Towards the presidential run of 2024

[Zoe_Sixxx]

You still don’t get it do you.
Yes she has every right to say and chose who ever she wants to back it is not about that at all.
It is about having a bit of common sense and not putting a target on yourself.
I responded to a comment made that Trump is endangering her by saying he hates her.

It is not Trump who is endangering her what did you expect him to say that he loves her, but her own stupidity of not keeping her mouth shut, with the amount of crazies and guns out there it doesn’t take much for one of them to get pissed off enough at her. If you cannot understand that well it’s on you,

So basically - everyone should keep their opinion to themselves for fear of violence? Sounds like you're victim blaming to me. Should women also not be in public without a burka and male escort for fear of being raped?

Perhaps instead of the symptoms, we should be more concerned with the cause - Trump and stochastic terrorism. Why that guy isn't in jail is a mystery.

 

[Fradi]

So basically - everyone should keep their opinion to themselves for fear of violence? Sounds like you're victim blaming to me. Should women also not be in public without a burka and male escort for fear of being raped?

Perhaps instead of the symptoms, we should be more concerned with the cause - Trump and stochastic terrorism. Why that guy isn't in jail is a mystery.

You really do need everything explained to you several times.
Taylor Swift is not just anyone she is a very popular celebrity with millions of fans and visible in the media constantly so she has many that love her and admire her and she can sway and as a result will have many haters as well and endorsing a particular candidate is all it may take to set one of these crazies off.

This was all triggered by the comment that Trump is endangering her, no it is her and her mouth alone that is endangering her, and it has nothing to do with the fact that she has every right to speak out like any other citizen, it is simply a fact that she is not an ordinary citizen.

She would be at risk had she endorsed Trump instead of Harris.

Wtf you are talking about with burkas and all that bs I have no idea.
I love and respect all women and have had nothing but kindness from them all my life.

 

[Womaniser]

You really do need everything explained to you several times.
Taylor Swift is not just anyone she is a very popular celebrity with millions of fans and visible in the media constantly so she has many that love her and admire her and she can sway and as a result will have many haters as well and endorsing a particular candidate is all it may take to set one of these crazies off.

This was all triggered by the comment that Trump is endangering her, no it is her and her mouth alone that is endangering her, and it has nothing to do with the fact that she has every right to speak out like any other citizen, it is simply a fact that she is not an ordinary citizen.

She would be at risk had she endorsed Trump instead of Harris.

Wtf you are talking about with burkas and all that bs I have no idea.
I love and respect all women and have had nothing but kindness from them all my life.

Did Taylor Swift tell that she hated Trump ? I don't remember.
She told that she supported Harris and Trump reacted like a 5 years old jalous rotten child !

 

[Fradi]

Did Taylor Swift tell that she hated Trump ? I don't remember.
She told that she supported Harris and Trump reacted like a 5 years old jalous rotten child !

No she loved him that is why she endorsed Harris Lol.
Of course Trump reacted like that did you expect a different reaction you think Taylor Swift should have expected a different reaction knowing Trump.
When will you learn that politicians are dishonest corrupt egotistical assholes only interested in power, money and their own ego.

 

[Fradi]

The problem is that none of you can be objective about anything and when you see someone having a different opinion then you automatically consider him an enemy,
Let me set the record straight for you.

I don’t like Trump I think he is an egotistical asshole a corrupt and horrible human being.
I completely disagree with his stand on abortion I believe a woman has a right to determine what she does with her own body and when her life is in danger.
I disagree with him on gun control also. I would ban all military type automatic weapons that are designed for nothing else except killing as many people as possible within minutes.

I don’t like his stance on Medicare I think Trump is full of shit and has no plan and never had. Obama care may not be great but it is better than any other one the Republicans have come forward with

I don’t like Harris because I think she is a cackling fool who changes her stance all the time and I don’t think any other world leader would take her seriously and the US would be laughed at just like under Biden.

