Threats, insults and intimidation directed at MERB from MERC. How do we stop it?
- Thread starter Techman
- Start date
- Status
Boycotting smurfland is a very good idea, finally we have a more practical and effective suggestion. Nobody cares about smurfland anymore and they don't have any traffic or reviews to talk about. The two main and sole contributors there have crossed many lines recently and undertook some borderline criminal activities.
For those who have been victims to intimidation, just go to a police station with as much evidence as you have and make a police report there. Some people might be uncomfortable with this idea, but believe me it is not that hard and it is a more effective way to protect yourself.
In the meantime, I am not willing to spend a penny, nor to trust any SP who is sponsoring a site condoning violence, intimidation and other criminal activities. Of course girls are free to advertise wherever they want, but they should not be offended when guys boycott their services. These girls cannot be trusted anymore.
It is time to flush the toilet and get rid of this crap site and the few germs left inhabiting it.
For those who have been victims to intimidation, just go to a police station with as much evidence as you have and make a police report there. Some people might be uncomfortable with this idea, but believe me it is not that hard and it is a more effective way to protect yourself.
In the meantime, I am not willing to spend a penny, nor to trust any SP who is sponsoring a site condoning violence, intimidation and other criminal activities. Of course girls are free to advertise wherever they want, but they should not be offended when guys boycott their services. These girls cannot be trusted anymore.
It is time to flush the toilet and get rid of this crap site and the few germs left inhabiting it.
Last edited:
Going after Tom's business? He doesn't make any money from merc, most of his advertisers there get their advertising for free because they advertise on his montreal escorts site. He'd probably save money if he closed merc because he wouldn't have to pay the hosting and bandwidth charges for it anymore. It's become a pointless board with only one purpose, attacking this board and everyone who posts on it. I just took a look over there and found Tony complaining that he had a post removed here and Ziggy bitching like a woman because I've never spent money on escorts. Well Tony, maybe you should talk to Tom about removed posts before complaining that they remove your posts here. Yesterday afternoon I looked at the blue board and read a very well written post by Quebec Love, who is Sapman here, explaining in detail why he was no longer going to post over there and what do you know...when I looked last evening, the post was gone. I don't see where he broke any rules other than he didn't kiss Tom's ass. So much for free speech. I wish he would make the same post here because it really had some good points to make. And Ziggy, I've probably spent tens of thousands of dollars on dancers during my years of clubbing. I think that gives me the right to post on a board where they have a strip club section, doesn't it? And you complain about people not starting threads to offer a counter point to the usual crap? Well Sapman just proved that when someone does start a thread like that, it just gets removed. How many other posts and threads have ended up the same way? No one is allowed to present a different or critical point of view over there because it just gets deleted by Tom. You talk about generating your own content? Maybe you should try to do that over there instead of having Benson stealing posts from this board and doing nothing but talking about what happens here instead of posting your own content. But I guess it's just easier complaining about another board than fixing the one you post on. Besides, you'd probably just get banned if you tried to do that.
Yzabelle, we've met at GTs and talked about different parts of the hobby. Well like anything else, people are judged by the company they keep, and in this case the places they advertise. Why anyone continues to advertise in that cesspool still amazes me. OK, you want to advertise on his main site because it comes up first in search engines and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's nothing stopping anyone from telling Tom to not put their banners on merc and to stay away from posting their daily ads on that board. It was only a matter of time before someone started a boycott so why waste your time advertising on a board that doesn't attract hobbyists in the first place and may end up having a detrimental effect on your business?
I haven't been spending much time on the board for the last few months because I hardly go to strip clubs anymore and the tech threads are dead so there really isn't much for me to contribute here. But after donating a lot of my time over on merc when I was part of their failed committee, a total waste of time I might add, and having my handle dragged through the crap over there even after asking Tom to stop it and basically being told to fuck off, to the point that I basically had to threaten him to drag him through the mud to get it to stop, this is giving me a reason to post here again, at least for a short time. I have a lot more to say on this and I will make a few more posts in the next few days about how 'reputable and honest' merc is. Some people may be surprised with some of the things I post and others will just shake their heads and get confirmation of what everyone can see with their own eyes if they just bother to read the garbage being posted over there.
So back to you Roland...yeah, when crap from merc crosses the line from board posting to affecting what happens when people want to get together off the boards for a bit of fun, you're damn right I'll go after his business. When posts on merc start threatening violence and intrusion into our lives away from the board, things have gone too far. If Tom won't clean up his mess then it's time to finally put this shit to rest and put merc where it belongs, a garbage dump.
Yes it is, but I think it's even more important to boycott those advertising on his other site which is where he makes his money. In fact, while he's got quite a few indies advertising there, the agencies there are almost exclusively B & S agencies preying on tourists who are not aware of merb. The pressure we need to put is on the indies and the few reputable agencies foolish enough to swim with sharks.
Hmmm,
Techman, Roland doesn't care. He's supposedly a non-hobbyist who hates seeing clients "force" the ladies to be GFE, but supports the woman-bashing misogyny that is so much of blueland. This is his ethics. I've pointed out the same issues to him and all he can say is...stop fighting with poor Tony. Expect a short childish insulting...almost a sentence out of him.
