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Ten year reunion at VIP-9?
Of course. It's all good, buddy. I don't take anything that is said in this thread personally. That's why my elders always told me it's never good to discuss religion & politics, or else all hell breaks loose! When's the last time we met up? Ten years ago maybe? It's been a long time, but always good times! :D
 

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TRUMP WRECKING REPUBLICAN CHANCES:

Donald Trump's GOP civil war

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/republicans-us-election/
Major GOP Donors Are Asking Trump for Their Money Back

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/major-gop-donors-are-asking-trump-their-money-back-n664661

Don't be surprised if the Republican Party splits after this election, and Trump is responsible for bringing the party to this situation.
 

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New Ohio poll puts Hillary Clinton ahead of Donald Trump by 9 points after news of Trump's vulgar talk

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/10/new_ohio_poll_puts_hillary_cli.html

Very critical here. Ohio is one of the biggest swing state prizes and usually the toughest and closest to call. If the poll is accurate it will indicate the effect of Trumps vulgarity and the 2nd debate on voting across the nation.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Democrat Hillary Clinton has a 9-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Ohio following the news of Trump's vulgar talk about women and after the second debate between the candidates, according to a statewide poll released today by Baldwin Wallace University in Berea.

Clinton leads Trump, 48 percent to 38 percent, with 14 percent unsure, in a direct match-up, the poll found. When the two minority party candidates are added to the mix – as they are on state ballots -- Clinton leads by 9 percent, 43 percent to 34 percent.
 

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Nate Silver's site has some great statistical info about the election and good political chat.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/

The Republican party as a national entity is in rough shape and may continue to be so for some time. But on a local and state-wide level they are actually still very strong. Gerrymandering efforts have left them with a majority of governerships and control of local legislature in many individual states.
 

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Look behind you.
What are you Clinton supporters going to celebrate if Clinton wins, that Trump lost or that Clinton is the president? Cheering that Clinton is the president is just wrong, cheering that Trump lost is OK.
 

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What are you Clinton supporters going to celebrate if Clinton wins, that Trump lost or that Clinton is the president? Cheering that Clinton is the president is just wrong, cheering that Trump lost is OK.

I'm not a Clinton supporter. I'm a Trump hater. And when he'll lose, i'll be a wealthier man since a popular merbite will owe me money. ;)\

p.s. Note to all: I haven't lost a single bet in 3 years. So be warned if you ever intend to bet with me.
 

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More Sexual Assault accusations against Trump

Physically Attacked by Donald Trump – A PEOPLE Writer’s Own Harrowing Story

by Natasha Stoynoff

In December 2005, People Writer Natasha Stoynoff went to Mar-a-Lago to interview Donald and Melania Trump. What she says happened next left her badly shaken. Reached for comment, a spokeswoman for Trump said, “This never happened. There is no merit or veracity to this fabricated story.” What follows is Stoynoff’s account.

“Just for the record,” Anderson Cooper asked Donald Trump, during the presidential debate last Sunday, “are you saying…that you did not actually kiss women without (their) consent?”

“I have not,” Trump insisted.

I remember it differently.

In the early 2000’s I was assigned the Trump beat for PEOPLE magazine. For years I reported on all things Donald.

I tracked his hit show The Apprentice, attended his wedding to Melania Knauss, and roamed the halls of his lavish Trump Tower abode. Melania was kind and sweet during our many chats, and Donald was as bombastic and entertaining as you would expect. We had a very friendly, professional relationship.

Then, in December 2005, around the time Trump had his now infamous conversation with Billy Bush, I traveled to Mar-a-Lago to interview the couple for a First Wedding Anniversary feature story.

Our photo team shot the Trumps on the lush grounds of their Florida estate, and I interviewed them about how happy their first year of marriage had been. When we took a break for the then very-pregnant Melania to go upstairs and change wardrobe for more photos, Donald wanted to show me around the mansion. There was one “tremendous” room in particular, he said, that I just had to see.

We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat.

Now, I’m a tall, strapping girl who grew up wrestling two giant brothers. I even once sparred with Mike Tyson. It takes a lot to push me. But Trump is much bigger—a looming figure—and he was fast, taking me by surprise, and throwing me off balance. I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.

The butler informed us that Melania would be down momentarily, and it was time to resume the interview.

