Trump 2nd Impeachment trial

[gaby]

Yep so true....anyway kudos again to House Impeachment Managers for an extraordinary job ...devant une vraie Cour et un vrai jury IMPARTIAL la preuve serait écrasante et le verdict de culpabilité unanime....MAIS là---malheureusement--ce n'est
qu'un minable tribunal POLITIQUE avec de pitoyables jeux de coulisse mêlés à des ambitions personnelles égocentriques sans limite...un univers factice coupé de la réalité....désolant ....les REPUBS vont payer très cher ce comportement irresponsable et odieux
pour des années à venir......my 2 cents.

 

[Bbw hunter]

GOP is supposed to mean : Governement Of the People. Now it means Government Of the Pitiful.

GOP stands for Grand Old Party. Nice try though.

 

[purplem]

At least some Republicans can acknowledge reality (not Many, but SOME):

The GOP senators likely to vote for Trump's conviction (msn.com)

 

[The Nature Boy]

there’s nothing grand about this mate

And especially this

 

[sene5hos]

Rep. David Cicilline, D- R.I., spoke Feb. 10 as House Democrats made their case for why the Senate should convict former President Donald Trump on a charge of inciting insurrection during the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump was impeached by the House in January, while he was still in office.

Cicilline argued that those who were close to the former president — including his family members, advisors, and members of Congress — begged him to “do something” about the violence on Jan. 6, but Trump refused. (like a baby, terrible 74)

“What is clear -- what we know without any doubt -- is that from the very beginning, the people around Donald Trump lobbied him to take command,” Cicilline said on the Senate floor, adding that Trump instead chose to do “nothing” despite having “the power” to stop the violence.

Trump in addition to having a mental illness, he lost his brain.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Read up, more wasted time just like the last 4 years of journalism.

Feb. 10, 2021 at 1:03 p.m. EST
Even before the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump began this week, the outcome was generally understood: Once again, he will almost certainly not be convicted, with the overwhelming majority of Republican senators choosing to acquit him on the charge passed by the House.
The math is fairly simple in the abstract. Conviction requires a two-thirds majority of the Senate to agree — 67 votes — meaning that 17 of the 50 Republican senators would need to agree with the charge offered in the House’s article of impeachment. That article passed the House on a historically bipartisan vote, with 10 Republicans joining the Democratic majority in supporting it. But that’s only about 5 percent of the party caucus in the House, the equivalent of two Republican senators joining the Democrats in the Senate vote. Two, as you’re probably aware, is fewer than 17.

 

[Fradi]

What is impeachment?​

The Constitution permits Congress to remove presidents before their term is up if enough lawmakers vote to say that they committed “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Seeing as Trump is no longer in office what is this really about.
A dog and pony show by Democrats to discredit the Republican Party, have their politicians make speeches cry a few crocodile tears in front of cameras and waste millions upon millions of tax payers money.
Basically a political farce like all others where politicians are promoting their own goals and trying to secure power for the future vote, none of which has anything to do with trying to unite the country and thinking of their citizens well being.

 

[EagerBeaver]

There aren't enough votes to convict so it seems like this entire proceeding is a waste of time. Jurors in the real world are not supposed to predetermine how they decide a case, but that seems to have already happened- openly. For there to be a meaningful trial you would probably need to find jurors who aren't registered Republicans or Democrats who can also sit and listen to evidence and then vote, but of course that can't happen under the constitution. So this whole charade is a waste of time and an abomination of Justice. What it's an example of is the stupidity of partisan politics.

 

[purplem]

If it's a waste of time, it's because the corrupt Republicans will fail to do their duty, just as they failed in Trump's first impeachment trial...thereby setting the stage for his total mishandling of the pandemic, as well as the violent, treasonous attack on American democracy and the murder of Officer Sicknick by a crazed group of typically gullible right-wing lunatics seeking to steal an election for their lying, disgraced hero.

Even though the corrupt Republicans will almost certainly once again betray their nation by failing to see that justice is done, it is crucial to hold the proceeding so that intelligent Americans (in other words, NOT the far-right crazies) and HISTORY can have further evidence of Trump's dishonesty and cowardice...as well as the dishonesty and cowardice of his Republican enablers.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Amazes me how one group can not tolerate another group so wants legal action, be it Trump, statues, cartoons, books, street names whatever. If they do not like it it has to be banned so no one else can enjoy it, total intolerance. Do you not realize if everyone just be quiet and let him leave it would be over sooner, this prolongs it and nothing else ( plus cost taxpayers millions and a waste for time while more important matters can be solved ).

 

[Fradi]

Finally Trumps lawyer used the proper word for all of this BS proceedings Hypocrisy.
He clearly showed similar speeches of claims of the election being stolen in 2016 and the ”enticing“ of American to “fight “ for their right.

