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Doc Holliday

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Yes there is a reason to complain and discuss and that process should never stop, it is what freedom and improvement is all about, unfortunately too many here take it for granted and don't know how to appreciate it.

I agree. But just watch when President-for-Life Donald Trump will order his army-of-deplorables to make life miserable for all citizens with ethnic backgrounds and everyone else who hasn't had nice things to say about him, including all comedians, reporters, media types and political rivals including even Republicans. Beware, beware, beware!
 

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Yes there is a reason to complain and discuss and that process should never stop, it is what freedom and improvement is all about, unfortunately too many here take it for granted and don't know how to appreciate it.

Discussion and due process is something that should never stop. It's supposed to be a core of American Democracy. As we've seen some want it stopped whenever it's against their views. That's dictatorship.

As to Kellyanne Conway. It's hard to see why she would go against Rump's preferences because she seems to do what she is paid for regardless of her personal views. Would it be too strange if the opinion she gave was some way he was backing off Romney. He is that twisted.
 

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Discussion and due process is something that should never stop. It's supposed to be a core of American Democracy. As we've seen some want it stopped whenever it's against their views. That's dictatorship.

As to Kellyanne Conway. It's hard to see why she would go against Rump's preferences because she seems to do what she is paid for regardless of her personal views. Would it be too strange if the opinion she gave was some way he was backing off Romney. He is that twisted.

Or maybe she is just doing her job. Trump may have asked her to say exactly that in order for him to have a reason not to give the job to Romney, without fully committing himself. One way to avoid all other republicain who want Romney there...

Cheers,
 

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Ummmm.... he was also a murderer and horrible human being to his own people. Torture, murder, etc.... yea real great guy :rolleyes:


I know Doc, you are in character lol...so you get a pass mon ami ;)

Sure, El Presidente wasn't perfect. But he faced a lot of adversity and challenges as Cuban leader. He also survived hundreds of assassination attempts. .
 

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I have observed first hand the phenomenon described in this article since the election of Donald Trump. And I didn't even vote for Trump (or Hillary)!

When progressives value politics over friends and family

by Dennis Prager
Posted on Nov. 22, 2016 at 10:44 am

A troubling pattern appears to be developing in America that good people of all political persuasions need to be aware of — and hopefully then do something to change it.

According to news reports and numerous callers to my nationally syndicated radio show, many people — it is, of course, impossible to know exactly how many — have ceased communicating with friends and even family members who voted for Donald Trump.
It is so common that The New York Times published a front-page article headlined “Political Divide Splits Relationships — and Thanksgiving, Too” on the subject.

The article begins with three stories:

“Matthew Horn, a software engineer from Boulder, Colo., canceled Christmas plans with his family in Texas. Nancy Sundin, a social worker in Spokane, Wash., has called off Thanksgiving with her mother and brother. Ruth Dorancy, a software designer in Chicago, decided to move her wedding so that her fiancé’s grandmother and aunt, strong Trump supporters from Florida, could not attend.”

The Times acknowledges that this phenomenon is one-sided:

“Democrats have dug in their heels, and in some cases are refusing to sit across the table from relatives who voted for President-elect Donald J. Trump. ... ”
A number of people who voted for Trump called my show to tell me that their daughters had informed them that they would no longer allow their parents to see their grandchildren. One man sent me an email to report that his brother-in-law’s mother told him that she “no longer had a son.”

Back in December, The Washington Post had already reported on this:

“Sites from Mic to Quartz to Buzzfeed have published how-tos on blocking Donald Trump news and supporters from your Facebook News Feed. ...

“In the past week alone, thousands of Facebook users have publicly promised to unfriend each and every Trump supporter in their network, regardless of — in the words of one Trump critic — ‘how long I’ve known you or how close we are.’ ”

All of this raises an obvious question: Why is this phenomenon of cutting off contact with friends and relatives so one-sided? Why do we not hear about conservatives cutting off all contact with friends and relatives who supported Hillary Clinton? After all, almost every conservative considered Hillary Clinton to be at least as ethically and morally challenged as Donald Trump. And most believed that another four years of left-wing rule would complete what Barack Obama promised he would do in 2008 if he were elected president — “fundamentally transform the United States of America.”

In other words, conservatives were not one whit less fearful of Hillary Clinton and the Democrats than Democrats were of Donald Trump and Republicans.
Yet virtually none cut off contact with friends, let alone with parents, who supported Clinton.
Why not?


Here are my unsettling answers:

1. While there are kind and mean individuals on both sides of the political spectrum, there are more mean people on the left than on the right. What other word than “mean” would anyone use to describe a daughter who banished her parents from their grandchildren’s lives because of their vote? (Actually, I can think of one more: “despicable.”)

2. There are far more conservatives who read articles, listen to and watch broadcasts on the left, and studied under left-wing teachers, than there are progressives who read, listen to or watch anything on the right, or took classes with conservative instructors. Therefore, most people on the left — like our universities — shut out conservative ideas. And increasingly, conservative friends and relatives as well.

3.Most left-wing positions are deeply emotion-based. Therefore, it makes sense that people who hold those positions would react so emotionally when their candidate lost as to sever relations with people they previously cared for or even loved.

4. Most people on the right think that most people on the left are wrong. Most people on the left think that most people on the right are evil. Decades of labeling conservative positions as “hate” and conservative individuals as “sexist,” “intolerant,” “xenophobic,” “homophobic,” “racist” and “bigoted” have had their desired effect.


5. The left associates human decency not so much with personal integrity as with having correct — i.e. progressive — political positions. Therefore, if you don’t hold such positions, you lack decency.

