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Michael Avenatti now representing three more women allegedly paid off by Trump

Michael Avenatti, the lawyer representing adult film star Stormy Daniels in her lawsuit against President Trump, announced late Thursday that he is now representing three other women who claim they were paid off by the president to stay quiet about alleged affairs.

Hours after tweeting that Trump “conspired” with his longtime fixer Michael Cohen to “pay off multiple other women prior to Election Day in 2016,” Avenatti said he’d be representing the unnamed women during a panel discussion in West Hollywood with Mayor John Duran and former federal prosecutor Steve Madison, among others, ABC News reports.

He said the three women allege that they were paid by AMI Entertainment, Trump, and Cohen, though he declined to give further details on their accusations against the president. Earlier in the day, he said on Twitter that the payments appeared to have been motivated by “concern about a pregnancy.”

Avenatti now representing three more women allegedly silenced by Trump
 

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OMG, the NYT has just reported that the Trump family has fled to Moscow

July 27, 2018 12:08 PM

WASHINGTON—Bringing a tumultuous chapter of American history to an abrupt conclusion, Donald J. Trump and three of his adult children fled to Moscow today.

Accompanied by Ivanka, Eric, and Don, Jr., Trump boarded a specially chartered Aeroflot plane to take him to his new home in Moscow, a nondescript apartment building that also houses the former N.S.A. employee Edward Snowden.

Trump reportedly was in a tremendous hurry to catch the plane and left behind only a one-sentence note, reading, “THERE WAS NO COLUSION [sic].”

At the White House, Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed that the Trump family had fled to Moscow, telling reporters, “The Trump family has not fled to Moscow.”

The arrangements for the Trumps’ exit were finalized last week in the one-on-one conversation between Trump and Vladimir Putin, in Helsinki, a translator who was present during the conversation has confirmed.

According to the translator, Trump told Putin, “We’ll move to Moscow as soon as Ivanka winds down her crappy company.”

Those who witnessed Trump’s departure indicated that his wife, Melania, did not board the Aeroflot plane with him, but saw him off at the airport with a cordial “Be best.”

More to follow soon ...
 

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^^^^^ The NewYorker, Bahahahaha. Trump family packed up his family and " fled "..... wow, and some beleive this.
 

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Moscow, it makes sense, he already has plenty of red ties ...

... however, people are speculating that his ultimate destination might be Ecuador, where I understand there will soon be room enough for him.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Finally some real reporting and none of this fake news bullshit.

Yes, The NewYorker, in the same league as Onion news but some actually believe it.
 

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Cohen investigation has now led to subpoena of Trump's longtime CFO. Unlike Cohen, CFO isn't under investigation himself but I'm sure he knows many relevant details of Trump's finances. See, no need for Detective Jalimon; he'd rather be pounding pussy instead of doing boring shit like investigating Trump's taxes anyway.

You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.

If they can use Cohen or Trump's CFO to prove Russian collusion, I'm all for it. However if they drag in every one of Trump's associates and bust them for ticky-tacky legal violations only to get Trump on some minor infraction, it will be very bad and divisive for the country. If they bust him, it better be for Russian collusion or illegal activity with the Russians.

The Ken Starr investigation didn't seem to go into all this high pressure arm-twisting of every Clinton associate. I thought that was a big charade. The terrible legacy of the Mueller investigation is that we might be through malicious political motivation investigating Presidents endlessly without evidence of crimes.

I know you're real proud of this world you've built,
the way it works,
all the nice little rules and such,
but I've got some bad news.

I've decided to make a few changes.
 

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Too bad it is the washed up comedians like Samantha B ( fuck she sucks ) that are popular with the lefties. Yes, Trump does sell.
 

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In the end he did make good on his promise to improve the economy, there is not a reporter or comedian that has been collecting unemployment since his election.

Haha. You can always trust credulity in people that don't have curious minds. One quarter does not make him a maestro. This was the same guy that said the monthly job reports were fake before he won, but by the March 2017 (2 months in office) the jobs reports were suddenly very real now (Sean Spicer quoted him). Which kind of halfhead constituents actually fall for unsophisticated cons like this? (Probably the same dopes that can't read for context and thought "wouldn't" totally explained what he said in Helsinki.)

Trump deserves some credit, but when you actually delve into the details it was his policies that artificially juiced the economy this quarter. Soybeans exports were up and added to the GDP more than usual because farmers were clearly trying to get ahead of the tariffs. In other words, next quarter's numbers which will include reduced demand will also be reflected in the GDP. Consumers, as always, are the main engine powering the economy right now. Once the tariffs start hitting home with higher consumer prices, that will be reflected too.
 

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Even Trump is blinking now

by Joe Scarborough, former Republican Congressman

Like generals preparing to fight past wars, politicians constantly construct Maginot Lines to defend frontiers against dangers that no longer exist. For these self-involved politicos and pundits, the last election always seems to be the one that signaled the end of history.