Blueland freedom of speech. Illegal actually.
Yzabel, je ne veux pas de priver quiconque de leur droit de faire des affaires. Cependant, avec le soutien de Tom, Tony a menacé l'agresse physiquement à plusieurs reprises, menacé d'exposer directement les clients sur leurs occupations, menaçait de ruiner la vie des autres à la maison avec leur famille. C'est ce que les annonceurs et les gens comme Roland et Agentleman27 soutien. Êtes-vous (yzabel) soutenir ceux qui veulent ruiner la vie de vos clients? C'est ainsi que Tom fait des affaires. Cela fait partie de la publicité sur ce site bleu. Le boycott est une réponse possible.
Yzabelle, I do not want to deprive anyone of their right to do business. However, with the support of Tom, Tony threatened physical assaults repeatedly, threatened to expose clients directly in their business, threatening to ruin others' lives at home with their families. That's what advertisers and people like Roland and Agentleman27 support. Are you (Yzabelle) supporting those who want to ruin the lives of your customers? This is how Tom (the Wickerman) is doing business. This is part of advertising on that (blue) website. The boycott is a possible answer.
Cheers,
Merlot
Techman, Roland doesn't care. He's supposedly a non-hobbyist who hates seeing clients "force" the ladies to be GFE, but supports the woman-bashing misogyny that is so much of blueland. This is his ethics. I've pointed out the same issues to him and all he can say is...stop fighting with poor Tony. Expect a short childish insulting...almost a sentence out of him.
Blueland freedom of speech. Illegal actually.
Yzabel, je ne veux pas de priver quiconque de leur droit de faire des affaires. Cependant, avec le soutien de Tom, Tony a menacé l'agresse physiquement à plusieurs reprises, menacé d'exposer directement les clients sur leurs occupations, menaçait de ruiner la vie des autres à la maison avec leur famille. C'est ce que les annonceurs et les gens comme Roland et Agentleman27 soutien. Êtes-vous (yzabel) soutenir ceux qui veulent ruiner la vie de vos clients? C'est ainsi que Tom fait des affaires. Cela fait partie de la publicité sur ce site bleu. Le boycott est une réponse possible.
Yzabelle, I do not want to deprive anyone of their right to do business. However, with the support of Tom, Tony threatened physical assaults repeatedly, threatened to expose clients directly in their business, threatening to ruin others' lives at home with their families. That's what advertisers and people like Roland and Agentleman27 support. Are you (Yzabelle) supporting those who want to ruin the lives of your customers? This is how Tom (the Wickerman) is doing business. This is part of advertising on that (blue) website. The boycott is a possible answer.
Cheers,
Merlot
Last edited:
The 2 worst offenders, bored terrorists
One of our moderators asked for concrete examples of Smurfland related people or events which led to decreased participation at the last GT. Others have posted very apt responses that the all-out misogyny, anti-provider attitude which is allowed to fester there is cause enough in itself. Add to this that some of the worst posters over there “threatened” to either attend, lurk or stalk the GT, or have their “spies” report back to them… All of which by the way is pure invention, but not everyone knows that. I have noticed it’s already a very big step for the ladies to decide to venture out to such an event, so any hint of impropriety is sure to keep them away.
I want to add to this general picture by talking about the two worst offenders over there. It is shameful the board owner and moderators over there are allowing their poisonous writings to not only continue unchecked, but any demands to have them stifled is itself stifled, Iron Curtain style (more on that later).
Tony the Troll (a.k.a. 2Legit)
I would say that Ziggy is less dangerous, but far more insidious than Tony. His posts seem to all have the same intents: to shock and draw attention to himself. He has absolutely no scruples about the collateral damage he is inflicting in the process. In fact, I suspect that he is the kind of individual who relishes the effect in the very real world of his simply posting something.
He has managed to stifle and cover with ridicule many independent escorts. I remember him writing a review about an escort he certainly did not meet, and the said review was pathetic. He gets rumors from different sources and then feeds his audience his “exclusive revelations”, when he should realize that people feeding him stuff have agendas too. He recently hinted that Maria was his little spy at the GT, when I am not inclined to believe a word of it. I am sure Maria is thankful for the way he labeled her, NOT! He is currently at war with coco-des-iles, and he is using an escort coco used to date as his weapon. The things he wrote about her are nothing short of idiotic and could put her in trouble with stupid clients who don’t know better.
He has a lot of time on his hands, a clearly talented pen and sense of wit, but all that time and intelligence is vitriolic.
These are only two of the individuals the Smurfland authorities need to rein in urgently. Theirs is no longer a review board, it is just a house of delirium tremens. Any smart lady reading them would think twice about attending an event where one or both of them would be present, and also legitimately fear what they could write about them after.
One of our moderators asked for concrete examples of Smurfland related people or events which led to decreased participation at the last GT. Others have posted very apt responses that the all-out misogyny, anti-provider attitude which is allowed to fester there is cause enough in itself. Add to this that some of the worst posters over there “threatened” to either attend, lurk or stalk the GT, or have their “spies” report back to them… All of which by the way is pure invention, but not everyone knows that. I have noticed it’s already a very big step for the ladies to decide to venture out to such an event, so any hint of impropriety is sure to keep them away.
