The Official MERB Baseball Offseason Thread (trades, signings, NO fucktard comments!)

[EagerBeaver]

Do you really think the owners will agree to a floor if they want to hide what they are doing with the revenue sharing monies? It isn't going to happen.

It goes back to a fundamental proposition which has been true from the very inception of baseball as a sport: you cannot legislate winning. Either a team wants to win, or they don't. Obviously the owners who are not using the revenue sharing monies to make their team stronger and are using it elsewhere either don't care about winning, or make it a lower priority to something else.

The teams who want to win should not subsidize those who do not want to win. Therefore I must agree with Boras that unless there is full disclosure, there should be a full refund of those monies to those who donated them.

And little do the critics of the system realize that by not demanding full disclosure, they effectively perpetuate the status quo. For the teams who win - ALL THE TEAMS - they want their competition to be using money on their other businesses rather than reinvesting in their teams. The current system favors the teams who want to win, and the teams who don't want to win who are paid money essentially for doing nothing. Why wouldn't anyone want to be paid something for doing nothing?

You cannot change the system unless you have partners who want change. And the truth is that certain teams always will want to win championships and others will just want to have a small payroll and pocket everything else.

 

[Joe.t]

And it's also not in the best interests of baseball for one team's payroll to be more than 50% higher than the second highest spending club. Considering that this team has developed two quality major league players (Cano and Wang) and still contends every year, something is drastically wrong here.

And, yes, Beav, something is also drastically wrong when 8 teams receive more money from revenue sharing and luxury taxes.

We need two things: a salary cap and a salary floor. I'd suggest a cap of $150,000,000 and a floor of $100,000,000. The big problem with getting this instituted is Bud Selig. Baseball and Fox likes when the Yankees are in the playoffs; if they were limited to $150,000,000, they'd finish in third or fourth place every year.

I hate whiners.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I hate whiners.

Not as much as I hate fucking morons®.

 

[lgna69xxx]

but we Love WINNERS!

I hate whiners.

 

[Joe.t]

And the winner of the 2010 World Series are?

Geez Louis guess who is one of the front runners for Halliday-

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091121&content_id=7698220&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

PS- rumples, as a friend I am suggesting that you do not click on the link, if anybody knows you it's me, your temper will get the better of you if you do, just looking out for you buddy.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Geez Louis guess who is one of the front runners for Halliday-

Guess they'll put him in the rotation just behind Dontrelle Willis.

 

[Jman47]

Mauer near-unanimous pick as American League MVP

Mauer became only the second catcher in 33 years to win the American League Most Valuable Player Award, finishing first in a near-unanimous vote Monday.

The Minnesota Twins star received 27 of 28 first-place votes and 387 points in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.


Who was it?!
Ok, I didn't realize Joe.t, Iggy or Phantom had a vote...

 

[lgna69xxx]

can you imagine Halliday, CC, Burnett,Pettitte, and either Wang/Hughes???/ ......... just send us the WS Trophy now and let everyone play for 2nd best......i still bet bos-DONE would finish anything but 2nd

Geez Louis guess who is one of the front runners for Halliday-

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091121&content_id=7698220&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

PS- rumples, as a friend I am suggesting that you do not click on the link, if anybody knows you it's me, your temper will get the better of you if you do, just looking out for you buddy.

 

[Jman47]

can you imagine Halliday, CC, Burnett,Pettitte, and either Wang/Hughes???/ ......... just send us the WS Trophy now and let everyone play for 2nd best......i still bet bos-DONE would finish anything but 2nd

Iggy my man, if the Yankees had every WS trophy they were picked / predicted to win over the past 10 years...your comment might actually have some traction.

But like a bald tire in a Blizzard...here we go again...thats why they play 162...

After 10 years and $200B - they have 1...

 

[lgna69xxx]

if ya wanna go that route, we have 27 and you? ........... pick another road to go down, as you will never win driving down a "dead end" especially without all season radialsl

Iggy my man, if the Yankees had every WS trophy they were picked / predicted to win over the past 10 years...your comment might actually have some traction.

But like a bald tire in a Blizzard...here we go again...thats why they play 162...

After 10 years and $200B - they have 1...

 

[Jman47]

if ya wanna go that route, we have 27 and you? ........... pick another road to go down, as you will never win driving down a "dead end" especially without all season radialsl

L e t m e g o s l o w e r .... LOL ... LAST 10 years...

 

[lgna69xxx]

Jakman,it would seem your in dire need of a sexy french tutor of the female persuasion , i said "IF YOU WANNA GO THAT ROUTE" . there are lines to be read between in that my friend, .....(pfffttt, rookie)


ps. if you do find that tutor and she's as sexy as most the ladies in Quebec, pass on her info, s'il vous plaît ..... and i'd say the Yankees have a pretty darn good winning % pertaining to WS Championships., but then again in the last 10 years, i guess all that red sox nation has is the argument that their % is better in those same said 10 years, Kudos!

L e t m e g o s l o w e r .... LOL ... LAST 10 years...

 

[Joe.t]

can you imagine Halliday, CC, Burnett,Pettitte, and either Wang/Hughes???/ ......... just send us the WS Trophy now and let everyone play for 2nd best......i still bet bos-DONE would finish anything but 2nd

It sure is going to be nice having Halliday as a number two right behind CC in the rotation, the interesting part is to see who are the Yankees going to give up for him, I'd say Hughes straight up for Halliday would be the going rate.