Barry Goldwater’s crushing defeat in 1964 was widely believed to be conservatism’s last stand. The New York Times’s James Reston declared that the vanquished GOP nominee “has wrecked his party for a long time.” The New Yorker similarly proclaimed, “The election has finished the Goldwater school of political reaction.” And none other than James MacGregor Burns predicted that Lyndon B. Johnson’s landslide “would surely usher in a liberal epoch.”

Republicans would win the White House in six of the next seven presidential elections. What would eventually become Ronald Reagan’s revolution was launched two years after America’s most esteemed journalists declared conservatism dead.

Rick Perlstein, who gathered those fallacious forecasts for his 2001 book “Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus,” described the media’s reaction to LBJ’s landslide as “one of the most dramatic failures of collective discernment in the history of American journalism.” And yet Perlstein himself would predict in those same pages that the 21st century would be “as surely a conservative epoch as the era between the New Deal and the Great Society was a liberal one.” GOP strategist Karl Rove agreed, believing George W. Bush would usher in a permanent Republican majority.

But within a few years, Nancy Pelosi was speaker of the House, Barack Obama was president, liberals controlled Congress, and universal health-care coverage became the law of the land — which, of course, led to the tea party revolt in 2010, Obama again in 2012, right-wing Republican victories in 2014 and Donald Trump’s demolition of both party machines in 2016.

In another dramatic failure of American journalism’s collective discernment, almost no one saw President Trump coming.

“GOP insiders: Trump can’t win” blared a Politico headline over an article filled with quotes from Republican leaders such as this one: “It would take video evidence of a smiling Hillary [Clinton] drowning a litter of puppies while terrorists surrounded her with chants of ‘Death to America’ ” for the GOP nominee to win the presidency. CBS News’s Bob Schieffer reported that he could not find “a single Republican” who thought Trump could win. Even suggesting that Trump had an outside chance of beating Clinton provoked heated rebuttals and snide asides on the set of “Morning Joe.”

Trump’s stunning victory created such disorienting shock waves across Washington that neither Democrats nor Republicans understood what the accidental president admitted to me a month after his win.

“The election could have been held 20 different times, but that was probably the one day I would have won,” the president-elect said in December 2016. “Everything came together at once.”

The resulting political horror show produced daily by Trump has left journalists and politicians reeling but has failed to alter a few basic rules of politics:

First, presidents with approval ratings in the low 40s lose their majorities in Congress. Second, kowtowing to ex-KGB agents erodes support with registered independents. Third, lying about payoffs to a porn star and a Playboy model rarely helps with swing-state voters.

Like the multitude of mere mortals who faced voters before him, Trump may finally be feeling gravity’s unforgiving pull as one summer scandal bleeds into another. A recent Quinnipiac University poll put the president’s approval rating at 38 percent. More troubling for Trump’s quislings in Congress should be the political beating Midwest voters are dishing out on the politician they helped elect president. According to an NBC News-Marist poll, only 28 percent of registered voters in Michigan believe Trump deserves to be reelected, while only 30 percent of those surveyed in Minnesota and 31 percent in Wisconsin believe he deserves reelection. Republicans are also trailing badly in generic ballot tests, and Democrats’ prospects for taking over the House and Senate continue to rise.

The political news for Republicans is so bad that even Trump is blinking. Vladimir Putin will not be coming to the White House this year; the president has put major pieces of his trade war on hold and has shelved any plans to shut down the government this fall. But Republicans hoping to save themselves from the political storm that will soon wipe away their congressional majorities would be well served to speak out against Trump’s most destructive policies, which are anti-conservative, illiberal and sure to bring doom to the once-Grand Old Party.

Even Trump is blinking now
 

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Haha. This was the same guy that said the monthly job reports were fake before he won, but by the March 2017 (2 months in office) the jobs reports were suddenly very real now (Sean Spicer quoted him).

Trump deserves some credit, but when you actually delve into the details it was his policies that artificially juiced the economy this quarter.......

It's kind of silly trying to predict the third and fourth quarter. The U.S. economy has proven time and time again it's a very complicated and dynamic system. I myself don't like to cheerlead Republican policies. Frankly, not all their policies are winners. Having said that, inventories declined in Q2 and basic economics tells us that's a good thing for future growth.

As far as unemployment numbers, they became quite useless after the 2008-2009 recession. Dropping unemployment numbers reflected people leaving the workforce more that robust job creation. Wall Street and economists focus on job creation as a sign of a strong, healthy economy.