I want to add to this general picture by talking about the two worst offenders over there. It is shameful the board owner and moderators over there are allowing their poisonous writings to not only continue unchecked, but any demands to have them stifled is itself stifled, Iron Curtain style (more on that later).
Tony the Troll (a.k.a. 2Legit)
I want to let you know I am unfortunately writing from experience. I entered the Montreal scene in early 2006, and at that time I was living in Hull, across from Ottawa. I ran across Tony on the Ottawa thread, where he proposed a meet at Pigale. I was impressed by the depth of his knowledge of the scene, but knew nothing about his past reputation. Over the next few weeks, we carpooled to Montreal several times. It was mostly pleasant and he introduced me to some girls and influential figures on the scene, all the while giving me his views. It was still all new to me and a lot of it made sense, but even then (and certainly now in retrospect) I was seeing some disturbing elements in his discourse. I eventually decided it was best to stay away from him. Here is a list of “Tony incidents” where I am directly or indirectly involved:
- I was trying to pre-book a lady I’d met once (on Tony’s recommend), and the owner of the agency told me the girl felt uncomfortable about me. I knew something fishy was up, so I asked the owner to phone the girl back with my physical description and a bit on how I receive the ladies. He phoned back to say there had been a mistake and the lady would be happy to meet me. When she arrived, we talked about this and sure enough, Tony had impersonated my name and town of origin both when booking and with the girl …
- An agency manager once told me “you will see such a girl on the roster more often now, because she landed a job at such a place downtown”. Because Tony had an interest in her, I told him (not knowing of his perfidy back then). A few weeks later he told me “that job rumor is a hoax, I’ve passed by several times and didn’t see her there”. So much for respect of privacy….
- In the summer of 2007 I started seeing an agency girl under the radar (at her proposal). I had booked through the agency at least eight times prior to this. One night right after one of our dates, I met three other hobbyists for dinner, including Tony. The girl reported to me days later that her agency owner had called her on our dates, without disclosing his sources. At first I didn’t suspect Tony because he is all about circumventing agencies, but knowing him the way I do now, I see that what he does for himself and does to others is totally different.
- “Jasper the Cleaner”, where I am portrayed as “mapman”. In a way it’s funny, the rants of a grown and obviously intelligent man, but with too much time on his hands and no human decency at all. All “information” about me in this “article” is pure fiction except the physical description (I do have large ears).
- Indiscretion: About a year ago, a well-known retired “agency turned indy” escort was visiting with me socially. She had her laptop computer with her. On a lark, we decided to start a MERB chat session, and she posted that were waiting in the chat room. Tony has a particular fascination for this person and it was no surprise he fabricated yet another fake handle to get on. The moment he logged in, he posted (on the public chat, not in a PM) “Is that you, L?” (I have changed the initial, but he was using the girl’s real initial…) Moron!
- BBFS: Tony made repeated and very clear hints about me being one of the BBFS guys. Hello?!?!? Why would I then bother buying premium condoms and always have them out when ladies visit? It is so obvious I am not into such a despicable practice that I was never offered this. Agency owners and ladies I am sure will be happy to confirm this if asked. Scumbag.
- Defamation: Tony knows who I like, hell he seems to have enough time on his hands to know who we all like… So if he wants to hit, he knows exactly how and whom to do it with. He chose a popular girl with “partying rumors” as his medium. He wrote a review of her stating they engaged in acts I know she does not do, and that is putting the girl in harm’s way just by saying it (as everyone knows, once people have read a girl did something once, they will be asked for it again and again). If, and that is an enormous if she really did this with him, he should have known by what he calls her “reading the riot act” that he just “got lucky” and like a gentleman hobbyist consider himself lucky and shut his big mouth. She refused to stay the next time she was called to his cave, anyone blame her? He has been on the rampage over her ever since, fabricating all kinds of stuff. How immature!
I remember a remark Tony made in 2006 when we were still hanging out. He said that for him, hobbying was a little akin to going out in the woods hunting with the boys. I didn’t make much of it until recently. Consider:
- Hunting pre-supposes a prey. In order to work up the nerve to kill your prey, you must first de-personalize it…
- Hunting is competitive. You always want to come out on top with bigger and better prey.
- Hunting stories with lies and exaggeration abound.
- To hunt, you have to lure your prey and be cunning, a master in the art of deception.
Anyway, enough about this sinister individual.
Ziggy Montana the Joker (a.k.a. Dissection Tool)- I was trying to pre-book a lady I’d met once (on Tony’s recommend), and the owner of the agency told me the girl felt uncomfortable about me. I knew something fishy was up, so I asked the owner to phone the girl back with my physical description and a bit on how I receive the ladies. He phoned back to say there had been a mistake and the lady would be happy to meet me. When she arrived, we talked about this and sure enough, Tony had impersonated my name and town of origin both when booking and with the girl …
- An agency manager once told me “you will see such a girl on the roster more often now, because she landed a job at such a place downtown”. Because Tony had an interest in her, I told him (not knowing of his perfidy back then). A few weeks later he told me “that job rumor is a hoax, I’ve passed by several times and didn’t see her there”. So much for respect of privacy….
