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1) No, I apologize, but as always you missing the point and don't really understand what is being said to you.
2) The problem having read all these reviews, the worst part is that it was not sarcastic.
3) You are usually the one who doesn't understand.
4) It's the opposite, it allows me to vent my frustration.
5) Everywhere this "Jesus Christ" virus is devastating.
6) I didn't go to university in science to fill my brain, for nothing.
 
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^^^^ If you would read my post I mocked him for the minimal turn out, it just so happens to be a drive thru event.

The low turnout is because there is no widespread calling of people to show up. He limits attendance to save lives the opposite of Trump where data is showing 3 weeks after a Trump rally infections followed by hospital IC beds filling up and later deaths in states where he holds rally's which are the classic superspreader events.

It was reported even at his inauguration (which he lied about how the size of the crowd) hired some folks to show up! Yes, Trump has a 40% based that seems to be low information folks who get their news from the fox/Russian fake news sources or bots that they believe over legitimate real journalists. That is why lots of the old Fox journalists have left but it's the fake news opinion hosts vs journalists that they listen to and believe all the 30,0000 lies of Trump who lives in his own fantasy world not that of science nor intelligence.
 

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...a distinct minority of the electorate due to an antiquated system that the country has been trying to reject for centuries.

Readers Views Minneapolis Star 10/30/2020 (I grew up in Minneapolis)
ELECTORAL COLLEGE
The defect that makes the Electoral College so odious is that, excepting only Maine and Nebraska, states vote their electoral votes in a block. My suggestion: Require states to submit electoral votes in proportion, to the nearest whole vote, to the popular vote in that state. Even deep red North Dakota would be obliged to have one of its three votes go blue. Similarly, California would need to submit some Republican votes to represent the many Californians who vote that way.

The advantage of this tweak in the Electoral College is that it would require politicians to appeal to voters no matter where they reside. No more “battleground” states to be overwhelmed by politicking. No more elections decided by a few voters in a single county in Florida. Alas, this tweak would likely require a constitutional amendment, making it as hard as doing what would be best: abolishing the doggone thing altogether.
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First, the founders did not trust the electorate, even though composed of fellow white male landowners, to always make good decisions. If in the eyes of the leaders they thought a really bad decision had been made, they wanted a circuit breaker — the Electoral College.

It has been recently argued that the purpose of the Electoral College was to protect citizens from less populated regions from the tyranny of highly populated (liberal) urban centers. I’m quite sure that is not what the founders had in mind. At the time of our founding the vast majority of citizens were rural and agrarian. Our preindustrial founders had no way to anticipate the rise of cities. The last I heard it was citizens who vote, not the land.
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Chalberg’s opinion in Thursday’s Star Tribune is that the Electoral College did its job. No. In a true democracy it is not fair or just to award the presidency to the popular vote loser. He ignores the fact that far fewer people are represented by one electoral vote in Utah than in California, for example. That gives the citizens of Utah more power in the Electoral College. In my view, this is proof the Electoral College no longer works.
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Chalberg states Trump was rightly elected because his support was more widespread vs. Clinton’s concentrated support. This is as ridiculous as stating our governor should be determined by whose votes are more widespread (rural) rather than a candidate whose support is more concentrated (urban) and a greater total number.

When a state like Wyoming gets one electoral vote per less than 200,000 residents while a state like California gets one vote for every 700,000 residents, this is an unjust system that is long past serving its purpose. Whatever happened to one person, one vote? The electoral college needs to be scrapped, or the formula radically changed to reflect the will of the American voters, regardless of the states’ populations.
 

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Can someone enlighten me how would Biden fare this Covid situation any better?? Did he talk about any specific plan or he just wants to keep this wonderful plan of his to be a secret so more Americans can die, so he can blame it all on president Trump? hmmm that is kinda selfish of his dont you think??
Also, the East is so successful in controlling the situation, why cant America follow their protocols? For what I know, it would violate a bunch of human rights if done the same in America....

Biden has been very specific about both the Supreme Court "packing" that Trump did and how he would handle Covid:
Covid - no national lockdown but would call each governor of states without out of control virus and encourage them to mandate restrictions such as closing restaurants, bars etc and only has last resort business shutdown in areas of high virus concentration. For Governors that do not agree he would contact local mayors in hot spots to encourage them to have mandates.

What has worked in Asia and other places with low virus spread is very simple. Masks and social distancing. But too many in the US refuse to do so unless required due to Trump's idiotic idea that its over and as Pence said no longer going to try and control it - just let 100ks more die.

On the Supreme Court, Biden says he would have a bipartisan committee study various issues with the out of date court that is not aligned with the citizens and report back with recommendations in 180 days. That is the Biden clearly announced the proposal.

