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wondering if the leafs run can last. bubble has to burst sometime... no? just like we can count on Connolly busting a limb or two each season, we should be able to count on the leafs being bottom feeders.

price, yeah, ouch... having a mike smith start no doubt about that... maybe we can point to the lack of healthy dmen as a contributing issue however, price should be better than he's shown thus far.
 

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You should study the NHL rule book my friend :thumb: Perfectly legal play. "act of shooting"
grabby should've been fined and suspended for that pronged eye clip earlier this wk. what gives. shanny needs to stop listen to the boo-birds from the gallery and do his job consistently.
 

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Torres’s Jay-Z costume prompts criticism

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Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres put on brown makeup to go as rapper Jay-Z for a Halloween team party Sunday, prompting criticism on the web, Yahoo Sports reports.

His wife was dressed up as a pregnant Beyonce.

“Seriously people, don’t do it, don’t wear black-face on Halloween, or ever,” the website quotes one fan. “It’s stupid, it’s ignorant, and it just doesn’t fly.”

His teammate Paul Bissonnette, who dressed up as World Wrestling Entertainment “Hacksaw” Jim Duggan, defended Torres.

“As far as everyone trying to call ‘Racism’ because Raffi dressed up like Jay-Z can simmer down. He’s a huge Jay-Z fan,” Bissonnette tweeted.

Bissonnette had tweeted a photo of Torres and his wife from the party.

Torres, who previously played for the Edmonton Oilers and the Vancouver Canucks, is the NHL’s first player of Mexican and Peruvian descent, according to Yahoo Sports. He dealt with racial insensitivity while playing youth hockey in the GTA — his mother once being told that Raffi “should be selling tacos” and his father tackling another hockey parent because of taunts, according to the Columbus Dispatch.
 

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This off-season, when i heard that Milan Lucic was hammered at a local bar & the cops got called because he was supposedly being abusive to his gf, i had a feeling that they weren't on the right path & that they'd enter the season overconfident & out of shape. Now you see the results.....
 

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They only went as far as they did because of Tim Thomas and the same goes for this season. Dont get me wrong, Timmy is one of the very few bruins i actually like and respect, but he has to be 100% on his game every night to help the bruins get the W.

On another note, Phil Kessel got another 2 points tonight and a plus 3. (tied for league lead) He has now become a VERY good defensive player as well as the best offensive player in the entire NHL as of now... wanna bet he does not get picked last for this season's allstar game? Thanks Ovechkin for motivating #81! :thumb:


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This off-season, when i heard that Milan Lucic was hammered at a local bar & the cops got called because he was supposedly being abusive to his gf, i had a feeling that they weren't on the right path & that they'd enter the season overconfident & out of shape. Now you see the results.....
 

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A Veteran's Advice

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It seems that sooner rather than later the NBA will reach a deal with its players and lift their four-month lockout.

Watching from a distance Bill Guerin, a veteran of the NHL lockout and former NHLPA hardliner can only say it should be sooner: A season -- even a single payday -- is a terrible thing to waste.

Presuming an NBA deal gets done, the NHL will remain the only professional sports league to sit out an entire season.

Looking back Guerin, 41, is adamant that they should remain the only one.

When it comes to battles between millionaire players and their billionaire owners the players are in a fight they can't win.

"You have to fight for every percentage point, but you also have to know when to cut your losses," the 18-year NHL veteran told me over the phone. "My point is that it's not worth burning a year fighting over two per cent. Go ahead; burn the year on two per cent. That's great, but you're never going to make up that two per cent. You would be better off taking two-per cent less and making your money."

Are NBA players listening? Maybe. There are a number of issues at work in their dispute with ownership, but primarily it's about how much of the NBA's roughly $4-billion in basketball-related revenue will be shared and what means will be used to share it.

The players were getting 57 per cent of BRI (basketball related income) in their old deal and owners want them to lower their cut to 50 per cent. The players for the longest time have made 53 per cent their line in the sand until recently walking off in a huff when owners rejected their offer of 52.5 per cent (each percentage point is about $40-million annually).

Until the two sides began talking again on Wednesday with encouraging noises being made by each side, it seemed the entire season was hanging on that relatively small gap.

The thought of it makes Guerin shudder as he relives the bitter NHL lockout that sent the 2004-05 season up in smoke. He was front-and-centre as a union vice president and loyal lieutenant to then NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow.

He was as dug in as anyone else, but now looks back with regret and realization.

"There's a partnership in the sense that we share the revenue; we're trying to grow the game, that kind of thing," Guerin says over the phone from Long Island. "But it's their league. I'm retired. It's not my league, but they're still there. They own the teams. They control what's going on, that's the bottom line."