Basically if you are going to take the words of any politician seriously or you want them totally accountable for their words then there aren’t enough prisons to hold all of them for the lies and the hypocrisy of their actions, being a Democrat or Republican is of no relevance, how many have flip flopped between their allegiance, wasn’t Trump a Democrat in the past.
This whole Impeachment process is a total comedic farce showing how stupid people are to let this kind of bullshit go on and them footing the millions of dollars it costs.
It just proves my belief that politicians are the number one scumbags in the world.

 

[Fradi]

Even though the corrupt Republicans will almost certainly once again betray their nation by failing to see that justice is done, it is crucial to hold the proceeding so that intelligent Americans (in other words, NOT the far-right crazies) and HISTORY can have further evidence of Trump's dishonesty and cowardice...as well as the dishonesty and cowardice of his Republican enablers.

Intelligent Americans, joke of the century I believe.
If I look at it from your view point these intelligent people elected Trump.
From my view point they allow these BS proceedings to go on costing them millions upon millions of dollars while people are dying on their streets, do you think perhaps these elected officials could be somehow just al little more productive saving lives instead of making bs speeches to gain favour for the next vote.
Intelligent American you have got to be kidding, unfortunately we are not much better here.

 

[sene5hos]

Amazes me how one group can not tolerate another group so wants legal action, be it Trump, statues, cartoons, books, street names whatever. If they do not like it it has to be banned so no one else can enjoy it, total intolerance. Do you not realize if everyone just be quiet and let him leave it would be over sooner, this prolongs it and nothing else ( plus cost taxpayers millions and a waste for time while more important matters can be solved ).

This is what I wanted to write "(plus cost taxpayers millions and a waste for time while more important matters can be solved)".

But from everything he's done since November 03 that I don't think "if everyone just be quiet and let him leave it would be over sooner".

 

[Womaniser]

This is what I wanted to write "(plus cost taxpayers millions and a waste for time while more important matters can be solved)".

But from everything he's done since November 03 that I don't think "if everyone just be quiet and let him leave it would be over sooner".

This trial is not to remove him but to keep him or another narcissist autocrat to do what he did.
Very simple to understand for me.

 

[Fradi]

This trial is not to remove him but to keep him or another narcissist autocrat to do what he did.
Very simple to understand for me.

And how exactly is this farce going to do that, can you explain.
Has it changed your life any, do you now have a better life, can you now put more food on the table, can you send your kids to a better school.
Yes you can feel good along with the three Musketeers and the collective TDS is being fed a little more.
They have now impeached him twice and he has been acquitted once and will be again.
Apart from costing tax payers a shit load of money and wasting everybody’s time what else has it achieved.
Oh yes I forgot it has achieved a milestone and a record of having the first President impeached twice.
Perhaps the Republicans can now try to break that record in the future, at least now they have something to shoot for.
The real loser here is always the same the tax payer.

 

[Womaniser]

And how exactly is this farce going to do that, can you explain.
They have now impeached him twice and he has been acquitted once and will be again.
Apart from costing tax payers a shit load of money and wasting everybody’s time what else has it achieved.
Oh yes I forgot it has achieved a milestone and a record of having the first President impeached twice.
Perhaps the Republicans can now try to break that record in the future.
The real loser here is always the same the tax payer.

Perhaps they hoped that Senate Republicans would respect their oath to the Constitution instead of their oath to their Guru.

 

[Fradi]

Perhaps they hoped that Senate Republicans would respect their oath to the Constitution instead of their oath to their Guru.

These flowery words achieve nothing, what I have seen sadly is one party will use everything at its disposal to discredit the other.
Oaths, Constitution, etc... mean absolutely zero to these scumbag politicians they are just weapons to use against each other on both sides, it is all about power and money.

 

[The Nature Boy]

So this whole charade is a waste of time and an abomination of Justice. What it's an example of is the stupidity of partisan politics.

It sure is a charade. It would be awesome if they change rules @‘last minute and do secret ballot, lol!

 

[IamNY]

Respecting oaths, republicans, keeping other presidents from doing the same, etc. is not something that is achieved by an impeachment. Impeaching a president, if found guilty, simply removes him from office. That’s it.

A better argument IMHO would be to challenge the laws of impeachment so that any president (not just Trump) wouldn’t be able to do something in his last month in office that is criminal only to get away with it because he had already “left the office”. But as far as what is happening now, under the current laws of impeachment, he’s already left the office. It should have never been rushed through Congress. The US has enough issues right now with the cancel culture and further dividing Americans that this impeachment is just adding fuel to the fire for all the wrong reasons. This takes away from what our elected officials should really be focusing on like vaccines, jobs, etc.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Perhaps they hoped that Senate Republicans would respect their oath to the Constitution instead of their oath to their Guru.

Do you not follow all the previous shit some Democrats have done? In your books maybe nothing but if Trump did them you would be outraged.