Threats, insults and intimidation directed at MERB from MERC. How do we stop it?

[Techman]

Well the GT was fun on Friday night but it seems that I missed some late arrivals who dropped by after I left. Sorry to have missed Maria and the other ladies who dropped by after a number of us had left. It was nice to see some familiar faces like rumple and sapman and, of course, the ever present shijak. And the ladies of course...Athana, Yzabelle, nice to see you both again and from a distance Naomie and Chelsea were both stunning but I didn't get to say hello as they were quite occupied during the time I was there. It was a little quieter than normal but that seems to have resulted from some lies being spread in swampland.

That brings me to a really sad part of the evening. From what people were saying it seems that a couple of lowlifes from the blue zone were doing their best to scare off the ladies from attending the GT. So to counter what the lead rat, tony has been posting on the other board, he was nowhere to be found at HDLM. Not at the GT, not at the bar as he tries to claim, not anywhere at all - because I did happen to take a few walks around just to see if he was hiding in some corner like a sniveling little wuss, but neither he or his baseball bat were anywhere to be found. That was a real shame because I was hoping to see how far I could shove his bat up his ass.

Listen to me you bunch of asswipes on merc, no one gives a shit what you post or what kind of crap you try to pass off as fact. Anyone with half a brain should know by now that anything posted by the usual idiots over there should be considered to be nothing but their own fantasies. Do you seriously think anyone believes that SPs are being charged by someone, as usual - an unnamed person, to go to a GT in a bar that is open to the public? You idiots. But when you start interfering in GTs that none of you will ever have the balls to show up at just to ruin it for everyone else who wants to have a good time you're going too far. Tony, you want to show up with a baseball bat? Go for it, I'll even give you the first swing for free, but don't forget to bring photo id so that they can put your face back together when I'm done with you.

Anyone who is ever afraid of showing up to a GT, please don't be. The pussies who spread the rumours would never step out from behind their keyboards in the first place and if anyone really has any worries, I would be glad to bring along some friends to discretely provide security for the next gathering of friends, hobbyists and ladies who wish to attend. Not that any is really needed...who's afraid of smurfs anyways?

Anyhow, it was great to see everyone again and I hope that the next time we get together people will ignore the usual bs being posted by people who have nothing better to do than try to ruin a good time.

Techman

 

[gugu]

I would have loved to be meet you guys again. I could not make it.

That brings me to a really sad part of the evening.

Tech, I've been there, seen that. A guy, coco, sent a menace message to all the girls coming to the last GT in Québec a few days before. Six of them decided not to come but more then 20 came anyway. Maybe we are a bit luckier then you because we have all the personal informations on him necessary to act if needed. Of course, "acting" here means legal process.

With all due respect for you and shijak, I think you are aiming at the wrong guys here: the trolls and the cyberstalkers. You're feeding them again and you can't resist peaking at their forum to feed your own anger, doing exactly what they want.

How come nobody ever says a word about Tom, the owner, the real asshole in all of this. I have asked this to many and the only answer I get from everyone is: "oh well, he is just a simpleton. He is charming in person and he would not hurt anyone." Seriously, I have no idea why this pimp is protected by almost everyone in the business. The babes are all hos and has about him and many of you great him with a big smile at the GTs. I think he is ultimately responsable for what is going on his forum.

I have no intention of launching a new discussion on this matter here. Just food for thought.

A way to act? Simple. Vote with your dick... and wallet. I have decided to stop visiting their spounsers. I have informed Natasha, the only one of their sponsers I see occasionally, of this. She said to me she understood. I am not the only reason, but I bet you she will not renew when time comes.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I have decided to stop visiting their spounsers.

This is an excellent idea, but remember that he has another site from which he draws most of his income. Perhaps an email campaign to his advertisers there will help put this creep out of business. If each of us were to pick 10 of his advertisers and let them know a) who he is and what he does and b) that there will be a boycott of all his advertisers beginning December 1, enough of them would pull the plug to hit him where it hurts.

I'm not going to post the url of his primary source of income without mod consent, but if anyone would like it by PM, let me know.

 

[lgna69xxx]

good idea, count me in brother!, who is next?

This is an excellent idea, but remember that he has another site from which he draws most of his income. Perhaps an email campaign to his advertisers there will help put this creep out of business. If each of us were to pick 10 of his advertisers and let them know a) who he is and what he does and b) that there will be a boycott of all his advertisers beginning December 1, enough of them would pull the plug to hit him where it hurts.

