Red Sox hat Dr. Kristine gave Andrew for luck as they waited for a donor. Less than a day later, a heart for Andrew had been found.
"Red Sox fans, we believe in this karma stuff," said Dr. Kristine , who grew up in Boston.
The two fans became fast friends after Andrew arrived at Children's Medical Center Dallas in August with heart failure.
"It was just kind of a special bond between us," said Andrew, a West Texas native who was inspired by the Red Sox when they w on the 2004 World Series. It was Boston's first World Series win since 1918, ending a drought linked in baseball lore to a curse on the team that sold Babe Ruth to the rival New York Yankees.
On Thursday morning, they are set to fly to Boston on a plane being provided though the nonprofit Grace Flight of America. When the Red Sox found out about Andrew, they arranged for him, his mom and Guleserian to watch the game from a suite so Andrew will be out of the cool night air, a hospital official said.
Red Sox spokesman John said that once team president and CEO Larry Lucchino learned about Andrew, the team put together a VIP experience for him.
"We're looking forward to having Andrew up here tomorrow," John said Wednesday. He said the Red Sox would meet Andrew at the airport and take him to the ballpark.
The Texas Rangers will give the group a send-off from the airport, with officials giving Andrew several Rangers items. The Rangers are also donating about $15,000 for the fuel for the trip, said Jim Sundberg, executive vice president of communications and public relations.
As a newborn, Andrew was diagnosed with idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy, or an enlarged heart that doesn't pump properly. But with the help of medication, he had few ill effects from his condition growing up and even played baseball on two teams in his hometown of Odessa.
His mother, 35-year-old Lauri, said she was told he would either grow out of the condition, survive with medication or end up needing a transplant.
Andrew turned 13 on Aug. 8 and a couple of days later he and his mother went out to try his new golf clubs. Andrew soon grew fatigued on the course, unable to catch his breath. After being admitted to Children's Medical Center, where doctors had followed his case since he was a baby, Lauri was told her son needed a transplant.
Dr. Kristine said baseball helped provide a distraction to Andrew.
"He was able to focus on something other than being in the hospital," said Dr. Kristine, surgical director of cardiac transplantation at Children's and a professor at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.
Andrew and Dr. Kristine began to talk more earnestly about going to Boston if the Red Sox made it to the World Series and Andrew continued to flourish.
"We'll do our part, and the Red Sox just have to keep winning," said Dr. Kristine, whose family has season tickets to the Red Sox.
Andrew was discharged from the hospital early last week, but he and his mother will stay in Dallas likely until just before Christmas as Andrew undergoes frequent checkups.
"Right now I feel great," said the seventh-grader, who plays catcher, pitcher, third base and outfield. "I've been running around, playing a lot."
http://wbztv.com/video/[email protected]
http://wbztv.com/sports/local_story_298063751.html
(AP) DALLAS While waiting for a heart transplant, 13-year-old Andrew and his surgeon talked a lot about the World Series prospects for their favorite team, the Boston Red Sox.
They even talked about somehow making a trip to see a game. Now, about three weeks after successful surgery for a new heart, Andrew is set to go with Dr. Kristine and his mother to Fenway Park for Game 2 against the Colorado Rockies on Thursday night.
It started with the Red Sox hat Dr. Kristine gave Andrew for luck as they waited for a donor. Less than a day later, a heart for Andrew had been found.
"Red Sox fans, we believe in this karma stuff," said Dr. Kristine , who grew up in Boston.
The two fans became fast friends after Andrew arrived at Children's Medical Center Dallas in August with heart failure.
"It was just kind of a special bond between us," said Andrew, a West Texas native who was inspired by the Red Sox when they w on the 2004 World Series. It was Boston's first World Series win since 1918, ending a drought linked in baseball lore to a curse on the team that sold Babe Ruth to the rival New York Yankees.
On Thursday morning, they are set to fly to Boston on a plane being provided though the nonprofit Grace Flight of America. When the Red Sox found out about Andrew, they arranged for him, his mom and Guleserian to watch the game from a suite so Andrew will be out of the cool night air, a hospital official said.
Red Sox spokesman John said that once team president and CEO Larry Lucchino learned about Andrew, the team put together a VIP experience for him.
"We're looking forward to having Andrew up here tomorrow," John said Wednesday. He said the Red Sox would meet Andrew at the airport and take him to the ballpark.