- In the summer of 2007 I started seeing an agency girl under the radar (at her proposal). I had booked through the agency at least eight times prior to this. One night right after one of our dates, I met three other hobbyists for dinner, including Tony. The girl reported to me days later that her agency owner had called her on our dates, without disclosing his sources. At first I didn’t suspect Tony because he is all about circumventing agencies, but knowing him the way I do now, I see that what he does for himself and does to others is totally different.
- “Jasper the Cleaner”, where I am portrayed as “mapman”. In a way it’s funny, the rants of a grown and obviously intelligent man, but with too much time on his hands and no human decency at all. All “information” about me in this “article” is pure fiction except the physical description (I do have large ears).
- Indiscretion: About a year ago, a well-known retired “agency turned indy” escort was visiting with me socially. She had her laptop computer with her. On a lark, we decided to start a MERB chat session, and she posted that were waiting in the chat room. Tony has a particular fascination for this person and it was no surprise he fabricated yet another fake handle to get on. The moment he logged in, he posted (on the public chat, not in a PM) “Is that you, L?” (I have changed the initial, but he was using the girl’s real initial…) Moron!
- BBFS: Tony made repeated and very clear hints about me being one of the BBFS guys. Hello?!?!? Why would I then bother buying premium condoms and always have them out when ladies visit? It is so obvious I am not into such a despicable practice that I was never offered this. Agency owners and ladies I am sure will be happy to confirm this if asked. Scumbag.
- Defamation: Tony knows who I like, hell he seems to have enough time on his hands to know who we all like… So if he wants to hit, he knows exactly how and whom to do it with. He chose a popular girl with “partying rumors” as his medium. He wrote a review of her stating they engaged in acts I know she does not do, and that is putting the girl in harm’s way just by saying it (as everyone knows, once people have read a girl did something once, they will be asked for it again and again). If, and that is an enormous if she really did this with him, he should have known by what he calls her “reading the riot act” that he just “got lucky” and like a gentleman hobbyist consider himself lucky and shut his big mouth. She refused to stay the next time she was called to his cave, anyone blame her? He has been on the rampage over her ever since, fabricating all kinds of stuff. How immature!
I remember a remark Tony made in 2006 when we were still hanging out. He said that for him, hobbying was a little akin to going out in the woods hunting with the boys. I didn’t make much of it until recently. Consider:
- Hunting pre-supposes a prey. In order to work up the nerve to kill your prey, you must first de-personalize it…
- Hunting is competitive. You always want to come out on top with bigger and better prey.
- Hunting stories with lies and exaggeration abound.
- To hunt, you have to lure your prey and be cunning, a master in the art of deception.
Anyway, enough about this sinister individual.
I would say that Ziggy is less dangerous, but far more insidious than Tony. His posts seem to all have the same intents: to shock and draw attention to himself. He has absolutely no scruples about the collateral damage he is inflicting in the process. In fact, I suspect that he is the kind of individual who relishes the effect in the very real world of his simply posting something.
He has managed to stifle and cover with ridicule many independent escorts. I remember him writing a review about an escort he certainly did not meet, and the said review was pathetic. He gets rumors from different sources and then feeds his audience his “exclusive revelations”, when he should realize that people feeding him stuff have agendas too. He recently hinted that Maria was his little spy at the GT, when I am not inclined to believe a word of it. I am sure Maria is thankful for the way he labeled her, NOT! He is currently at war with coco-des-iles, and he is using an escort coco used to date as his weapon. The things he wrote about her are nothing short of idiotic and could put her in trouble with stupid clients who don’t know better.
He has a lot of time on his hands, a clearly talented pen and sense of wit, but all that time and intelligence is vitriolic.
General ideas, and a note on Smurfland's "freedom of speech"
Yesterday I posted a very polite and "to the point" open letter to Tom , explaining what I think are the problems plaguing his board currently. I am amazed that techman was able to sneak a peek, as I believe the post was allowed to exist for under a minute...
Amazing how criticism of this board merits it's own thread, is allowed unfettered. I guess Tom's perineum chafes a little more when the criticism is leveled at him
.
I really liked techman's idea about advertisers stipulating they want to be on his "advertising portal" but not his "review board". Clearly the portal has good Google positioning and that is not where the controversy is.
As for myself, I have decided not to post on Smurfland anymore no matter what they write about me. In any case, their concept of Real Men and Girly Men is so pathetic: THEY are the ones sniping from behind a keyboard.
I will limit my "Lurking visits" there as well, because I do not want to contribute to the click count.
I will talk to my hobby friends and encourage them to do the same, and I will lobby the agency managers I deal with that advertise there.
Lastly, and I feel bad about this, I will not be writing reviews of ladies who are advertised there, either as independents or though their agency.
