i only started this a few years ago in 2022...but coming Montreal is nowhere close to being bad as the US. Both price and quality wise. Most 600usd/hr providers in the States don't do bbbj or dfk...it's insane
The Rising Cost of the Hobby and Rate Increases
- Thread starter Mandouke
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Well it is a matter of perspective. But comparing the US market to Canada is like comparing Canada to the Dominican Republic or Thailand. These are very different markets.
I have a simple trick if a SP charges too much. I just dont book her.
I disagree. Both are developed "first world" anglophone countries unlike the DR and Thailand and are certainly comparable. The US is just uniquely awful for hobbying, quite possibly the worst place on earth.
Dominican Republic and Thailand are not developed countries at all, they are more developing countries, 2nd world countries, I would go as far to say that DR is borderline 3rd world country. The thing is market prices are based on the wages of the local market. Salaries in DR and Thailand are low which is why hobby prices are low. About US, I would have to agree with you it is the most hostile place on this planet for sex work. But price wise it is similar to Australia.
I think you misunderstood my statement. I was referring to the US and Canada as both being developed anglophone countries and therefore worthy of comparison, unlike the DR or Thailand.
I looked up the prices on Scarlet blue (Indy Australia website) and was surprised to see rates similar to the US. However, the providers mostly show their faces, services including niche fetishes are discussed openly, and there is no mentioning of invasive screening. This makes it vastly, infinitely so, superior to the US market despite the similar rates.
This is actually the difference between this industry being legal in one country, and very much criminalized in the other.
2nd world country was historically used for Communist countries.
Been to Thailand several times but twice I brought “coal to Newcastle”. First a HK gf and later with my wife from an East Asian country I’d rather not name. In the islands it was common to rent a motorcycle and a girl by the day or week. Lots of twenty something Brits.
Spent time with a young woman who piloted the elephant through the Golden Triangle. Try the full body “massage”. Describes as “they massage every part of your body with every part of their body.”
Avoid the katoeys unless that’s your thing.
Great vacation spot any way.
Manila was depressingly poor. Young HK guys paid $10 for 2 women for overnights. (A factory worker earned $50/month for 6 12 hour days/week.That was a long time ago.)
Was offered “starlets” by the local companies I did business with. One “Nightclub” like a supper club, had a “fishbowl” in the back.
A room with (one-way?) glass and a dozen women in pink T-shirts with a red heart name tag with a number. Hard to forget.
Macau had them too. That was before China got it back.
Would never in the US.
Canada seems like the best of both worlds lol (USA is the worst)
low rates with AUS-tier services.
Partial criminalization (the nordic model, which is what we have here) isn't exactly "the best of both worlds". It's still flawed in many ways
$300 + an hour at some agencies. Even with the great exchange rate it’s becoming less and less desirable to come to Montreal. Hotel fees are way up, flights are still expensive, and except for a few girls, there’s nothing drawing me to Montreal that I can’t find in NYC with a little research. Lack of new talent and the increasing costs take Montreal off of my go to list for a quick weekend of sport fucking. Toronto is on my list this summer.
I go to the Dominican Republic regularly, and the prices are very high. Even though their average income is five times less than in Canada, the prices are equivalent to independent escorts here. The prices there are in US dollars, and if you want the girl to come to your hotel, you have to pay an extra US$100 for her entry. So, to have a girl in your room, it's close to 500 Canadian dollars.
The vast majority of agency girls in Montreal are actually $270-280/hr ($US 200, a pretty good deal!). Both hotels and agency rates are higher in Toronto than Montreal. So if I understand we'll, you're willing to pay more because you perceive added value in Toronto vs Montreal with respect to agency girls?
Ofcourse not. If american men could get sex easily, why would they join the military?
There is more talent in Toronto. Montreal agencies have had the same girls bounce from agency to agency for several years. Montreal’s fees will continue to rise until they price themselves out of existence. Hotel fees post Covid are similar. As far as things to do in between appointments, Toronto has a lot more going on. So yes, I am willing to pay more for Toronto at least for the coming summer so I can do a little research. Montreal used to have a lot of great restaurants, bars, clubs, etc. along with affordable talent and it was a no brainer. Post Covid, Montreal has been a consistent let down every time I visit and the increased homeless issue doesn’t help. I do perceive a better overall experience in Toronto. I hope I’m wrong, Montreal is a closer trip for me. But, I am ok with traveling a little further for some variety.
Hotel fees might be similar if you are staying near the airport or surrounding suburbs. Hotel prices in downtown Toronto are astronomical compared to downtown Montreal. Toronto does have much more talent (easily 3-4x) but they are often spread out across the greater Toronto area. Depending on where you are staying and where the provider is located that day, an Uber/Lyft ride there and back could easily exceed an hour.
