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Jazzman1218

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There was nothing Presidential from either candidate during that debate.
Trump was being his usual arrogant asshole self attacking Harris the whole time and Harris was acting as a troll baiting him sometimes successfully.
Neither offered anything of substance policy wise or to make the American public choose them.
Again two horrible candidates neither of which Americans should be proud of and both proved it during that debate.
Even if that's true, and i don't accept that it is, one of these two will be the next POTUS. You can hate them both, but that doesn't solve for who will lead the country, and the free world, into the future. I trust Harris over trump. She will move forward with the people; he wants to go backwards and is only concerned about himself.
 

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But at the end of the day voters should only care about one thing:
Were you financially better off 2016-2020 or 2020-2024. That's it, that's all. Fuck everything else.
I disagree. There's more than just one thing to care about in electing a POTUS. Money isn't everything afterall, but to some it is, I guess. A thoughtful voter will remember that trump inherited a strong economy that he weakened with tax cuts for the rich and tariffs. Whereas biden inherited an economic mess and COVID. Further, it was a worldwide economic mess from which the US economy has recovered better than other countries.
 
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But at the end of the day voters should only care about one thing:
Were you financially better off 2016-2020 or 2020-2024. That's it, that's all. Fuck everything else.

So according to you the President and Vice-President control everything that happens in all countries plus the climate, etc. !
Why Trump didn't keep COVID to enter USA ?
They are more powerful than God ?
 
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It's not about supporting Trump. It's about having my own point of view, not listening to media. I call it like I see it. 2016-2020 were much better years in the US and in the world. Facts are facts. I'm in Canada we have our own left wing Liberal idiot. I wouldn't want to see that in the US that's all.
 

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So why bother with elections if the president doesn't control "everything"?
I assume you are being facetious. Why do we elect our leaders? Because that's what happens in a self-governing democracy. "government of the people, by the people, for the people" to quote Abe Lincoln. I'd be happy to explain the beauty of an egalitarian form of government with three equal branches if you'd like.
 

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I disagree. There's more than just one thing to care about in electing a POTUS. Money isn't everything afterall, but to some it is, I guess. A thoughtful voter will remember that trump inherited a strong economy that he weakened with tax cuts for the rich and tariffs. Whereas biden inherited an economic mess and COVID. Further, it was a worldwide economic mess from which the US economy has recovered better than other countries.
''Money isn't everything afterall, BUT TO SOME ITIS''.......right on.....for TROMP that's only thing matters.....he cares for himself only....the rest is just pure MANIPULATION/BULLYING/LIES to make even more money.... this is the story of his life.....period.
 
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''Money isn't everything afterall, BUT TO SOME ITIS''.......right on.....for TROMP that's only thing matters.....he cares for himself only....the rest is just pure MANIPULATION/BULLYING/LIES to make even more money.... this is the story of his life.....period.
Sadly, so many republicans care mostly about money and power. Their lust for money and power is disturbing and distracts from the beauty of the simple, magnanimous, and good life.
 
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Honestly I think they are the main threat moving forward, there’s no such thing as real journalism anymore instead they should be officially labelled as Democratic fake news propaganda all these people working for big corporate media are useless democrat activists occupying the most fake/useless jobs.

Eight years ago the one man they couldn’t manipulate got elected against all odds and since then the situation have reached such a level of insanity that I think is most likely irreversible.

It’s now implanted into the white sheep Democrats DNA’s that being conservative is taboo, Trump is Evil, He is a threat to democracy, Biden is top shape, Kamala is the best and Taylor Swift forever.
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Honestly I think they are the main threat moving forward, there’s no such thing as real journalism anymore instead they should be officially labelled as Democratic fake news propaganda all these people working for big corporate media are useless democrat activists occupying the most fake/useless jobs.

Eight years ago the one man they couldn’t manipulate got elected against all odds and since then the situation have reached such a level of insanity that I think is most likely irreversible.

It’s now implanted into the white sheep Democrats DNA’s that being conservative is taboo, Trump is Evil, He is a threat to democracy, Biden is top shape, Kamala is the best and Taylor Swift forever.View attachment 79605

The same with fake news on the Trump side !
Remember the man who tell lies every two phrases.
In the last debate, he made at least 34 false claims in 45 minutes !
Do you think that FoxNews reported that ?
In your dreams !
 