About this "open letter to Tom": I will write Mod8 to ask permission to publish it here, since freedom of expression has been suspended in Smurfland. I think it should be allowed, since Blue is allowing much worse agenda-driven criticism to be leveled at MERB on a quasi-daily basis.
Yesterday I posted a very polite and "to the point" open letter to Tom , explaining what I think are the problems plaguing his board currently. I am amazed that techman was able to sneak a peek, as I believe the post was allowed to exist for under a minute...
Amazing how criticism of this board merits it's own thread, is allowed unfettered. I guess Tom's perineum chafes a little more when the criticism is leveled at him
. I really liked techman's idea about advertisers stipulating they want to be on his "advertising portal" but not his "review board". Clearly the portal has good Google positioning and that is not where the controversy is.
As for myself, I have decided not to post on Smurfland anymore no matter what they write about me. In any case, their concept of Real Men and Girly Men is so pathetic: THEY are the ones sniping from behind a keyboard.
I will limit my "Lurking visits" there as well, because I do not want to contribute to the click count
.I will talk to my hobby friends and encourage them to do the same, and I will lobby the agency managers I deal with that advertise there.
Lastly, and I feel bad about this, I will not be writing reviews of ladies who are advertised there, either as independents or though their agency.
About this "open letter to Tom": I will write Mod8 to ask permission to publish it here, since freedom of expression has been suspended in Smurfland. I think it should be allowed, since Blue is allowing much worse agenda-driven criticism to be leveled at MERB on a quasi-daily basis.
I must confess that I don't like this idea. If we're to have any influence on Tom at all, we have to hit him where it hurts and the advertising portal is where his money is made, certianly not on his "review" board. For my part, I will not patronize any escort or agency who might put so much as one looney of my money in Tom's greasy pocket.
On the subject of Sapman's deleted posts, I was handed two infraction points by Tom for my posts here yesterday morning. In a PM he sent to me, he wrote, in part, "Tom believes in free spech but your post makes it clear you no longer like MER -c." That canard about him believing in free speech has been shown the door.
Would it be possible for one of the mods to split this thread? I think this subject should get as much exposure as possible and many members may not bother to read it because of the title. Maybe split it from my first post on and give it a new title more fitting to the topic.
Sapman, I must have seen your post right after you made it. I had a feeling it wouldn't last long and chances are that if you try to log on again you'll discover that you've been banned. I wish I had saved it but I was having lunch and didn't have the chance. I hope you get permission to post it here because it really captured a lot of my own feelings on the matter.
Sapman, I must have seen your post right after you made it. I had a feeling it wouldn't last long and chances are that if you try to log on again you'll discover that you've been banned. I wish I had saved it but I was having lunch and didn't have the chance. I hope you get permission to post it here because it really captured a lot of my own feelings on the matter.
As per request, the posts dealing with this topic have been moved to a new thread more suitable for this discussion. I hope that exposing this problem will lead to a solution for it.
M8
EDIT: I would also like to mention that sapman99 has our permission and support to re-post his letter which was removed from merc.
M8
EDIT: I would also like to mention that sapman99 has our permission and support to re-post his letter which was removed from merc.
Last edited:
I wasn't aware of the current controversy until I read this thread.
I wonder if what is happening in this thread isn't, for the most part, exactly what the alleged miscreants from afar seek.
The whole affair saddens me. I remember the days when there was relative harmony between the members of the 2 boards and members happily posted on each.
Yzabelle makes a lot of sense.
For those advocating a boycott of the ladies trying to earn a living and don't have a dog in the fight, would you suggest a boycott of the ladies and agencies who advertise on both boards? In any battle there is collateral damage but some might argue about the virtue of deliberately seeking to deliberately harm the collaterals as a way of trying to hurt the perceived main enemy. How many Dresdens do we feel we have the moral authority to bomb?
Is it worthwhile asking ourselves WWNMD? (What Would Nelson Mandela Do? - please forgive the hyperbole.) I wonder if it might be better to fully participate on the other board and the obvious virtue of any worthy position will win the day; the lowlifes will become ignored oddities; why abandon the field to perceived lowlifes?
A modest request: if anyone feels I should be attacked personally for the opinions I express in this post please don't; just PM me and I'll remove the post immediately. Thanks
I wonder if what is happening in this thread isn't, for the most part, exactly what the alleged miscreants from afar seek.
The whole affair saddens me. I remember the days when there was relative harmony between the members of the 2 boards and members happily posted on each.
Yzabelle makes a lot of sense.
For those advocating a boycott of the ladies trying to earn a living and don't have a dog in the fight, would you suggest a boycott of the ladies and agencies who advertise on both boards? In any battle there is collateral damage but some might argue about the virtue of deliberately seeking to deliberately harm the collaterals as a way of trying to hurt the perceived main enemy. How many Dresdens do we feel we have the moral authority to bomb?
Is it worthwhile asking ourselves WWNMD? (What Would Nelson Mandela Do? - please forgive the hyperbole.) I wonder if it might be better to fully participate on the other board and the obvious virtue of any worthy position will win the day; the lowlifes will become ignored oddities; why abandon the field to perceived lowlifes?