His message to NBA players and to NHL players who may well be in a similar fight when their current deal expires after this season?

Get a deal done. Like it or not you're in a minority partnership. Focus on growing the business rather than dictating the terms, and if that means giving up more than you would like in a deal, so be it.

"If you get too stubborn and you don't want to be open minded about it, you're only hurting yourself," he says. "Better to take a little bit of a haircut than get your whole head shaved."

It's a reversal won of experience. The NHLPA splintered under the weight of a full year out of work and the looming prospect of a second season lost. At the time Guerin admits he looked down at players who split from the hard-line the union had taken against the implementation of a salary cap. No longer.

He lost a full year's salary at $6.7-million and after a season off the ice and in the boardroom he never got completely back into top playing shape the following year. His contract was bought out and that cost him another $2.3-million.

Hockey players are bred to think team first and fight for every inch of ice; get stitched up and keep playing. Pick up those teeth, give them to the trainer, and keep playing.

That mentality helped the NHLPA stay unified for longer and under greater duress than any other sports union has in recent times, but it may ultimately have cost them, as much as it pains Guerin to admit it now.

"When you're right in the middle of it, it's emotional, it's hard," he said. "Hockey players are the ultimate team players and we'll buy in and go to war, but you know what? Individual guys have to do what's right for their families and do what's right for them. To me it's playing."

The NHL's fight was over the change from a free market for player salaries to a hard salary cap in one fell swoop. In the end, they seemed to have lost everything as the owners got their hard cap and got a 24 per cent wage roll back right off the top.

But a funny thing happened: League revenues have grown and all of a sudden a journeyman like James Wisneiwski can command a $33-million over six years from the small market Columbus Blue Jackets. Budding superstars like Drew Doughty can sign a $56-million contract at age 21.

"They say think of the next generation," says Geurin. "The next generation seems to be doing okay."

Geurin is as well. He's a player development coach with the Pittsburgh Penguins. He's got time at home with his four young kids. He looked after the money he earned when he played.

He just wishes he had his lost year back. He doesn't know any NBA players personally, but he knows what they're going through and doesn't want another athlete to go through what he and his peers did.

"It's a year without the game," he says. "You think about stuff like that when you get older."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2011/10/27/grange_nba_nhl/
 

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Is Tim Thomas, Marchands Dad? lol.......

That is f'n hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Oh and after this evening....

Thank you Kes-sel!!!!!!!

Seguin explodes for his first of many hat tricks in his career!

Bruins EMBARRASS the league leading Leafs 7-0!! Two games in a row they've made the Leaf's look extremely bad.
 
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It's unfortunate for the Bruins that they don't face the Leafs more often. They wouldn't suck as much. :confused:

I know, 82 games against the Leaf's and the B's would be the #1 ranked team in the league! Haha.
 

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Georges Laraque: NHL has problem with performance-enhancing drugs

by Benjamin Shingler (CP)

A new book by a retired hockey enforcer suggests the scourge of steroids in professional sports extends far beyond baseball and was commonplace for years in NHL locker rooms.

Georges Laraque says he knew a lot of players, including some of the league's top performers, who used steroids while he was in the league.

“I have to say here that tough guys weren't the only players using steroids in the NHL,” Laraque wrote in “The Story of the NHL's Unlikeliest Tough Guy,” published by Viking Canada.

“It was true that quite a lot of them did use this drug, but other, more talented players did too. Most of us knew who they were, but not a single player, not even me, would ever think of raising his hand to break the silence and accuse a fellow player.”

Laraque, who is now a deputy leader of the federal Green Party, doesn't accuse any players by name in the book either.

But he does offer some hints for what to look for.

“First, you just have to notice how some talented players will experience an efficiency loss as well as a weight loss every four years, those years being the ones the Winter Olympics are held,” he wrote.

“In the following season they make a strong comeback; they manage a mysterious return to form.”

Laraque said enforcers also used steroids to gain weight before arriving in the pros, and substances like Ephedrine so they would be desensitized before a fight.

“Before a game, as I would warm up on the ice, I would always look at the tough guy on the other side,” he wrote.

“If his arms were trembling, if his eyes were bulging, I knew for sure he wasn't going to feel any of the punches I would give him.”

Laraque, who last played in the NHL in 2010, said the league began to tackle the problem in his final years in pro-hockey by setting clear rules against performance-enhancing drugs.

But he said that hockey now must take action against human growth hormone, a drug purported to improve workouts and healing time, which players have started using in recent years.