The Trump packing the Court with 3 appts (not to mention the hundreds of lower court judges) results in a Court whose views are in opposition to the vast number of US citizens on women's rights, health care, and zillions of issues. We need a Court that reflects the people, not laws from 200 years ago that do not consider changes in culture morals, and norms.
 

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A plea to Trump voters: Don’t re-elect this man
You wouldn’t accept this behavior from a teacher; why accept it from our leader?
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN • New York Times

This is my last regular column before Election Day, so what is there left to say? Instead of giving you an answer, let me leave you with a question, which I think is the question. What would you do if your kid came home from school and said:

“Mom, Dad, my teacher said President Obama ordered the killing of the U.S. Special Forces team that supposedly killed Osama bin Laden. My teacher said bin Laden is actually still alive, that the guy the Navy SEALs killed was a ‘body double.’ He also claimed that Obama’s aides got Iran to send bin Laden to Pakistan so Obama could have a ‘trophy kill.’ What’s a trophy kill? My teacher said he had heard all of this somewhere on the internet, and he just thought he’d pass it along to our class. Mom, Dad, is this true?”

I know how I’d respond. I’d immediately call the school principal and ask how someone peddling such vile and fraudulent conspiracy stuff could be teaching in any classroom in America. Who wouldn’t? It violates the most basic judgment and norms of decency that we expect of anyone teaching in public school or serving in public office.

And that is really the question Donald Trump’s voters can’t ignore: Why would you be ready to fire your kid’s teacher for passing along such disgusting nonsense but be willing to rehire the nation’s teacher in chief — our president, the man with the most-read blackboard in the world — after he peddled exactly these crazy conspiracy theories to some 87 million people on Twitter the other day? Is there anything more warped?

When NBC News’ Savannah Guthrie asked Trump why he would spread such a lie, Trump shrugged: “That was a retweet; I’ll put it out there. People can decide for themselves.”

In other words, Trump sees as part of his job as president — with the world’s best global intelligence network at his disposal — not to discredit malicious conspiracy theories, so Americans can better navigate a confusing world, but rather to spread this bile, without even asking the CIA or the FBI if it’s true. Let people sort it out for themselves, he says — as if their resources match his.

I understand that many Americans stand by Trump because of his policies on immigration, taxes, political correctness or selection of judges, or because they feel he gives voice to their grievances against elites who may look down on them. None of that resonates with me, but those are legitimate positions shared by some 40% of the country.

But our president is not just a policy robot. He’s also a role model, whether he or we like it or not. So, for all of you who plan to cast your ballot for Trump, I beg you to ask yourselves: How can you tolerate behaviors in a president that you would never tolerate in your kid’s seventh-grade teacher or babysitter?

Trump has so redefined decency down that we have forgotten what is normal, let alone optimal, in an American president. We have forgotten what it is like to have a truth-teller, a healer, in the White House, someone who starts his day with at least the inclination to unite the country and to project America at its best for the world — not someone who has lived every day in office aspiring to be president only of his base, while offering anyone at home or abroad looking to the United States for inspiration just one message: Show me the money.

So, there’s your choice in a nutshell, folks. You can vote for a president who retweets sick conspiracy theories — claiming that his predecessor murdered U.S. Navy SEALs. Or you can vote for Joe Biden, a man who, like Obama, will strive each day to make our wounds whole, and do it, I’m sure, with dignity and grace.
 

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I understand that many Americans stand by Trump because of his policies on immigration, taxes, political correctness or selection of judges, or because they feel he gives voice to their grievances against elites who may look down on them. None of that resonates with me, but those are legitimate positions shared by some 40% of the country.
You say you understand yet everything you post is contrary to that.
At least you make the statement, unlike most of the Trump haters on this board.

btw it must be a little more than 40% otherwise he would not be President even if we are going to invoke the Electoral College lament.
 

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Trump said that the death number is greatly inflated by doctors who are paid more if they declare deaths by Covid.

What a man this Donald, it's true he is completely crazy to say these stupidities.

It can be seen that he has never worked in a hospital.

Doctors have worked miracles, they have sometimes worked up to double the usual hours, some have left their lives there, and this madman comes and talks bullshit.

Yes I take it personal because I have worked all my life in the medical field.
 

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Hey, what's going on? It's been a while since Trump had innocent people teargassed so he could do a ridiculous photo op.

Then again, I guess he's been too busy holding his superspreader rallies to make sure that as many MAGA morons as possible get infected.

At least he makes sure that they get a bus ride home so that they don't have to freeze for hours after the rally. Oops, no...he doesn't bother with that, so they DO have to wait for hours in the cold.

Still, it's probably preferable to being teargassed.
 