To me they are both horrible candidates and the US could do far better.

Who is better for the economy and immigration for me Trump is.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Trump is a better choice than Harris on economy and immigration but I don't believe in a lesser of evils analysis when a third choice is available and is not evil, which is why I will vote for Chase Oliver.

 

[Fradi]

Trump is a better choice than Harris on economy and immigration but I don't believe in a lesser of evils analysis when a third choice is available and is not evil, which is why I will vote for Chase Oliver.

Problem is that third choice has as much chance of winning as you or me and I am not a US citizen.

 

[Zoe_Sixxx]

You really do need everything explained to you several times.
Taylor Swift is not just anyone she is a very popular celebrity with millions of fans and visible in the media constantly so she has many that love her and admire her and she can sway and as a result will have many haters as well and endorsing a particular candidate is all it may take to set one of these crazies off.

This was all triggered by the comment that Trump is endangering her, no it is her and her mouth alone that is endangering her, and it has nothing to do with the fact that she has every right to speak out like any other citizen, it is simply a fact that she is not an ordinary citizen.

She would be at risk had she endorsed Trump instead of Harris.

Wtf you are talking about with burkas and all that bs I have no idea.
I love and respect all women and have had nothing but kindness from them all my life.

I'll explain he burkas reference. You're basically saying that Swift should be quiet because of crazies and bullies. It's the same logic that some people use regarding rape - "She shouldn't dress that way because a person might rape her" is no different than "She should shut up because she might get attacked for her opinion". You're giving all the power to the crazies and bullies and saying that she should "cover-up" her opinions for fear of how others will react.

Every celebrity (women especially) are always at risk, regardless of what they do or don't say. By remaining silent she would be "letting the terrorists win".

 

[Zoe_Sixxx]

The problem is that none of you can be objective about anything and when you see someone having a different opinion then you automatically consider him an enemy,
Let me set the record straight for you.

I don’t like Trump I think he is an egotistical asshole a corrupt and horrible human being.
I completely disagree with his stand on abortion I believe a woman has a right to determine what she does with her own body and when her life is in danger.
I disagree with him on gun control also. I would ban all military type automatic weapons that are designed for nothing else except killing as many people as possible within minutes.

I don’t like his stance on Medicare I think Trump is full of shit and has no plan and never had. Obama care may not be great but it is better than any other one the Republicans have come forward with

I don’t like Harris because I think she is a cackling fool who changes her stance all the time and I don’t think any other world leader would take her seriously and the US would be laughed at just like under Biden.

To me they are both horrible candidates and the US could do far better.

Who is better for the economy and immigration for me Trump is.

No idea where you're getting the idea that Trump would be better for the economy. The guy wasn't a billionaire, he just played one on TV. He's so bad at business that he managed to bankrupt a casino (maybe multiple? I know he's declared bankruptcy on at least 6 of his businesses). You have to be really fucking bad at business to fail at running a casino. But perhaps he never intended it to be successful. More likely it was just a money laundering front. Within the first 1.5 years they were hit with 106 violations of the anti-money laundering rules. I wonder how much of that laundered money was going to/from Russia.

FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations | FinCEN.gov

www.fincen.gov

 

[Fradi]

I'll explain he burkas reference. You're basically saying that Swift should be quiet because of crazies and bullies. It's the same logic that some people use regarding rape - "She shouldn't dress that way because a person might rape her" is no different than "She should shut up because she might get attacked for her opinion". You're giving all the power to the crazies and bullies and saying that she should "cover-up" her opinions for fear of how others will react.

Every celebrity (women especially) are always at risk, regardless of what they do or don't say. By remaining silent she would be "letting the terrorists win".

I am not giving power to anybody.
What you need to do is accept reality of life.
Her celebrity of being known the world over and her talent the very thing that allows her all the luxury and fame is the one that is also endangering her when she takes a stance on something so hotly disputed as the US presidential elections.
Nobody gives a shit or knows who you are or who I am but crazies always want to make a name for themselves and have their 5 minutes of fame.
In reality it doesn’t matter which side she endorses there are enough crazies on both sides to put her in danger.