 

[lgna69xxx]

i heard the Jays are interested in Chamberlain? trade him and a cpl young prospects, even 3 if we have to , to get the best ever 2nd Starter in a 5 man rotation...

It sure is going to be nice having Halliday as a number two right behind CC in the rotation, the interesting part is to see who are the Yankees going to give up for him, I'd say Hughes straight up for Halliday would be the going rate.

 

[Joe.t]

i heard the Jays are interested in Chamberlain? trade him and a cpl young prospects, even 3 if we have to , to get the best ever 2nd Starter in a 5 man rotation...

I think that you just dropped 50 spots, your never going to catch the plumber at this rate.

PS- If I look at that Anna Nikova video one more time I just might drop dead, I would kill to get my hands on those gorgeous tits.

 

[lgna69xxx]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you were 100% correct JoeT, grapes did fall for it , BAWHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!.......... i guess i owe you that beer or produce Anna N for you ......... a sap is born every day

.."Halliday"...bwahahahaha. THERE IS NO "HALLIDAY" you incurable dipstick. It's either Roy Halladay or Matt Holliday. I know spelling is a picayune thing, but with two players so close in name you had better get it right or you may be trading away a lot for the wrong person. Not to mention you just look plain STUPID! And you did it twice.



Ooops...there's someone just as inept as you.

Geeeeez,

Merlot

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

It sure is going to be nice having Halliday as a number two right behind CC in the rotation, the interesting part is to see who are the Yankees going to give up for him, I'd say Hughes straight up for Halliday would be the going rate.

Yes, Halladay will look great in the Yankees rotation, right behind Dontrelle Willis, who the Yankees also acquired in one of Joe's wet dreams a few years back.

But back to reality, folks. This from Olney this morning. "Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain will come to Spring Training as starters, but the Yankees haven't ruled out a run at John Lackey, Ben Sheets, or another starter. The feeling inside the organization is that the payroll will be scaled back a bit.'

So where are they going to scale it back? Not Derek "Past A Diving" Jeter. He gets a raise from 21.6 to 22.6. Not Cheeseburger Boy, he goes from 15 to 24. They'll probably save 3-4 by signing Damon for 9-10. They'll spend Matsui's 13 and then some to replace him. They save 6.5 by waving bye-bye to Nady. Pettitte will probably cost them 3-4 more than last year. Wang will be non-tendered, saving 5. Melky's arb eligible; he'll likely go from 1.4 to 5. Cano gets a raise of 3, Swisher of 1.5.

With all this, not considering any addition for the Matsui replacement, payroll is up $7.00, without addressing the fact that they only have three starters, including Pettitte. And without addressing the fact that the team is only getting older.

If you look at the Yankee rosters of 1964 and 1965, they don't look a whole lot different. The 1964 Yankees won 99 games; the 1965 Yankees won 77. The difference? Elston Howard, Mickey Mantle, and Whitey Ford showed their age. Roger Maris was traded.

The 2009 Yankees got unbelievable performances from about 6 old players. These guys will be older next year. If the Yankees don't start to develop players, they're going to need to continue to spend like drunken sailors or the roof is going to cave in on them.

 

[Joe.t]

Yes, Halladay will look great in the Yankees rotation, right behind Dontrelle Willis, who the Yankees also acquired in one of Joe's wet dreams a few years back.

But back to reality, folks. This from Olney this morning. "Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain will come to Spring Training as starters, but the Yankees haven't ruled out a run at John Lackey, Ben Sheets, or another starter. The feeling inside the organization is that the payroll will be scaled back a bit.'

So where are they going to scale it back? Not Derek "Past A Diving" Jeter. He gets a raise from 21.6 to 22.6. Not Cheeseburger Boy, he goes from 15 to 24. They'll probably save 3-4 by signing Damon for 9-10. They'll spend Matsui's 13 and then some to replace him. They save 6.5 by waving bye-bye to Nady. Pettitte will probably cost them 3-4 more than last year. Wang will be non-tendered, saving 5. Melky's arb eligible; he'll likely go from 1.4 to 5. Cano gets a raise of 3, Swisher of 1.5.

With all this, not considering any addition for the Matsui replacement, payroll is up $7.00, without addressing the fact that they only have three starters, including Pettitte. And without addressing the fact that the team is only getting older.

If you look at the Yankee rosters of 1964 and 1965, they don't look a whole lot different. The 1964 Yankees won 99 games; the 1965 Yankees won 77. The difference? Elston Howard, Mickey Mantle, and Whitey Ford showed their age. Roger Maris was traded.

The 2009 Yankees got unbelievable performances from about 6 old players. These guys will be older next year. If the Yankees don't start to develop players, they're going to need to continue to spend like drunken sailors or the roof is going to cave in on them.

re: Austin Jackson, Matt Holliday, Roy Halladay and John Lackey,

So far one is guaranteed to be a Yankee, which ones will follow will be very interesting.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

re: Austin Jackson, Matt Holliday, Roy Halladay and John Lackey,

So far one is guaranteed to be a Yankee, which ones will follow will be very interesting.

Joe, you're a fucking moron® and your record going back is just marvelous. Yes, one of these is guaranteed to be a Yankee, but probably a Scranton-Wilkes Barre Yankee.

 

[Joe.t]

Jason Bay rejects a four year 60 million dollar offer from Boston, also is rated one of the worst
fielders in all of baseball.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/pgStory?contentId=10420794#sport=MLB&photo=10420768