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The same with fake news on the Trump side !
Remember the man who tell lies every two phrases.
In the last debate, he made at least 34 false claims in 45 minutes !
Do you think that FoxNews reported that ?
In your dreams !
It just took you under 30 seconds to make a false claim and I could not care less about FoxNews by the way.
What a coincidence I was just talking about useless people.
 
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Jazzman1218

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Honestly I think they are the main threat moving forward, there’s no such thing as real journalism anymore instead they should be officially labelled as Democratic fake news propaganda all these people working for big corporate media are useless democrat activists occupying the most fake/useless jobs.

Eight years ago the one man they couldn’t manipulate got elected against all odds and since then the situation have reached such a level of insanity that I think is most likely irreversible.

It’s now implanted into the white sheep Democrats DNA’s that being conservative is taboo, Trump is Evil, He is a threat to democracy, Biden is top shape, Kamala is the best and Taylor Swift forever.View attachment 79605
There is real and credible journalism being conducted everyday. However, because it reveals what trump and the MAGA movement is lying about with their attempts to destroy democracy, the far-right considers the truth to be fake. It is not. In case anyone has forgotten, trump lied about the results of the 2020 election, tried to overturn a legitimate election that he lost, tried to invalidate the votes of 81 million Americans, and illegally hold on to power. If that's not anti democratic, I don't know what is.
 

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Teamsters Declines to Endorse Harris
It can be considered a surprise when organized labor doesn't endorse the Democratic candidate, but they see what we all see: a demonstrable lack of leadership.

This is a loss of crucial working class voters in Battleground states, but it's an appropriate and deserved loss for Harris, and a sort of pyrhhic victory from Trump, in the sense that they did not endorse her.
 
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There is real and credible journalism being conducted everyday. However, because it reveals what trump and the MAGA movement is lying about with their attempts to destroy democracy, the far-right considers the truth to be fake. It is not. In case anyone has forgotten, trump lied about the results of the 2020 election, tried to overturn a legitimate election that he lost, tried to invalidate the votes of 81 million Americans, and illegally hold on to power. If that's not anti democratic, I don't know what is.
Litteraly nobody cares about the far-right and the threat to democracy lunacy and you bet everyone has forgotten… do you wanna know why? It’s very simple since 2020, Americans are struggling like never before and it’s the same or worse in Canada.
The economy is completely fucked, kaput, hardworking people can’t afford food, they can’t afford housing and they can’t afford put fuel in their car to go working at a 40$/h salary that feels like borderline poverty.
Everything is wrong right now there is no other way to put it, the rich are a lot richer and everyone else is struggling someone has to answer for that. Leaders like Biden, Harris, Trudeau and Freeland have done a lot of wrong they allowed the bullshit to happened and now we have to clean the bullshit.
 
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Sadly, so many republicans care mostly about money and power. Their lust for money and power is disturbing and distracts from the beauty of the simple, magnanimous, and good life.
Democrats also lust for money and power. Usually the wealthy are voting for Democrats.
 

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There is real and credible journalism being conducted everyday. However, because it reveals what trump and the MAGA movement is lying about with their attempts to destroy democracy, the far-right considers the truth to be fake. It is not. In case anyone has forgotten, trump lied about the results of the 2020 election, tried to overturn a legitimate election that he lost, tried to invalidate the votes of 81 million Americans, and illegally hold on to power. If that's not anti democratic, I don't know what is.
Mainstream media in general is biased based on its political affiliation. I would take news with a grain of salt. The far-left spreads lots of lies, the perfect example is the covid pandemic, what we saw the last two years is the perfect example of McCarthyism. Look at Trudeau, he is a compulsive liar. This statement is not by any means I support Trump because I do not and he is not much better.
 

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Teamsters Declines to Endorse Harris
It can be considered a surprise when organized labor doesn't endorse the Democratic candidate, but they see what we all see: a demonstrable lack of leadership.

This is a loss of crucial working class voters in Battleground states, but it's an appropriate and deserved loss for Harris, and a sort of pyrhhic victory from Trump, in the sense that they did not endorse her.
They have a choice and that is to endorse Chase Oliver. They got to see beyond the two party system.
 
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