The vaccine passport (QR code), a new debate.

[Halloween Mike]

Pour un référendum, avec environ 83% qui sont déja vaccinés et seulement 17% anti-vaccins je peut déja te prédire le résultat du référendum...

First like i said above, not everyone who did got vaccinated is for vaccinal passport. Secondly i think this require more than a 51% majority. We are talking communist China measure here. Whats next? Our civilian rate? Its a thing that exist in China...

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[Fradi]

^^^^^^^
You have zero idea what it is like to live under communism so please do not try to compare anything in Canada to that.
You had no qualms about telling old people to stay the fuck home when this whole covid started so that the young can enjoy life to the fullest.
I have no problem to say stay the fuck out of restaurants bars and everywhere else non essential for anyone who refuses to get a vaccine passport.
The difference is old people couldn’t help the fact they were old, everyone however is able to get a vaccine passport.

 

[AlmostMidaged]

When you’re tongue to tongue swapping spit, the vaccine won’t mean jack shit. You can still catch covid when fully vaxed. You can still spread covid when fully vaxed. If you want to be truly safe, I’d say you need to also ask her for a recent negative covid test and provide one yourself. That’s the only way you’re really looking out for all of us... will you do that @sene5hos

 

[gallantca]

When you’re tongue to tongue swapping spit, the vaccine won’t mean jack shit. You can still catch covid when fully vaxed. You can still spread covid when fully vaxed. If you want to be truly safe, I’d say you need to also ask her for a recent negative covid test and provide one yourself. That’s the only way you’re really looking out for all of us... will you do that @sene5hos

I know Sene5hos would TOFTT. I bet he'd go as Chinese anal swab test Patron talked about.

I KID, I KID.....we all need to take a deep breath (with our masks off).

 

[sene5hos]

will you do that @sene5hos

I did it before starting the hobby again, and once after, and you?

 

[sene5hos]

I know Sene5hos would TOFTT. I bet he'd go as Chinese anal swab test Patron talked about.

No, I would never do TOFTT.

And don't bet because you'll lose

 

[Firewire]

Sorry if this has been answered already but I haven't been able to find an answer, but is Canada requiring US citizens to show proof of vaccination to enter the country?

 

[sene5hos]

Sorry if this has been answered already but I haven't been able to find an answer, but is Canada requiring US citizens to show proof of vaccination to enter the country?

Yes, they must be fully vaccinated.

 

[Like_It_Hot]

@Firewire Don't forget, Google is your friend!!!

August 9, 2021: Border changes​

Fully vaccinated foreign nationals will be allowed to enter Canada for discretionary travel on the following dates if they meet specific criteria:

• August 9: American citizens and permanent residents of the United States, currently residing in and arriving from the United States, and who qualify for the fully vaccinated traveller exemption
• September 7 (intended start date): All other foreign nationals who qualify for the fully vaccinated traveller exemption

Travellers are no longer required to book a 3-night hotel stopover when entering Canada.

• Check if you qualify for the fully vaccinated traveller exemption

Canadian Government Site: https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid?utm_campaign=hc-sc-phm-21-22&utm_medium=sem&utm_source=ggl&utm_content=ad-text-en&utm_term=entry to canada covid&adv=2122-0008&id_campaign=12663296824&id_source=122009186524&id_content=529268567240&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvO2IBhCzARIsALw3ASoqLleofm5g8cDHmX_swE6tgJEXpkHIgQV0ezNUTN3PnwuHv16ByRoaAmyyEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Halloween Mike]

PAPERS, PLEASE! Medical Tyranny Is Here - YouTube

Very interesting video from Lauren Chen. I been watching her for a while. Yes she is very conservative, she speak english, she was born in Canada but lived most of her life in China and USA but is currently in Montreal. Does i always agree with her opinions? No. But on this totally !

 

[Firewire]

@Firewire Don't forget, Google is your friend!!!

Hey who needs google when I've got you?