A modest request: if anyone feels I should be attacked personally for the opinions I express in this post please don't; just PM me and I'll remove the post immediately. Thanks
It saddens you , Dee? You were one of the worst of the gang with your constant attacks on me over there and your accusations that Merlot and myself are paedophiles. You didn't have the guts to do it here so you did it there where there are no rules. And when I made a request to Tom to remove the bullshit posts you were making about me with your little 'obituary' posts he basically told me to fuck off. You ask why people don't post over there? Well ask sapman what happens when you try to post a contrary opinion over there and what happens to your post. Tom has no interest in having a quality board. He's perfectly happy to have his rejects attacking MERB. He must find it more 'fun'.
Really Roland? Can you show me the posts and threads like that here on MERB? Find me the threads here where people are dumping on the other board. Now go over there and look around for bullshit posted about us, I don't think you'll have to look very hard over there.That board seems to exist for only one reason and that is to take shots at us here. Look at Benson's posts claiming that just about all reviewers here are shills, at Tony's posts threatening to bash in heads of Merbites with a baseball bat. Go ahead and find any posts here that come even close to that.
And while you're at it over there, try to find any posts criticizing merc or the holy trinity over there. You won't find any because they are instantly removed while all the crap remains.
There is no peace to be found here as long as Tom refuses to clean up his board. I think the lunatics have run the asylum for long enough.
Techman
Dear Tom
I am very sorry to have to write this letter to you, and I do sincerely hope you take it well and understand that it is for the best.
I am afraid evolving events have made our continuing relationship untenable, and I have decided it is best if we both go our separate ways. Because I feel you meant well in the beginning, I will take the time to explain what attracted me here at first, and why this is no longer the case.
I remember the first time I came here and saw the word “Community”. I saw a smaller group, devoted and cerebral, but that knew how to have fun. I happily partook in the discussions and contributed reviews.
Back then, there was peaceful coexistence between blue and green, and members freely flowed from one place to the other, finding a little of what they needed in each place. Then something changed: where and how it started is not within my purview, but a group of either dissatisfied or banned green members slowly gelled to form a “group within a community” on MERC.
If they'd come over here to continue posting about their dates (which should be the primary focus of an escort review board), that would have been fine; but they mostly came to gripe and snipe. It has degenerated so badly that I remember this: I was sitting in a resto (let’s call it “Café Heaven”) with a buddy one day who asked me what I thought MERC was about. I replied that it was like having the resto across the street change his neon to “Café Heaven is Hell”…
This was already bad, but things got worse. Indie girls got ridiculed and silenced. Agency owners wanting a GFE standard among their staff got harassed, where in point of fact a majority of the “complainants” would negatively review a non-GFE encounter.
That much is clear: most of these people have a lot of time on their hands to read, dissect, retort, destroy and distort what their detractors have to say. Many of them are of superior intellect, which does not ennoble them by that simple fact. Viciousness, cowardice and brains combined in a member of a virtual community are disruptive, but this community has had a talent of attracting droves of these individuals.
I was posting in the GT thread about decreased advertising revenue and DT (aka Ziggy Montana) retorted “show me”: where are Devilish, GOF, Angel Escorts, Eleganza, Candy Shoppe, XXXTase, Asservissante, Tempted 2 Touch, My Montreal Models and Chloe’s Playground?
DT dares to refute reduced participation by the ladies saying that number of posts wise it isn’t true and that he generates more responses than I do: well of course the ladies feel compelled to reply to his drivel and he nothing if not prolific, so there is a lot of drivel to reply to… If he hasn’t cowed them into silence that is.
I am 99.44% sure that DT’s “thanks Maria” reference is pure invention and that he is referring to a connivance that exists only in his twisted mind.
As far as the decreased participation at GT’s, the simple fact that clowns of that ilk hinted they would attend, stalk or lurk the GT is enough to put a damper on its spirit.
By the way I really had a huge laugh lately about this Real Men versus Girly Men thing. In your world, the Real Men stalk and snipe from the comfort of home, while the Girly Men are having a good time with the ladies.
Tom, you may ask yourself “what does that have to do with me, I am only the board owner”. Well, a lot actually. You have allowed a small group of people of no ethics to hijack the board, they are troublemakers and you know it. Just take DT’s poem to Jasmine: I sure hope some crazed lurker doesn’t book her with that in mind… All his “Deep Throat” hints about this girl and that, only really meant to give himself importance. Then you have 2Legit, AKA Tony: the crazy, funny stuff is one thing, but the constant stream of lies spreading, purely vengeance and agenda driven against girls and fellow hobbyists. These two guys only live to hit “Submit” and see how many ants scatter, pathetic.
Yet you have not taken action, instead choosing to label people ringing alarm bells as the real “troublemakers”. Your business (or lack thereof), your board.
