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David Dennison is such a boring name. I guess that's the point. But if you're gonna have an alter ego sex name, at least make us laugh. The best nom de bitte has to be Anthony Weiner's "Carlos Danger" or Michael Vick's "Ron Mexico."
 

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But if you're gonna have an alter ego sex name, at least make us laugh. The best nom de bitte has to be Anthony Weiner's "Carlos Danger" or Michael Vick's "Ron Mexico."

In retrospect, he should have just had fun and used "Mike Pence".

Elliott Spitzer had some fun with "George Fox"- his own close friend. Here is Spitzer's buddy's response to being used as Spitzer's nom de bitte:

https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/...spitzer-supporter-and-alias-issues-statement/
 

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Whatever, dood! Adios. Thing is, it appears even more people are poised to leave in one way or another.

Cohn finally realized that there was no longer a need for him to stick around since Trump was no longer listening to his advice anyway. But i'm guessing that all he wanted was an excuse to escape that nuthouse!

Many current & former WH staff's legal debts have been piling on because of Trump and the Mueller investigation. Every time he questions them about their testimony in front of the various investigative committees often means another meeting with Mueller's team, meaning more legal fees for them when many of them can't afford those legal fees.

So try coaxing a qualified person to join this circus, right?? Avoid at all costs!!!!!!

Hope Hicks' family had advised her about joining the Trump team last year. They were worried for her. She was way over her head (no different than Trump, i suppose) and they knew it. She finally saw the light last week after testifying in front of the Senate's investigative committee and immediately announced her resignation once she was done since she finally realized she may very likely be going to prison if Mueller catches her lying when she'll be questioned by his team. Let alone the considerable legal costs that are continuing to pile up and which will continue to pile up if she stayed near Trump.

Every day it's drama. Every day it's new drama. Every single day!!!! Every single week is a soap opera!!! The Celebrity President is the best reality tv show on television!!! By far!

p.s. Anyone watch "Our Cartoon President" on Showtime?? It's great!!!!!
 

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Yes, this whole concept of being buddies with rich, kleptocrats has been a problem long before Trump. This is obvious propaganda with a straight face. The Clintons are masters at profiting off these connections Russian, Arab, Chinese. Even the squeaky clean Bush family has profited from relationships with the Saudi royal family.

The Carl Icahn story is just some silly and lazy media sleuthing. A guy worth $17 billion is going to take insider information and sell one third of a small-cap steel user worth a whopping $31 million to make a few million???

He's in bed with Goldman Sachs? I'm confused. I thought Trump just pissed off his top economic advisor who is from Goldman Sachs (Gary Cohn) over tariffs. In fact, Goldman Sachs has been China's #1 Western bank patron for over twenty years. China is really the ultimate target on unfair trade.

This is one of my problem with politics. People can't stand back and just look at a specific policy on its own merits without bringing their emotions from party affiliation or personal dislike for a politician. Trust me on this, the Republican party establishment is not with Trump on the tariffs. Really that's all you need to know before you all go crazy.
 

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Yes, this whole concept of being buddies with rich, kleptocrats has been a problem long before Trump. This is obvious propaganda with a straight face. The Clintons are masters at profiting off these connections Russian, Arab, Chinese. Even the squeaky clean Bush family has profited from relationships with the Saudi royal family.

The Carl Icahn story is just some silly and lazy media sleuthing. A guy worth $17 billion is going to take insider information and sell one third of a small-cap steel user worth a whopping $31 million to make a few million???

He's in bed with Goldman Sachs? I'm confused. I thought Trump just pissed off his top economic advisor who is from Goldman Sachs (Gary Cohn) over tariffs. In fact, Goldman Sachs has been China's #1 Western bank patron for over twenty years. China is really the ultimate target on unfair trade.

This is one of my problem with politics. People can't stand back and just look at a specific policy on its own merits without bringing their emotions from party affiliation or personal dislike for a politician. Trust me on this, the Republican party establishment is not with Trump on the tariffs. Really that's all you need to know before you all go crazy.

This was good comedy. Apologies if humor wasn't your goal but aside from one thing, you missed the entire forest for the trees. First, I highly doubt Trump made this decision to benefit Clintons or Bushes so I'm trying to find the relevance of bringing them up.

On subject of Carl Icahn, he sold a million shares to make $31 million. The same stock he sold, Manitowoc, lost value after Trump's tariff announcement. Sure $31 million is chump change to Icahn-- yet somehow he still timed his move to divest of stocks that saved him that much. Not only is the timing good but maybe the point here is $31 million is still a lot of money even to a billionaire? The millions that Mercer & the Koch Brothers save from the new tax bill didn't stop them from asking for one despite the fact they are already wealthy beyond measure.

Even if five current or former Goldman Sachs execs joined the administration of a man who rode in on a wave of populism, I'll concede "control" is a strong word choice. That's because no one controls Trump, which is exactly why Cohn quit. That the populism wing of his administration is perhaps currently "winning" with tariffs--against the recommendation of liberal AND conservative economists--does not mean former representatives of a sector that almost sent the US into a depression did not have their seat at the table.

No one disputes China is dumping steel into the US market. The problem with Trump's impetuous tariff tantrum is that the major supplier of steel and aluminum are US allies, Canada being the biggest. We also need some of those allies for other national security reasons, like say South Korea. The initial, off-the-cuff announcement made no distinction between allies and China. And even with China, tariffs imposed by Trump's two previous predecessors on China were more harmful than helpful. Tariffs are always cutting your own nose to spite your face, which in all honesty sounds like Trump would have no problem with.