 

[IamNY]

Had dinner last night in NYC where the new vaccine passport law went into effect on Tuesday. Places were pretty empty. I guess all the millennials stayed home to create their fake vaccine passports. Which brings me to the reality of all this. Are we really protecting people? Anybody can photoshop a picture of someone else vaccination card and use it to get into bars. Do you really think the unvaccinated are all staying home now because of the new laws? Looks like small business owners are the ones getting hosed once again.

 

[gallantca]

Had dinner last night in NYC where the new vaccine passport law went into effect on Tuesday. Places were pretty empty. I guess all the millennials stayed home to create their fake vaccine passports. Which brings me to the reality of all this. Are we really protecting people? Anybody can photoshop a picture of someone else vaccination card and use it to get into bars. Do you really think the unvaccinated are all staying home now because of the new laws? Looks like small business owners are the ones getting hosed once again.

The system in Quebec is pretty hard to fool. Photoshop will not cut it
I am surprised NY didn't do the same. The technology is actually quite simple.

 

[IamNY]

The system in Quebec is pretty hard to fool. Photoshop will not cut it
I am surprised NY didn't do the same. The technology is actually quite simple.

Maybe it’s not so much the system but the people using it. The door girl at the bar I went to didnt seem like a highly trained vaccine passport checker. I’m curious, how do they do it in Quebec?

 

[gallantca]

Maybe it’s not so much the system but the people using it. The door girl at the bar I went to didnt seem like a highly trained vaccine passport checker. I’m curious, how do they do it in Quebec?

The government provides a phone app that the restaurant can load from Apple/Google.
The restaurant uses the app on one of their phones to scan your passport (electronic or paper).

The app verifies the passport, and put a green "OK" check and displays your name. The restaurant checks the name against another piece of ID. It's pretty simple

I did a very superficial look at excelsior and it seems quite similar

 

[gaby]

For now it's only at an experimental stage in a very few restos and bars.....with more people protesting loudly at the door.....won't b an easy task for the staff.....BUT if it's what we need...we will have better idea in September.

 

[gallantca]

For now it's only at an experimental stage in a very few restos and bars.....with more people protesting loudly at the door.....won't b an easy task for the staff.....BUT if it's what we need...we will have better idea in September.

It takes the less time than the current getting the person's name, phone number...
It's the equivalent of checking everyone's ID for age + 15 seconds. People are overblowing this part.

For a 2,000 person Festival des montgolfieres, yes. For a restaurant, no big deal.

IMO

 

[AlmostMidaged]

It’s pretty fucked up that you can travel internationally by providing a same day negative covid test, but you won’t be able to go catch a movie...

Lol. What a world!

 

[gallantca]

It’s pretty fucked up that you can travel internationally by providing a same day negative covid test, but you won’t be able to go catch a movie...

Lol. What a world

It is crazy. However passports are in their infancy. There is no reason they can't extend a passport to include a negative test. For example get a test and your passport is valid for 7 days (completely made up).

I suspect they are going to have to do this to overcome legal challenges anyways. The big question is who will pay for the tests.

 

[Halloween Mike]

It is crazy. However passports are in their infancy.

The question is... how long this nonsense will last? A year? More?

When they put that mask mandate i never taught it would go longer than a few months, maybe whole winter at worst but thats it. 1 year and a month later we still have it... wich is crazy to me. So how long this passeport thing will last? 1 year seem like probably the minimum but will it still be in action in 3 years when this virus has become part of normal life. Will we still be banned from everywhere forever? Thats the scary part in my opinion, ESPECIALLY if in 3 years there is barely any Covid and the few that there are simply are case of bad flu.

I know that for Travel its likely a life thing, because countries are more carefull about who they let enter but when it comes to domestic, i do hope we are not gonna have to do this forever. Over the concept of forcing peoples to vaccine, this is a very intrusive thing.

That said, i read that by 2025 they want to have everybody have some kind of block chain identity where they would be scanned for many things like bank accounts etc

Identité numérique pour chaque Québécois: le plus gros chantier informatique de l’histoire | JDQ (journaldequebec.com)

So could very well be that this passeport thing is simply the first step of this. And after that they call us "conspiracy theorist" when its actual reality.