I'm not going to post the url of his primary source of income without mod consent, but if anyone would like it by PM, let me know.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

good idea, count me in brother!, who is next?

I don't know what you mean by this, iggy. Remember, let's give our agency and indy friends until the first of December before we act. BTW, the lads in smurphland are taking this seriously. I've received two permanent infraction points from Tom himself for my post here from earlier today. Let's protect the girls we love by speaking with our wallets.

Their foolish noise is one thing; intimidation is another.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Is there proof that they talked Ladies into not coming to the GT? I view Techman as a credible source, and he is a great guy so i believe him, but does anyone else have proof tho? maybe some of the ladies could confirm this here or in a pm? if so i am in 100% and meant by saying "who is next" , is that who will join us here?

I don't know what you mean by this, iggy. Remember, let's give our agency and indy friends until the first of December before we act. BTW, the lads in smurphland are taking this seriously. I've received two permanent infraction points from Tom himself for my post here from earlier today. Let's protect the girls we love by speaking with our wallets.

Their foolish noise is one thing; intimidation is another.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

The good news is that the smurfs are taking this quite seriously. After my first post this morning, I received the two permanent infractions from mod9. (Mod9 addressed me by a handle I haven't used in 4 years and is obviously Tom himself, not man enough to post under his real name.) His note to me read in part, "Tom believes in free spech (sic) but your post makes it clear you no longer like MERC."

After my second post this morning, I was finally banned permanently, deemed a "troublemaker." You got it, Tom. If I can cause trouble for a bunch of misogynists who use intimidation to stop people from gathering peacefully, I'll be more than happy to.

 

[Merlot]

The good news is that the smurfs are taking this quite seriously. After my first post this morning, I received the two permanent infractions from mod9. (Mod9 addressed me by a handle I haven't used in 4 years and is obviously Tom himself, not man enough to post under his real name.) His note to me read in part, "Tom believes in free spech (sic) but your post makes it clear you no longer like MERC."

After my second post this morning, I was finally banned permanently, deemed a "troublemaker." You got it, Tom. If I can cause trouble for a bunch of misogynists who use intimidation to stop people from gathering peacefully, I'll be more than happy to.

Typical,

I hadn't read anything on Merc before yesterday in about two months since I created a name there just to tell Mod 9 (Agentleman27/Leguy) in PM with specific detail just what he is and what he could do with himself. Yesterday I read the blue stuff and saw Tony stirring crap again. No surprise Tony (2Legit) and Tom (the Wickerman) are working with Mod 9 to create inter-board sleaze to fabricate interest then silence dissent. The blueland's addiction to their brand of freedom of speech is about allowing their members to manufacture cross-board sleaze to boost business while silencing dissent by branding those members "troublemakers" (I got the same) then banning them (actually I requested closing my account).

Sadly, a few decent posters there, who are dismayed with just how much the blue board is dying because of garbage put out by the likes of Tony and Tom the Wickerman himself, are just as disgusted as us here with the general situation there.

Iggy and Rumples, just let me know what I can do.

Cheers,

Merlot

PS

Shijak, I see Tool/Ziggy doesn't offer to get out his hummer to you...lol.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I want to also thank the mods here for letting this discussion continue. I know they've intervened in the past in inter-board sniping and with just cause. This situation has gone well beyond sniping and I hope that our mods realize that we must speak up and take action when the women who are active here are intimidated by the nastiness and threats flow from the embers of Tom's dying enterprises. Thanks, guys.

 

[Mod 8]

Hello everyone,

Cross board sniping is something that we do our best to keep to a minimum as we see no benefit to this community in permitting such pointless and childish behavior. Attempting to intimidate members and providers in order to prevent them from attending a GT organized by MERB members, or as in this case a respected MERB advertiser, is completely different and it is totally unacceptable. I am making an open invitation to any provider who can confirm that such intimidation did occur to either post in this thread or if they wish to remain anonymous, they may communicate directly with either Mod 11 or myself by PM or e-mail. Rumors of such things have been brought up in the past, in particular the problems with GTs in Quebec city, and it is well past time for these people to be exposed and stopped. As long as the posts in this thread do not get out of hand, I see no reason not to allow members to let off some steam and express their opinions and feelings on the subject.

As usual, I ask every member not to claim anything as factual unless they can back it up with proof.