The NHL and the NHL Players' Association have not yet responded to Laraque's claims.

Testing for performance enhancing substances was included in the collective bargaining agreement reached by the NHL and the NHLPA in 2005.

Under that agreement, every player in the league is subject to three “no-notice” tests from the start of training camp through the end of the regular season.

In the book, Laraque said he asked the NHLPA to take action soon after his career began in 1997.

The NHLPA listened, but initially refused to take any action, “for obvious political reasons.”

“They wanted to keep drug testing as a card in their negotiations with the league,” he wrote. “Plus, since their main goal was to protect the players, to take action against drugs would have harmed some of those players.”

The outspoken Laraque doesn't shy away from controversy in his memoir.

He also offered a frank take on his time with the Phoenix Coyotes under Wayne Gretzky, calling the Great One “the worst coach I've ever played for.”

This isn't the first time the NHL has been under the spotlight for an alleged connection with steroids.

Last year, a Virginia chiropractor who treated members of the Washington Capitals pleaded guilty to misdemeanour steroids charges.

Douglas Nagel, who had offices in the same Arlington, Va., mall complex as the Capitals' practice facility, was placed on three years of probation and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service.

Capitals players Matt Bradley, Shaone Morrison and Eric Fehr admitted receiving chiropractic treatment from Nagel but denied getting steroids from him.

Nagel denied he ever distributed steroids and said the drugs he ordered from a Florida supplier were for personal use.

The supplier, Andrew Thomas, had told investigators that Nagel had boasted the steroids were for professional athletes.

When Nagel was arrested in March 2010, the NHL and the Capitals said the league had done a thorough investigation and there was nothing linking the Nagel case to steroid use by any members of the team.

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said at the time the NHL was not co-operative in his investigation of the case.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/georges-laraque-nhl-has-a-problem-with-performance-enhancing-drugs/article2226866/
 

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Crosby's status

(ESPN) No one knows when exactly Sidney Crosby will return to the Pittsburgh Penguins lineup. But we do know it won't be this weekend.

Many were holding out hope that the Penguins' star forward might make his season debut Friday against Dallas, but head coach Dan Bylsma ended that speculation today:

"Although we've given no timetable or date, I will confirm that Sidney is not playing in the next two games," Bylsma said. "He had a good week of practice and is progressing, but he won't be playing this weekend. We're not keeping a secret. When he plays we'll make sure we let you know."

It sounds more and more like we're closing in on a return, but it's still anyone's guess as to exactly when. Pittsburgh has been extremely clear that they won't rush him back, making his health the top priority. It's the right move and it seems to be paying off, as all reports indicate that he's making progress. The Atlantic Division-leading Penguins will obviously receive a major boost whenever he does come back. They've learned to win without him -- as their 9-3-3 record indicates -- and adding arguably the best player in the world to an already strong lineup will be a nice bonus.
 

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Toronto's Phil Kessel leads the NHL in scoring

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Drafted by the Boston Bruins & traded to Toronto, 24-year old Phil "The Thrill" Kessel already leads the NHL in scoring at such a young age. Kessel has 12 goals & 23 points, leading the league in both categories. As one reporter recently noted, "Kessel has been a beast this season."

Thank you, Boston! :thumb:

Phil Kessel leads NHL in scoring with most goals & most points
 

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Yet you trail in points? ..... could you be any more of a homer hockey fan? maybe your "terror twin" is worse, lol......... BTW, Kess got another point... just so you understand, a goal or an assist = a point.... tell ur terror twin so i do not have to explain twice ok? BWhahahaahahahahahah! ............


PS.... a fan who never speaks of "their team" ONLY after they win a championship is not a "real" OR "credible" fan.... more like a bandwagon fan......... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , ok , it makes sense now! Also........ it is usual a young player gets better with age in the NHL since most start young... aka, Kessel, currently maturing at a very very fast rate and had the bruins not pushed him out of boston, you would of have 2 cups. ;)

PSS, TY to M8 for stopping the harrassing pm's from this guy, MUCH APPRECIATED! :D

OH MY GOODNESS!!! Not so fast little Doc. The Bruins just beat one of the teams in the NHL in the Sabre, who despite being one of the teams, got slaughtered by the Bruins led by Tyler Seguin with two goals. That gives him as many goals in 15 games as he had in all of 2011 in 74 games, and puts him just one goal behind Kessel who got nothing is a losing cause for the Leafs despite playing against one of the poorest and more porous defenses in the NHL.

Good signs for the Bruins and a sad opposite for the Leafs. C'mon Toronto, stick around a bit before the usual collapse. :eyebrows:


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