The Texas Rangers will give the group a send-off from the airport, with officials giving Andrew several Rangers items. The Rangers are also donating about $15,000 for the fuel for the trip, said Jim Sundberg, executive vice president of communications and public relations.
As a newborn, Andrew was diagnosed with idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy, or an enlarged heart that doesn't pump properly. But with the help of medication, he had few ill effects from his condition growing up and even played baseball on two teams in his hometown of Odessa.
His mother, 35-year-old Lauri, said she was told he would either grow out of the condition, survive with medication or end up needing a transplant.
Andrew turned 13 on Aug. 8 and a couple of days later he and his mother went out to try his new golf clubs. Andrew soon grew fatigued on the course, unable to catch his breath. After being admitted to Children's Medical Center, where doctors had followed his case since he was a baby, Lauri was told her son needed a transplant.
Dr. Kristine said baseball helped provide a distraction to Andrew.
"He was able to focus on something other than being in the hospital," said Dr. Kristine, surgical director of cardiac transplantation at Children's and a professor at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center.
Andrew and Dr. Kristine began to talk more earnestly about going to Boston if the Red Sox made it to the World Series and Andrew continued to flourish.
"We'll do our part, and the Red Sox just have to keep winning," said Dr. Kristine, whose family has season tickets to the Red Sox.
Andrew was discharged from the hospital early last week, but he and his mother will stay in Dallas likely until just before Christmas as Andrew undergoes frequent checkups.
"Right now I feel great," said the seventh-grader, who plays catcher, pitcher, third base and outfield. "I've been running around, playing a lot."
Accuracy
Btyger,
Simply about accuracy - get it right.
I don't have a team. I have a mathematical interest in athletic excellence. Team sports or individuals. How athletes are evaluated from novice to the pro level. Not who won but how they won - what adjustments were made, how the league adjusted to the win and equally to the opponents loss. Example - the 2006 NFL season,teams who made the play-offs but did not win the Super Bowl like New Orleans,Chicago,San Diego had their weaknesses exposed en route and did not adjust. This year all three are struggling while New England learned from their loss, adjusted and you are seeing the results.
Why certain elite tennis players make the adjustment from a grass court to a clay court while others cannot and vice versa?
One of your fellow Red Sox fans ACCURATELY explained the post season does not factor into the award in question. Not a question of belief - just knowing what the conditions are or making the effort to learn before posting.
Manny got alot of grief for the media because HE DID STATE THE OBVIOUS.
Unfortunately you and the media did not get the OBVIOUS and that is that the media is totally irrelevent to the athletic event. Very rare that a media person understands the complex details of a sport(hardly any are athletic or have played a sport at a serious level) or can communicate them. They raise improvised issues designed at getting more exposure then their competition. Some are better than others.
btyger said:There's some real bitter Yankees fans out there, as evidenced by this and your following post as well as JoeT's posts...you're both clutching at straws. No-decisions are a sign of a better pitcher? Give us a break-no decisions can be caused by anything. Yeah, Sabbathia had more quality starts than Beckett. So did Gil Meche. Is he a better pitcher than Beckett? No, neither is. Suddenly Yankees fans are reduced to quibling over quality starts and no-decisions? Must be hard being a front runner when your team can't live up to expectations.
You can't tell me you seriously believe postseason doesn't factor into season awards, either.
And you can talk all you want about the World Series history of the Yankees. That's what the Yankees are right now: history. 26 is about as hollow as me talking about the Celtics and bringing up the number 16. People don't remember that stuff. They only remember recent history, like 2004.
But, before your blood pressure gets too high, remember Manny. He got a lot of grief from the media for stating the obvious: It's not the end of the world, it's just entertainment. If you don't like it, turn it off. In a few days, everyone will be 0-0 all over again.
Btyger,
Simply about accuracy - get it right.
I don't have a team. I have a mathematical interest in athletic excellence. Team sports or individuals. How athletes are evaluated from novice to the pro level. Not who won but how they won - what adjustments were made, how the league adjusted to the win and equally to the opponents loss. Example - the 2006 NFL season,teams who made the play-offs but did not win the Super Bowl like New Orleans,Chicago,San Diego had their weaknesses exposed en route and did not adjust. This year all three are struggling while New England learned from their loss, adjusted and you are seeing the results.