Apart from logging out of here for the last time, I have decided to take the following actions until I hear MERC is once more a true “Escort Review Community”:
· I will not even come here as a visitor to read after December 1st, as that action increases the hit count
· I will not post reviews on the other board of ladies that either advertise here or work for agencies that do
· I will encourage my other friends who have MERC accounts to come and add their thoughts to this thread and imitate my gesture
· While I will not boycott them, I will certainly take a moment to talk to each agency owner or indie advertising here about this next time we meet
I am really sorry it has come to this, but such is life. I have found a lot of joy in meeting escorts in Montreal for the last few years, and when I come here, it all seems so devious and devoid of that joy. I happen to know otherwise, so pun intended, I am moving on to greener pastures.
Goodbye and good luck…
I am very sorry to have to write this letter to you, and I do sincerely hope you take it well and understand that it is for the best.
I am afraid evolving events have made our continuing relationship untenable, and I have decided it is best if we both go our separate ways. Because I feel you meant well in the beginning, I will take the time to explain what attracted me here at first, and why this is no longer the case.
I remember the first time I came here and saw the word “Community”. I saw a smaller group, devoted and cerebral, but that knew how to have fun. I happily partook in the discussions and contributed reviews.
Back then, there was peaceful coexistence between blue and green, and members freely flowed from one place to the other, finding a little of what they needed in each place. Then something changed: where and how it started is not within my purview, but a group of either dissatisfied or banned green members slowly gelled to form a “group within a community” on MERC.
If they'd come over here to continue posting about their dates (which should be the primary focus of an escort review board), that would have been fine; but they mostly came to gripe and snipe. It has degenerated so badly that I remember this: I was sitting in a resto (let’s call it “Café Heaven”) with a buddy one day who asked me what I thought MERC was about. I replied that it was like having the resto across the street change his neon to “Café Heaven is Hell”…
This was already bad, but things got worse. Indie girls got ridiculed and silenced. Agency owners wanting a GFE standard among their staff got harassed, where in point of fact a majority of the “complainants” would negatively review a non-GFE encounter.
That much is clear: most of these people have a lot of time on their hands to read, dissect, retort, destroy and distort what their detractors have to say. Many of them are of superior intellect, which does not ennoble them by that simple fact. Viciousness, cowardice and brains combined in a member of a virtual community are disruptive, but this community has had a talent of attracting droves of these individuals.
I was posting in the GT thread about decreased advertising revenue and DT (aka Ziggy Montana) retorted “show me”: where are Devilish, GOF, Angel Escorts, Eleganza, Candy Shoppe, XXXTase, Asservissante, Tempted 2 Touch, My Montreal Models and Chloe’s Playground?
DT dares to refute reduced participation by the ladies saying that number of posts wise it isn’t true and that he generates more responses than I do: well of course the ladies feel compelled to reply to his drivel and he nothing if not prolific, so there is a lot of drivel to reply to… If he hasn’t cowed them into silence that is.
I am 99.44% sure that DT’s “thanks Maria” reference is pure invention and that he is referring to a connivance that exists only in his twisted mind.
As far as the decreased participation at GT’s, the simple fact that clowns of that ilk hinted they would attend, stalk or lurk the GT is enough to put a damper on its spirit.
By the way I really had a huge laugh lately about this Real Men versus Girly Men thing. In your world, the Real Men stalk and snipe from the comfort of home, while the Girly Men are having a good time with the ladies.
Tom, you may ask yourself “what does that have to do with me, I am only the board owner”. Well, a lot actually. You have allowed a small group of people of no ethics to hijack the board, they are troublemakers and you know it. Just take DT’s poem to Jasmine: I sure hope some crazed lurker doesn’t book her with that in mind… All his “Deep Throat” hints about this girl and that, only really meant to give himself importance. Then you have 2Legit, AKA Tony: the crazy, funny stuff is one thing, but the constant stream of lies spreading, purely vengeance and agenda driven against girls and fellow hobbyists. These two guys only live to hit “Submit” and see how many ants scatter, pathetic.
Yet you have not taken action, instead choosing to label people ringing alarm bells as the real “troublemakers”. Your business (or lack thereof), your board.
Apart from logging out of here for the last time, I have decided to take the following actions until I hear MERC is once more a true “Escort Review Community”:
· I will not even come here as a visitor to read after December 1st, as that action increases the hit count
· I will not post reviews on the other board of ladies that either advertise here or work for agencies that do
· I will encourage my other friends who have MERC accounts to come and add their thoughts to this thread and imitate my gesture
· While I will not boycott them, I will certainly take a moment to talk to each agency owner or indie advertising here about this next time we meet
I am really sorry it has come to this, but such is life. I have found a lot of joy in meeting escorts in Montreal for the last few years, and when I come here, it all seems so devious and devoid of that joy. I happen to know otherwise, so pun intended, I am moving on to greener pastures.
Goodbye and good luck…
One of the posters has one post out of every 40 posts EVER posted on that board, only in his current incarnation. And no, it's mostly about an irresponsible board owner who has let a minority of posters run roughshod over everyone else....
Free speech? FREE SPEECH!!! ON MERC??? Please, don't make me laugh so much that I go into convulsions. WHAT free speech? Did you read the post that Sap just posted above? That post was removed from merc. There's no free speech there. Why do you think I got banned over there? Because I had the nerve to criticize things. There's no free speech there. If you believe that, you're as delusional as the rest of them. You say you respect the way that board is run? Well, Roland, I think I just lost whatever respect I had left for you if you actually mean that.