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Trump supporters:

37% of whites with a college degree support him.
55% of whites with NO college degree support him.

How about that? It seems the more education you have, the less likely you are to fall for his insane line of lies and BS.

How about other demographics?

8% of Blacks support him. Gee, I wonder if the other NINETY-TWO PERCENT might - just might - think he's a racist?
28% of Hispanics/Latinos support him. Gee, I wonder if they feel the same as the group immediately above?
28% of people aged 18-29 support him. Great news! 72% of young American adults are not idiots.
45% of people 65 and over support him. Certainly not GREAT news but at least more than half of American seniors are not idiots.

Trump's main supporters, statistically: Older white males with little education.
 
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Trump supporters:

37% of whites with a college degree support him.
55% of whites with NO college degree support him.

How about that? It seems the more education you have, the less likely you are to fall for his insane line of lies and BS.

Trump's main supporters, statistically: Older white males with little education.

AKA, what the working class has been historically defined as. What a complete and utter insult to that class, that some how they lack the intellect to make decisions on how to vote. They built your America. Your arrogance knows no bounds.
 
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btw it must be a little more than 40% otherwise he would not be President even if we are going to invoke the Electoral College lament.

It was roughly 46% of voters in the last election. His support has stayed consistent in the low to mid 40s.
This support exists, and while a clear minority it is a large minority and should not be dismissed.
There is a significant portion of Americans who think this is a good thing. That is something that needs to be addressed when trying to move forward.

Trump's main supporters, statistically: Older white males with little education.

Yes, and that is a large group and will remain large for some time.

Come to think of it, does the Democratic Party even have a Marketing Department?

Yes, but the Democratic party has a huge disadvantage here. Nationally, the GOP has embraced being The White Party. It did that quite some time ago. That means it has an affinity access advantage here. They have identity politics on their side and they have a more homogeneous groupthink to pitch. (Not completely homogeneous but moreso than Dems.) The Dems are a wider and less-cohesive coalition. That makes coordinated messaging harder and it makes it easier for the other side to make the "they aren't like you" pitch.

The Dems definitely need to be better at message discipline, but they have some headwind that won't be easy to overcome even if they could get more media buy in to amplify the message.

AKA, what the working class has been historically defined as. What a complete and utter insult to that class, that some how they lack the intellect to make decisions on how to vote. They built your America. Your arrogance knows no bounds.

And what the working class isn't anymore. The working class is increasingly non-white but it is only the whites who are aggressively Republican. There is also a money side as well - the hardcore Trump support doesn't have a college education but does have money. The poorer you are, the more you work paycheck to paycheck, the more likely you were to vote for Clinton.
 
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Trump supporters:

37% of whites with a college degree support him.
55% of whites with NO college degree support him.

How about that? It seems the more education you have, the less likely you are to fall for his insane line of lies and BS.

There is your perfect reason why Trump was elected in the first place staring you in the face with your own words.
it is this intellectual politically correct bullshit that Americans hate, the snobbish Intellectual crap that they are faced with day in day out while they have to sweat for a living.
While this drift and divide exists in the US there will always be room for guys like Trump and next time you will get one who is more adept and experienced and will be able to exploit this bullshit leftist I am better than you attitude.
 
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Over the weekend, an overwhelming number of downtown Washington stores had their windows shielded with planks for fear of protests that would escalate on Election Day or subsequent ones.
Crews of workers were taking turns on every street corner around the office buildings of "Downtown D. C.", a sign of the nervousness that propagates the country as the election approaches.

And President Donald Trump didn't reassure by repeatedly refusing to make it clear whether he would surrender power peacefully if defeated on November 3.

Why put all these restrictions on its people?

When we win, we win with head held high

When we lose, we lose with head held high.
 

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When we lose, we lose with head held high.
Point is you didn’t.
It has been 4 years of constant belly aching, bitching and denial.
Four years of a non stop media and hate blitz against Trump that I have never seen aimed at any other President in history.
Sen, even you have nothing else except Trump, Trump, Trump on your brain.
I have never seen such a sorry bunch of losers in my life.
 

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Sen, even you have nothing else except Trump, Trump, Trump on your brain.
I have never seen such a sorry bunch of losers in my life.

Fradi,

I won't have Trump in my head, he wasn't feeding me.

Every day he says bullshit and misinformation.

If COVID didn't cause him to lose the election then I lose all my faith in humans because he could have done all the worst calamities and he would have been forgiven for everything.
 
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Every day he says bullshit and misinformation.

How is that different from any other politician running for office.
Doctors swear an oath to protect lives.
Politicians to mislead, lie, and feed you bullshit.
So far they have been keeping their promise equally well on both sides.
 
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