Mod 8

I want to also thank the mods here for letting this discussion continue. I know they've intervened in the past in inter-board sniping and with just cause. This situation has gone well beyond sniping and I hope that our mods realize that we must speak up and take action when the women who are active here are intimidated by the nastiness and threats flow from the embers of Tom's dying enterprises. Thanks, guys.

 

[gugu]

Rumors of such things have been brought up in the past, in particular the problems with GTs in Quebec city...

Thanks Mod 8. Just a small note to tell you that we are not talking about rumors for Québec City GTs. Very clear prooves were provided by pm to mod 11 by me and some threats sent to some Internet sites of providers are still online. We established very clearly that the author was coco des îles. Also, smutland administrators have refused to delete messages disclosing private informations on the GT, among others the location of the GT that we keep secret for security reasons. Agentlement is the only one who accepted to erase some information following a request from me. I guess their mod 9 can t win them all...

Of course, Montreal GTs work differently. IMHO, even if direct threats directly to providers are not proven, the problem remains. The simple fact that their cyberstalkers and trolls promise to be there is sufficient to scare some providers. Not that they are afraid of them, but they are rightly afraid of the consequences that may arise from that. DT and Elf would certainly be in danger coming to GTs. Of course, they would shit in their pants in the idea of coming and would never come. There is also the threat of sending friends to "observe" the GT and ridicule the participants. Providers and members are not all aware of everything in all of this. Many get scared for real and decide not to attend. This constitute a threat in itself and it works to some extent. This is sufficient for me to call for an action against the irresponsable administrators, and more specifically the owner of the that forum.

I said I have decided, personnally, to boycott their advertizers. It is my only mean to do something. Of course, if this is done collectively, it may have an impact. So rumple, if I can help in anyway, let me know.

 

[Yzabel Wolf]

I said I have decided, personnally, to boycott their advertizers. It is my only mean to do something. Of course, if this is done collectively, it may have an impact. So rumple, if I can help in anyway, let me know.[/QUOTE]

Je trouve que tu exagères GUGU. Je prends un peu cela comme une menace personnel en me disant, ou quand, comment je dois mettre mes annonces..N'est-ce pas une forme de despotisme ce que tu me dis là ? Merde je suis ici ou ailleur pour faire de la business pas pour me faire dire quoi faire. Je suis une femme d'affaire je vais ou cela rapporte. Boycotter les annonceurs et pis quoi encore ?? Vous allez maintenant nous interdire d'annoncer à une place parce que certains membres de ce forums vous font chier ? Nous on est pas là pour jouer à la poupée. Si j'annonce à certaines place c'est parce que cela génère du trafic. Ce n'est pas vraiment eux qui viennent me voir mais plus ceux qui visitent le site incognito. En fait souvent je préfère ne pas savoir quel nickname ils ont. Si certaines demoiselles ont eu des problèmes avec certains qu'elles le disent haut et fort.

Désolée mod mais j'ai trouvé cela un peu fort comme argument de boycotter les advertisers

 

[Mod 8]

Hello Yzabelle,

Members are free to express their opinion and to explain their reasons for such as long as they respect MERB rules. I believe that our members are able to make their own decisions about who they wish to see regardless of anyone else's viewpoint or opinion.

M8

 

[Merlot]

Je trouve que tu exagères GUGU. Je prends un peu cela comme une menace personnel en me disant, ou quand, comment je dois mettre mes annonces..N'est-ce pas une forme de despotisme ce que tu me dis là ? Merde je suis ici ou ailleur pour faire de la business pas pour me faire dire quoi faire. Je suis une femme d'affaire je vais ou cela rapporte. Boycotter les annonceurs et pis quoi encore ?? Vous allez maintenant nous interdire d'annoncer à une place parce que certains membres de ce forums vous font chier ? Nous on est pas là pour jouer à la poupée. Si j'annonce à certaines place c'est parce que cela génère du trafic. Ce n'est pas vraiment eux qui viennent me voir mais plus ceux qui visitent le site incognito. En fait souvent je préfère ne pas savoir quel nickname ils ont. Si certaines demoiselles ont eu des problèmes avec certains qu'elles le disent haut et fort.