Why certain elite tennis players make the adjustment from a grass court to a clay court while others cannot and vice versa?
One of your fellow Red Sox fans ACCURATELY explained the post season does not factor into the award in question. Not a question of belief - just knowing what the conditions are or making the effort to learn before posting.
Manny got alot of grief for the media because HE DID STATE THE OBVIOUS.
Unfortunately you and the media did not get the OBVIOUS and that is that the media is totally irrelevent to the athletic event. Very rare that a media person understands the complex details of a sport(hardly any are athletic or have played a sport at a serious level) or can communicate them. They raise improvised issues designed at getting more exposure then their competition. Some are better than others.
Congrats go to the Red Sox for winning game one in their quest to buy a World Series.
Like I said that after Beckett the Red Sox have nobody that scares anybody, look for Colorado to take game two tonight, I picked Colorado to win by two runs tonight on my pro-line ticket(legalized sports betting run by the government).
Like I said that after Beckett the Red Sox have nobody that scares anybody, look for Colorado to take game two tonight, I picked Colorado to win by two runs tonight on my pro-line ticket(legalized sports betting run by the government).
Pot: "Kettle, you're black."Joe.t said:Congrats go to the Red Sox for winning game one in their quest to buy a World Series.
(I wonder what's larger, Joe's gambling budget or his sex budget. I know he has nothing left for food."Joe.t said:Like I said that after Beckett the Red Sox have nobody that scares anybody, look for Colorado to take game two tonight, I picked Colorado to win by two runs tonight on my pro-line ticket(legalized sports betting run by the government).
Joe.t said:Congrats go to the Red Sox for winning game one in their quest to buy a World Series.
Like I said that after Beckett the Red Sox have nobody that scares anybody, look for Colorado to take game two tonight, I picked Colorado to win by two runs tonight on my pro-line ticket(legalized sports betting run by the government).
Hello Joe.t,
Congrats to the Yankers in their 7 straight failures to buy a World Series, and with a hell of a lot more money too...LOL!
Bronx cheers,
Korbel
Hello all,
Game 2: Red Sox 2 Rockies1
Damn...I HATE these kinds of games...lol. Nothing but tension. I think I need a sedative or very stiff drink.
Ugh,
Korbel
Game 2: Red Sox 2 Rockies1
Damn...I HATE these kinds of games...lol. Nothing but tension. I think I need a sedative or very stiff drink.
Ugh,
Korbel
Money's not everything
I have yet to see conclusive evidence teams with the highest payrolls are actually buying themselves wins.
Based on 2006 figures, the 10 MLB teams with the highest payrolls, the top tier – Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs, Astros and Giants (totaling approximately $1,087,702,000 – not verified) – show a .518 win pct.
Meanwhile, the 2nd tier – Cards, Phillies, Mariners, Tigers, Orioles, Blue Jays, Padres, Rangers, Twins and Nationals – have spend together some $331,000,000 less than the top tier and played for .500.
The bottom tier – A’s, Reds, Diamondbacks, Indians, Royals, Pirates, Rockies, Devil Rays and Marlins ($482,096,000 – not verified) played for .482.
Based on 162 games, a .518 win pct. translates into a 84 wins 78 losses record which also means that the top tier, finished the season only 3 games ahead of the middle tier and 6 games ahead of the bottom tier.
Now 4 teams from the top tier qualified for the 2007 post-season playoffs, 1 only from the middle tier and 3 more from the bottom tier.
Before tonight’s game, top and middle tiers post-season records are respectively 9-9 (.500) and 0-3 (.000).
Meanwhile the bottom tier’s record is an impressive 16-10 (.615).
p.s. in 2006, MLB teams paid some $2,326,000,000 in salary which, coincidently, amounts to Montenegro's 2006 GDP....................................
I have yet to see conclusive evidence teams with the highest payrolls are actually buying themselves wins.
Based on 2006 figures, the 10 MLB teams with the highest payrolls, the top tier – Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Mets, Dodgers, Cubs, Astros and Giants (totaling approximately $1,087,702,000 – not verified) – show a .518 win pct.
Meanwhile, the 2nd tier – Cards, Phillies, Mariners, Tigers, Orioles, Blue Jays, Padres, Rangers, Twins and Nationals – have spend together some $331,000,000 less than the top tier and played for .500.