Dee, thanks for your thoughtful and well considered response here. The answer is quite simple: the ladies and agencies stop advertising on Tom's venues. Or Tom puts a stop to the malfeasance. Or Tom simply closes merc down.
As for participation on the other board, that is no longer possible. It is as Ziggy himself describes "a cesspool." It is no longer a review board. It is a dank dark cellar where cowards hide behind their keyboards and try to outwit each other in a battle of misogynist gibberish. Any attempt at rational discourse is met with mindless scorn.
Those participating in the boycott make it absolutely clear. We will not support Tom the Snake and will not allow our money to pass through your hands to him. Those to whom we will no longer give business can get us back simply by pulling their ads from Tom's sites.
Are you serious? GG, apparently now departed from merc, is/was a sad pathetic a figure, more riddled with complexes and contradictions than Hamlet. Ollie is a misogynist's misogynist. He is Gollum to GG's Hamlet, to Tony's Richard III, to Ziggy's Saruman.
The rantings of these two lowlifes are of interest to you? Gawd.
Last edited:
Right,
If you can act decently and write like a man without the cheap name-calling there is no problem. If you get banned it's because YOU are lacking in many ways. In other words...just grow up Roland.
Still playing the innocent hypocrite. So you were not aware of the issues that created the "current contorversy", and you long for the old "harmony" between boards. Here is a sample of how you significantly helped create the current enmity between boards. This is one of your gentler posts on the subject:
It was YOU Dee who made another post accusing both Techman and I of being pedophiles that caused me to confront blue Mod9 and tell him to either deal with the slander or close my account. Of course since Tom uses such despicable tactics as yours purposely to generate business. I knew my demand would result in my account being closed, and it was immediately, as was my intent since it was clear the end result was guaranteed regardless.
You are a fraud, a shady crap-disturber. You never post on Merb except during these cross-board controversies, and always pretending to be a innocent peace-maker when you are actually
just a lying hypocrite and one of the main causes of inter-board feuding, which you don't have the guts to openly pursue here.
Did you read Sapman's posts here? Are you telling us all that you somehow, with your blue board access, missed the ugly threats your pal Tony has made endlessly over the years? Are you saying you did not see Dee's sick accusations? Are you saying you never knew Tom was posing as a member called the Wickerman and shilling for his own board? Or are you saying that in your powers of comprehension you have not noticed the perpetual malicious intent published in blueland where you have every access to see everything any time you want. You forget that I know your access there, and if you can come here and imply you don't understand the problem then you are as deceitful as anyone there in blueland. Like Dee you only post here to defend indefensible acts while feigning either innocence or ignorance.
How are those tomatoes?????
Well, I know about Roland from his own mouth face to face. He's played plenty of games too...and believes in them.
Sapman, sadly the details of your posts come as no surprise at all. That is the tragedy, that every word rings so true. Sadder still, I expect such sickness from Tony. Ziggy is truly tragic.
Merlot
If you can act decently and write like a man without the cheap name-calling there is no problem. If you get banned it's because YOU are lacking in many ways. In other words...just grow up Roland.
Still playing the innocent hypocrite. So you were not aware of the issues that created the "current contorversy", and you long for the old "harmony" between boards. Here is a sample of how you significantly helped create the current enmity between boards. This is one of your gentler posts on the subject:
It was YOU Dee who made another post accusing both Techman and I of being pedophiles that caused me to confront blue Mod9 and tell him to either deal with the slander or close my account. Of course since Tom uses such despicable tactics as yours purposely to generate business. I knew my demand would result in my account being closed, and it was immediately, as was my intent since it was clear the end result was guaranteed regardless.
You are a fraud, a shady crap-disturber. You never post on Merb except during these cross-board controversies, and always pretending to be a innocent peace-maker when you are actually
just a lying hypocrite and one of the main causes of inter-board feuding, which you don't have the guts to openly pursue here.
Did you read Sapman's posts here? Are you telling us all that you somehow, with your blue board access, missed the ugly threats your pal Tony has made endlessly over the years? Are you saying you did not see Dee's sick accusations? Are you saying you never knew Tom was posing as a member called the Wickerman and shilling for his own board? Or are you saying that in your powers of comprehension you have not noticed the perpetual malicious intent published in blueland where you have every access to see everything any time you want. You forget that I know your access there, and if you can come here and imply you don't understand the problem then you are as deceitful as anyone there in blueland. Like Dee you only post here to defend indefensible acts while feigning either innocence or ignorance.
How are those tomatoes?????
Well, I know about Roland from his own mouth face to face. He's played plenty of games too...and believes in them.
Sapman, sadly the details of your posts come as no surprise at all. That is the tragedy, that every word rings so true. Sadder still, I expect such sickness from Tony. Ziggy is truly tragic.
Merlot
Last edited:
Would you care to extent a little bit your thoughts on that. Is free speech any speech? Threats go through speech. If they don t go further, it OK? Freespeech allow them?
- Status
Similar threads