Why you are bringing rape and burkas and shit like that into it is on you. This is not the place for it, you want to discuss that by all means open a thread on it and I will be more than happy to give you my opinion.
It is way different than making a political endorsement.

 

[Fradi]

No idea where you're getting the idea that Trump would be better for the economy. The guy wasn't a billionaire, he just played one on TV. He's so bad at business that he managed to bankrupt a casino (maybe multiple? I know he's declared bankruptcy on at least 6 of his businesses). You have to be really fucking bad at business to fail at running a casino. But perhaps he never intended it to be successful. More likely it was just a money laundering front. Within the first 1.5 years they were hit with 106 violations of the anti-money laundering rules. I wonder how much of that laundered money was going to/from Russia.

FinCEN Fines Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort $10 Million for Significant and Long Standing Anti-Money Laundering Violations | FinCEN.gov

www.fincen.gov

You are comparing someone’s personal life with that of a countries economy.
Ever heard of apples and oranges.
It is impossible to discuss anything of value with someone as biased as you.
You run off on ridiculous tangents that have no relevance what so ever to the topic.
With that I am done.

 

[Zoe_Sixxx]

You are comparing someone’s personal life with that of a countries economy.
Ever heard of apples and oranges.
It is impossible to discuss anything of value with someone as biased as you.
You run off on ridiculous tangents that have no relevance what so ever to the topic.
With that I am done.

The majority of Trump's platform is based on him being a good business man.
But whatever, you've given up. Guess I win? There's not much point to these online debates, is there?

P.S. - sorry I was so biased against the convicted rapist (I know, it was "ONLY" civil court, not criminal. lol)

 

[Zoe_Sixxx]

I'm Canadian, but have family in California. They're all doing fine last time I checked.
I'd much rather have a "cackling idiot" leading America than convicted rapist Donald Trump. Hell, I'd rather have Moo Deng or the Hauk Tuah girl running America than Trump. Maybe it's just me, but I personally think rapists should be in jail, not running for office.
I find it hilarious that people get so hyperbolic about this stuff - "the ruin of our country". People have said that about every single candidate ever. Still hasn't happened.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Here is a link to bodycam video of the arrest of the Trump would be assassin by the Secret Service. He was compliant and apparently did not prefer the "death by cop" scenario favored by many psychos:

Donald Trump latest: Trump shooting attempt suspect was near golf course for 12 hours, FBI says

Ryan Routh, 58, was earlier charged with federal gun crimes having allegedly been seen with a rifle at the former president's golf course

www.bbc.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

Musk Being Investigated For Comments on Presidential Assassins:

Secret Service 'aware' of Elon Musk post about Harris and Biden

The tech tycoon has deleted the post about assassination attempts on the president and vice-president, saying it was a joke.

www.bbc.com

 

[TigerWould]

Every media outlet ?

Sorry, 90%

 

[gaby]

...plus de 70% of our trade is with the US......any economic decision/US can have an impact here/Canada......and what about our proximity in sports and our neighbourly ties.....yep these elections matter a lot for us....

 

[Womaniser]

Musk Being Investigated For Comments on Presidential Assassins:

Secret Service 'aware' of Elon Musk post about Harris and Biden

The tech tycoon has deleted the post about assassination attempts on the president and vice-president, saying it was a joke.

www.bbc.com

Musk is proving that a genius businessman can be a miserable and idiot politician !

 

[Womaniser]

Sorry, 90%

Perhaps 90 % prove something !

 

[EagerBeaver]

...plus de 70% of our trade is with the US......any economic decision/US can have an impact here/Canada......and what about our proximity in sports and our neighbourly ties.....yep these elections matter a lot for us....

And Trump is trying to protect you from the Chinese, yet you bite the hand that is feeding you like an ungrateful dog.