The bottom tier – A’s, Reds, Diamondbacks, Indians, Royals, Pirates, Rockies, Devil Rays and Marlins ($482,096,000 – not verified) played for .482.
Based on 162 games, a .518 win pct. translates into a 84 wins 78 losses record which also means that the top tier, finished the season only 3 games ahead of the middle tier and 6 games ahead of the bottom tier.
Now 4 teams from the top tier qualified for the 2007 post-season playoffs, 1 only from the middle tier and 3 more from the bottom tier.
Before tonight’s game, top and middle tiers post-season records are respectively 9-9 (.500) and 0-3 (.000).
Meanwhile the bottom tier’s record is an impressive 16-10 (.615).
p.s. in 2006, MLB teams paid some $2,326,000,000 in salary which, coincidently, amounts to Montenegro's 2006 GDP....................................
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Great Job.
WOW...that is a very interesting presentation of facts. Your stats sure make your point well when the top tier of spenders is only .036% more successful than the bottom tier. Now if you can prove to me the Yankers don't just plain SUCK...I will buy you an hour with any lady of your choice. However, in Boston this is an immutable fact. Here, you are tinkering with the law of physics my friend...
Good luck,
Korbel
Hello Ziggy,Ziggy Montana said:
WOW...that is a very interesting presentation of facts. Your stats sure make your point well when the top tier of spenders is only .036% more successful than the bottom tier. Now if you can prove to me the Yankers don't just plain SUCK...I will buy you an hour with any lady of your choice. However, in Boston this is an immutable fact. Here, you are tinkering with the law of physics my friend...
Good luck,
Korbel
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Oh Well .............................
Never gambled on sports or in casinos for that matter. You shouldn't project. Most who pay attention know that I am a mathematician. Jobs inhibit freedom. Have more than sufficient income from copyrights and intellectual property rights for certain statistical packages, evaluation models that I can pick and choose interesting projects, working with community groups or whatever catches my interest.
Point is that you went to alot of effort for the pleasure of being wrong and further effort trying to justify it, deflect and offer rather pointless advice simply because I do not happen to be a Red Sox fan.
Sadly there are too many Roberts in this world. A few blocks away at the Cardiology Institute the children's section has too many.
btyger said:
Never gambled on sports or in casinos for that matter. You shouldn't project. Most who pay attention know that I am a mathematician. Jobs inhibit freedom. Have more than sufficient income from copyrights and intellectual property rights for certain statistical packages, evaluation models that I can pick and choose interesting projects, working with community groups or whatever catches my interest.
Point is that you went to alot of effort for the pleasure of being wrong and further effort trying to justify it, deflect and offer rather pointless advice simply because I do not happen to be a Red Sox fan.
Sadly there are too many Roberts in this world. A few blocks away at the Cardiology Institute the children's section has too many.
Boston History
No, but a book is being written about the history of Boston, "Waiting for Pythagorus".
Ziggy Montana said:I edited my post to correct a few mistakes... I have not verified all the figures...
I meant to ask: did the Copernican Revolution reach Boston yet?
No, but a book is being written about the history of Boston, "Waiting for Pythagorus".
Seems to me that you've done an admirable job of proving the point you're claiming to refute. If, over as large a sampling as you've used, a top tier team has "purchased" 6 wins per season that a bottom tier team cannot afford, it's quite clear that money is a large factor.Ziggy Montana said:
There's an awful lot that goes into building a team: scouting and development, trading, acquiring free agents, effective team management. That one factor, $$$$, can skew things by as much as six games is pretty huge.
selective quoting
You only quoted (and adapted) the portion of the analysis that best suits your beliefs.
As the analysis also suggested, Arizona, Cleveland and Colorado have already outperformed every team part of the 1st tier with the exception of one: Boston.
Explain that...
p.s. This thread's premise - "Yankees sucks" - "your" premise, btw, proves the point you're claiming to refute.
rumpleforeskiin said:
You only quoted (and adapted) the portion of the analysis that best suits your beliefs.
As the analysis also suggested, Arizona, Cleveland and Colorado have already outperformed every team part of the 1st tier with the exception of one: Boston.
Explain that...
p.s. This thread's premise - "Yankees sucks" - "your" premise, btw, proves the point you're claiming to refute.
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