I'm not criticizing Obama or Trump. Trump has done some dumb things with the economy in my opinion. I do like him fighting back on unfair international trade.* I believe Trump has promoted liquefied natural gas (LNG) as an export and the U.S. energy sector is doing better than expected. We can argue all day about our favorite politicians, but Obama was never a champion of U.S. fossil fuel. This had the effect of holding back long-term capital investments in the industry. If you are concerned about man-made global warming, you might support efforts to hamper the economics of fossil fuels.

Lastly, I wish guys like Doc, Carmine and STN would stop their silly cheerleading and be more pragmatic.

* I think short-term trade deficits are not a problem. Large, chronic deficits are a very bad thing. The natural adjustment of trade has been stunted by mercantilist countries like China and Germany.
 

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Interesting post Sambuca

but Obama was never a champion of U.S. fossil fuel. This had the effect of holding back long-term capital investments in the industry. If you are concerned about man-made global warming, you might support efforts to hamper the economics of fossil fuels.

Fossils fuels will remain where they are if you do not exploit them now. It's like keeping money in the bank. That said. Fossil fuels necessity will disappear drastically. Might be better to focus on other source of energy now in order to be leaders in these productions of lower cost energy.

Lastly, I wish guys like Doc, Carmine and STN would stop their silly cheerleading and be more pragmatic.

True. I wish they would be more like me. Always perfect pragmatic and realistic reasoning. Well at least for those who agree with me! ;)

* I think short-term trade deficits are not a problem. Large, chronic deficits are a very bad thing. The natural adjustment of trade has been stunted by mercantilist countries like China and Germany.

USA is the greatest importer in the world because it's the richest country in the world that consumes more. Simple as that. They produce cheaper abroad, lets import. Trying to counter balance this will only affect negatively both parties. It's a lose/lose scenario.

Cheers,
 

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^^^^^^ About Canada trying to lead the way for a new energy source. It is decades away, Canada is losing 10's of billions a year not harvesting our natural resources and buying from Saudi etc. Just my opinion but that is stupid and no other country ( oil producing ) is even attempting to do that. Canada could be deficit free if from the beginning we went full out and harvested the fuck oit of our oil.
The demand for oil is going up every year and will continue for decades. BTW, I hope you all know oil is not just used to move cars.
 

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Might be better to focus on other source of energy now in order to be leaders in these productions of lower cost energy.

I don't believe alternative energies are currently lower cost than fossil fuels. This is why the Obama Administration wanted to throw a wrench in any fossil fuel development. Members of the Obama Administration were on record that their aim was to drive up the cost of fossil fuels. Another argument made on behalf of alternative energies was that the infrastructure and distribution channels were not built out. Capital costs are part of total cost. It's bad economics to think of them as artificial hurdles. Yes, fossil fuel benefits from having the infrastructure and distribution, but that was built out and paid for over many, many decades.

We are not close to running out of fossil fuel sources. I also tend to support more nuclear energy. The transition to alternative fuels will likely be evolutionary not revolutionary.
 

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^^^^^^ About Canada trying to lead the way for a new energy source. It is decades away, Canada is losing 10's of billions a year not harvesting our natural resources and buying from Saudi etc. Just my opinion but that is stupid and no other country ( oil producing ) is even attempting to do that. Canada could be deficit free if from the beginning we went full out and harvested the fuck oit of our oil. The demand for oil is going up every year and will continue for decades. BTW, I hope you all know oil is not just used to move cars.
Not perfectly true... Our oil cost more to extract and much more to refine as compare to regular light oil from Saudi. As the prices went down we were just out of competition and those 10's billions a year is a fiction. If you put more oil to sell, you bring the price down and down to the point there is no more profit. Fortunately, you are right, the demand will be there for decades and at one point we should be ready to extract and deliver it. That's why I'm for the TransMontains Project.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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No, if we take away the billions we spend on oil, the discount we have to give to the US becaue they are our only supplier we lose billions every year.
Canada's primary sources for overseas imports in 2016 were*Saudi Arabia*(11%),*Algeria*(11%),*Nigeria*(10%), and*Norway*(6%), with*Algeria*and*Nigeria*roughly doubling their shares compared to 2015. Oil also came from*Kazakhstan, the*United Kingdom,*Azerbaijan, and many other countries.Mar 14, 2018
Total cost to Saudi is 2 billion a year, do the math.
Next is our discount to the US.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Why-Canadian-Crude-Trades-At-Such-A-Steep-Discount.html

We are losing 10's of billions a year.

Show links where I am wrong instead of just saying no.
 

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Thanks STN for the very informative link that you provided. But it just confirms my points that for now we are not competitive because the quality of this dirty oil (sand), the difficulty to export it and we are captive on US to buy it because it is the only place we can deliver for now (by rail).
 

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^^^^^^^ My post ( 731 ) said that " If from the beginning" meaning from when we first started producing, we would be deficit free. We are losing 10 bilion a year if from the start we did it right and became self sufficent and built the proper pipelines. I know that now we are fucked because it is too late.
 
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