6. Most individuals on the left are irreligious, so the commandment “Honor your father and mother” means nothing to those who have cut off relations with parents because they voted for Trump.
I wish this were not the case. But there is a way to prove me wrong.

Re-friend your friends and relatives who voted for Trump and tell everyone who has ended relations with family members — especially parents — to reach out to them and allow them back into their lives.
 

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David Petraeus

Considering he resigned after admitting sharing confidential information with his lover & mistress (Paula Broadwell), it may be difficult for him to get approved by the Senate. I have no doubt he'd be qualifed for the job, but will the Trump administration start giving the appearance of being a military junta with so many former generals in key cabinet positions?
 

Doc Holliday

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Trump is scheduled to have dinner with Mitt Romney today. People are suggesting that Mr. Romney bring along a food taster. Just in case.

In other news, The Tweet President who knows nothing about the Constitution and FREEDOM tweeted this morning that people who burn flags should either get a year in prison or lose their citizenship.

Even right-winger Justice Scalia stated publicly that people who want to burn flags are protected by the First Amendment. But it's probably true Drumph wouldn't know this since he rarely reads. And they say his youngest son may be autistic??? I say b.s. on that. It's simply a case of the apple not falling too far from the tree.
 

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I asked one of the open liberal minded women I work with if she knows where I could get a Melania Trump love doll.

Turns out she is not so open minded.
 

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And that has to do with Castro how??? I said he was a murderer and evil human being which he WAS but that has what to do with anyone else? We were talking about c-ASS-tro.

Duh, i suppose the United States never murdered or tortured people either. :rolleyes:
 

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What I was trying to say is that an American President would never be able to get away with in the US what Castro did to his own people.
You are smart enough to understand that, but if you want to keep in character and twist things to achieve a laugh or reaction, no problem.

You sound like you believe no american president ever imprisoned or killed americans.
 

Doc Holliday

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And that has to do with Castro how??? I said he was a murderer and evil human being which he WAS but that has what to do with anyone else? We were talking about c-ASS-tro.

And i'm talking about any other American President. Especially George W. Bush & his evil sidekick Dick Cheney, who tortured people and are directly responsible for the murder and maiming of hundreds of thousands of innocents.

Not only did Bush and Cheney commit acts of war, but they certainly committed crimes against humanity. It would have taken Castro 500 years in power to even catch up to them. Probably more.

And you'll love to hear this, but i could include President Obama to that group. He's killed many innocents with his drones. It's called collateral damage. In 9/10 of drone strikes, they didn't even know who they were killing. The United States has become quite a killing machine over time. And it continues to kill as we speak. And then people make a big deal out of Castro??? Very hypocritical if you ask me.
 

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AGAIN,

And this has to do with Castro how??? I said he was a murderer and evil human being which he WAS but that has what to do with anyone else? We were talking about c-ASS-tro.


And i'm talking about any other American President. Especially George W. Bush & his evil sidekick Dick Cheney, who tortured people and are directly responsible for the murder and maiming of hundreds of thousands of innocents.

Not only did Bush and Cheney commit acts of war, but they certainly committed crimes against humanity. It would have taken Castro 500 years in power to even catch up to them. Probably more.

And you'll love to hear this, but i could include President Obama to that group. He's killed many innocents with his drones.
 

Doc Holliday

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AGAIN,

And this has to do with Castro how??? I said he was a murderer and evil human being which he WAS but that has what to do with anyone else? We were talking about c-ASS-tro.

This thread is about Trump. TRUMP. Why do you obsessively keep posting about Castro in a TRUMP thread??

p.s. If you insist on talking about Fidel Castro, show me the proof that he was a murderer and 'evil' human being. You probably read this on the fake news sites that you so enjoy following. :D
 

lgna69xxx

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ROFLMAO! I could ask you the same question as to why you went off topic when you blame others for putting down your hero, cASStro

Obsessive is 2 posts? Trust me my friend, you have the patent on the word Obsessive :pound:

PS... I have decided what i will spend the $100 you owe me for losing the election bet. I will be donating it to a good cause. You should follow it up by donating another $100 for thanking me for not taking your extra $100 bet the last day of the election, since you would have lost it anyways.

Let's just say the ladies of VIP-10 will have some nice prizes from me VIA the good Dr. and no they wont be harveys or a&w cards either :lol:
This thread is about Trump. TRUMP. Why do you obsessively keep posting about Castro in a TRUMP thread??
 

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Trump has just announced he will not be prosecuting HRC, after all. Anyone with a normal brain knew he wouldn't prosecute her. I mean, prosecute her for what? For things she was already cleared by the FBI? For things who will look minuscule compared to what Trump will do during his presidency?

I'm curious which promises those who voted for him expect him to fullfill. The Wall? HRC's prosecution? Destroying ISIS? Shipping all illegal aliens and their families back to their respective homelands? Lowering all Americans' taxes? Getting rid of Obamacare? Draining the Swamp from lobbyists? Reducing lenght of terms for those having to serve in congress?

By the way, i'd be surprised if any of our American friends in this thread who have supported Trump even bothered to vote. Can't blame you actually, i'm not sure i'd be willing to wait in line for hours in midweek just to vote. Plus, considering HRC now has over 1.5 million more votes than Trump (and counting), why bother voting if your vote isn't even counted like it should be?

silly... white people don't wait in lines to vote... that's for minorities...
 

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I'd like to add something to my prior post.....

America has the monopoly over the number of its own citizens it imprisons. No other country comes close to this. When it comes time to put its own people in prisons, especially black people, America is the clear leader by far on the entire planet!!!

God bless America!! God bless the land of the free! :amen:
 
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