Désolée mod mais j'ai trouvé cela un peu fort comme argument de boycotter les advertisers

I think you're exaggerating GUGU. I take it a bit like a personal threat, saying, or when, how I should put my ads .. Is not this a form of despotism that you say that? Shit I'm here or elsewhere to make the business not only to be told what to do. I am a business woman or that I will relate. Boycott advertisers and, worse yet what? You will now forbid us to announce to a place because some members of the forums you are a bitch? We are not there to play with dolls. If I announce to some place because it generates traffic. This is not really the ones who come to me but most people who visit the site incognito. In fact I often prefer not to know what the nickname they have. While some ladies have had problems with some that say loud and clear.

Sorry mod, but I found it a bit strong argument as to boycott Advertisers
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Bonjour Yzabelle,

I would respond in French, but I don't have the time right now.

To be fair, regardless of what you think of this boycott you should start with the source of the problem. I mean, why is this an issue anyway? If the members of any board want to have a GT and invite some SPs then why should any other board's members interfere? What is their reason? These GTs usually aren't exclusive to the members of any one board, especially since many clients are members of more than one board. Even I still have an old active handle on the blueboard.

So what is the reason blueland members have to poison a GT with sleazy rumors, accusations, and intimidation of escorts. That is where this all starts. Doesn't it bother you that the proposed boycott was motivated by poisonous people who made the conditions that you say will deprive you of profitable opportunities? Even if you are right about this proposed boycott, the cause of it is the real problem. None of this happens without the sleazy interference of individuals either sick...or in a position to profit from the troubles they have caused that now threaten to deprive you and other ladies of business.

Your point of view is appreciated, and noted. But dealing with this boycott does not deal with the source of your trouble. Go to blueland and ask them to stop. You will be dealing with Tom, who as the Wickerman has shilled for his own board for years and promoted cross-board bickering and sleaze to enhance his business while denying both. You will be dealing with Tony, who with Tom's blessing has been his lead shilling trouble-maker who helped create this situation, and has probably been either Tom's business partner, is a psychologically and emotionally damaged psychotic...or both?

Good luck Yzabelle.

Merlot

 

[gugu]

Menace personnelle? Où ça? Despotisme? Où ça? Interdire d’annoncer? Je n’ai jamais dit cela. Tu es libre d’annoncer où tu veux, Ysa. Et moi je suis libre de refuser d’acheter les services que je veux. Tout comme je suis libre de dénoncer les commerces qui adoptent des pratiques douteuses (dans ce cas-ci l’usage des trolls et la violence verbale pour augmenter le trafic). Tu es une femme d’affaire avisée, j’en conviens et sans doute une excellente escorte. Malgré cela, si tu décidais d’annoncer sur un forum qui permet la promotion de la pédophilie (sous prétexte qu’il y a beaucoup de traffic), tu trouverais sans doute légitime que je boycotte tes services. Il y a donc une certaine limite, tu dois en convenir.

 

[Yzabel Wolf]

Bien
Ainsi-soit-il
Je vous laisse à vos chicanes..Je vais plutôt m'occuper de mes affaires comme d'habitude.
Mais avant je voudrais des réponses

Merlot le fait de menacer mon droit d'annoncer ou je veux me fait bien plus d'effets que les poisons du monde bleu. Si les demoiselles ont été intimidées Moi je ne le sait pas. Est-ce vraiment le cas ou encore des ouies dires ? Pourquoi ont-elles étés menacées ou intimidées et pas moi ? Pourquoi certaines demoiselles plus que d'autres ? Si tu as les réponses j'Aimerais bien le savoir.
Yzabelle

 

[Bucky]

Liberté d'opinion et de choix, si c'est un moyen de faire cesser les menaces ben les annonceurs n'ont qu'a faire pression sur les mods...money talks, la mienne comme la tienne.

 

[Yzabel Wolf]

Liberté d'opinion et de choix, si c'est un moyen de faire cesser les menaces ben les annonceurs n'ont qu'a faire pression sur les mods...money talks, la mienne comme la tienne.

Oui comme tu dis c'est vrai. c'est aux annonceurs de faire pression.

 

[Yzabel Wolf]

peut-être que la façon dont tu l'as suggéré était un peu malhabile Gus désolée si je l'ai pris personnel . Je vais retirer ce que j'ai écrit..Mias comme tu peux voir quand on touche à mes droits je suis une tigresse. ;-)

 

[Man Spors]

there has to be a way to stop the verbal nonsense, rumours and personal attacks on merb with some sort of coordinated boycott.

how about a discussion of the best methods. maybe a list of hobbyists signatures ? just a suggestion