If you really care about China, then worry about how they force intellectual property to be turned over or how we owe them over a trillion dollars of the national debt. Democrats and Republicans have increased said debt and we borrow that money in part from China. At least with trade, you are getting something in return. Also, it's not unusual for countries to have trade imbalances. Canada hasn't started a campaign to fix their services imbalance with the US. Trade has never been a zero sum game; the only guy that views it so is the guy that brags about being a student of a premier business school (Wharton) but obviously never learned a lot.
 

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Here is a BBC article which somewhat amusingly recaps Trump and Kim's exchanging of assorted insults over the last year:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43339901

I feel like it's not enough to have Trump and Kim at this meeting. Seth Rogan, James Franco and Dennis Rodman should also be invited, and all 5 men should kick back with beers and watch the movie "The Interview" on Netflix. After that they can play a game of 5 on 5 basketball against their bodyguards. Once they are all loosened up, they should all shower in the locker-room and then they should have the meeting.
 

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This was good comedy. Apologies if humor wasn't your goal but aside from one thing, you missed the entire forest for the trees. First, I highly doubt Trump made this decision to benefit Clintons or Bushes so I'm trying to find the relevance of bringing them up.

If you really care about China, then worry about how they force intellectual property to be turned over or how we owe them over a trillion dollars of the national debt. Democrats and Republicans have increased said debt and we borrow that money in part from China. At least with trade, you are getting something in return. Also, it's not unusual for countries to have trade imbalances. Canada hasn't started a campaign to fix their services imbalance with the US. Trade has never been a zero sum game; the only guy that views it so is the guy that brags about being a student of a premier business school (Wharton) but obviously never learned a lot.

I was referring to the LA Times article posted by rumpleforeskin that linked the Trump family to rich, kleptocrats. The relationships that kleptocratic billionaires have with U.S. Presidents (and Western businessmen) is an issue. The article is more innuendo without an actual crime being evidenced.

Canada is not the target of Trump's trade actions. In the end, I don't think Canada will be impacted. Maybe the Canadian agriculture sector will even benefit if China retaliates against U.S. agriculture.

I'm not concerned about the tariffs and clinging to some false narrative of free trade and free markets. I find it easier to explain my view in bullet points.
- I might argue that many facets of trade between large economies are a zero-sum game.
- Many economists believe that chronic large trade imbalances run by countries like China and Germany have a destabilizing and dampening effect on global growth.
- The economists who hold on to Adam Smith and David Ricardo's classical trade philosophies haven't quite understood modern globalization and the magnitude of international trade and current imbalances.
- China has a mercantilist, investment-driven economic model where the state in one form or another supports overinvestment and the resulting overcapacity in many economic sectors.
- There's a causal relationship between U.S. trade deficits and U.S. treasury debt (fiscal debt). They are not independent. In order for China to run enormous chronic trade deficits with the U.S. year after year, they need to recycle their dollars into U.S. treasury debt. If the Chinese stopped buying U.S. treasuries with their excess Dollars, the trade deficit would shrink. They are basically financing U.S. purchases of Chinese goods, but its a two way street. It doesn't have bad consequences for the U.S. if the Chinese stop buying U.S. treasury debt. Many major nations resist the Chinese buying their sovereign debt for this very reason. Most economists know this relationship, but most journalists including business journalists do not.

Even if we can't agree on tariffs and trade, I would hope we could agree there are some powerful business groups with self-interest in mind that want to keep the status quo with China. We should also be able to agree those powerful groups can buy economists to advocate the message that benefits their businesses and fortune.
 

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It's a Stormy Affair

Now we're hearing that Stormy Daniels may have a sex tape with her and Trump in 'action'. I'm sure she has dick pics. Another angle is that he may have very well impregnated her and then forced her to undergo an abortion. All i can speculate is that it's something big & dirty! Why did he chose to silence her when he barely lifted a finger when over twenty others claimed he sexually assaulted them?
 

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A sex tape of Trump would be an even bigger deal than a sex tape of Kim Kardashian.....lol
 

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It's a Stormy Affair

Now we're hearing that Stormy Daniels may have a sex tape with her and Trump in 'action'. I'm sure she has dick pics. Another angle is that he may have very well impregnated her and then forced her to undergo an abortion. All i can speculate is that it's something big & dirty! Why did he chose to silence her when he barely lifted a finger when over twenty others claimed he sexually assaulted them?

It's all over the news down here in the U.S. I myself can't figure out where this actually goes if anywhere. It seems more titillating than anything. An MSNBC commentator's take was that these things make the President vulnerable to blackmail. Of course, she believed that is an impeachable offense. They think we are all ignorant and history started November 8, 2016. It's like Clinton getting blowjobs from a young intern in the oval office never happened. We don't even have to mention Kennedy.

All I can guess is that as this story broke and wouldn't go away, Ms. Daniels thought this can't be bad for getting booked for strip club appearances. Stormy is certainly an attractive woman, but she's up there in porn years and for the strip club circuit. Perhaps she makes a porn comeback too. The MILF genre is very hot.
 

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The real story would be that he actually impregnated her and forced her to undergo an abortion. What would be funny is discovering she gave up the kid for adoption and we find out there's another Trump child somewhere.

On another note Donald Jr's marriage is on the rocks & his wife is about to file for divorce.

As the old saying goes "the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree."

Supposedly the marriage has been in turmoil for quite some time & a large part of why is that he's supposedly never home. He & his current wife have had five children together.
 

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Trump forced Sessions to fire the deputy-director of the FBI when he had barely 26 hours left to go before retiring with a full pension.

What a fucking asshole!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 

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Dowd has expressed great love and fondness for Trump but this does not mean he has to be his attorney. Attorneys resign frequently when there is a fundamental disagreement on strategy. That’s what’s going on here.
 
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