I was still in shock, and remained speechless as we both followed him to an outdoor patio overlooking the grounds. In those few minutes alone with Trump, my self-esteem crashed to zero. How could the actions of one man make me feel so utterly violated? I’d been interviewing A-list celebrities for over 20 years, but what he’d done was a first. Did he think I’d be flattered?

I tried to act normal. I had a job to do, and I was determined to do it. I sat in a chair that faced Trump, who waited for his wife on a loveseat. The butler left us, and I fumbled with my tape recorder. Trump smiled and leaned forward.

“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” he declared, in the same confident tone he uses when he says he’s going to make America great again. “Have you ever been to Peter Luger’s for steaks?

I’ll take you. We’re going to have an affair, I’m telling you.” He also referenced the infamous cover of the New York Post during his affair with Marla Maples. “You remember,” he said. “Best Sex I Ever Had.”

Melania walked in just then, serene and glowing. Donald instantly reverted back to doting husband mode, as if nothing had happened, and we continued our interview about their wedded bliss. I nodded at his hollow words and smiled at his jokes, but I was nauseated. It didn’t seem to register to him in the slightest that what he’d done might have hurt or offended me, or his wife.

An hour later, I was back at my hotel. My shock began to wear off, and was replaced by anger. I kept thinking, Why didn’t I slug him? Why couldn’t I say anything?

The next morning, anger became fear. Earlier in my trip, I had tried to arrange a session at Mar-a-Lago’s spa for my chronic neck problem—the spa was part of a private resort separate from the Trump residence—but they were booked up. Trump had gotten wind of that before the interview, and called himself, asking the top massage therapist if he would come in extra early to see me, as a favor to him.

I’d been up all night worrying—had I done something to encourage his behavior? But I decided to keep the keep the appointment. I was running late, and rushed to the spa with my luggage in tow. I found my designated therapist in a panic.

“I’m so, so sorry,” I apologized, “Can we do 30 minutes and I’ll pay you for the whole hour?”

“Never mind that. Mr. Trump was here waiting for you!”

“What? Where?”

“Here. In the massage room. Waiting for you. He waited 15 minutes, then had to leave for a meeting.”

“But why was he here?” I asked. “Is he coming back?”

The therapist shrugged. I lay on the massage table, but my eyes were on the doorknob the entire time. He’s going to show up and this guy’s going to let him in with me half-naked on a table. I cut the session short, got dressed, and left for the airport.

Back in my Manhattan office the next day, I went to a colleague and told her everything.
“We need to go to the Managing Editor,” she said, “And we should kill this story, it’s a lie. Tell me what you want to do.”

But, like many women, I was ashamed and blamed myself for his transgression. I minimized it (“It’s not like he raped me…”); I doubted my recollection and my reaction. I was afraid that a famous, powerful, wealthy man could and would discredit and destroy me, especially if I got his coveted PEOPLE feature killed.

“I just want to forget it ever happened,” I insisted. The Happy Anniversary story hit newsstands a week later and Donald left me a voicemail at work, thanking me.

“I think you’re terrific,” he said, “the article was great and you’re great.”

Yeah, I thought. I’m great because I kept my mouth shut.

I asked to be taken off the Trump beat, and I never interviewed him again. A few months later, I saw Trump at the memorial service of a mutual friend, designer Oleg Cassini. We were both giving eulogies, but I avoided him. That winter, I actually bumped into Melania on Fifth Avenue, in front of Trump Tower as she walked into the building, carrying baby Baron.

“Natasha, why don’t we see you anymore?” she asked, giving me a hug.

I was quiet and smiled, telling her I’d missed her, and I squeezed little Baron’s foot. I couldn’t discern what she knew. Did she really not guess why I hadn’t been around?

Except for a few close friends and family, I didn’t talk about the incident. In time, I chalked it up to one of the hazards of a rollercoaster ride of celebrity journalism: I’d danced barefoot in Cannes with John Travolta, sang with Paul McCartney, talked about Bogie with Bacall, quoted Shakespeare with Brando, and Prince Andrew yelled at me until I cried. Oh, and Donald Trump forced himself on me. I tried to make myself believe it was no big deal.

Only, it was.

Now he’s running for president of our country. The other day, I listened to him talk about how he treats women on the Access Hollywood tape. I felt a strong mix of emotions, but shock wasn’t one of them.

I was relieved. I finally understood for sure that I was not to blame for his inappropriate behavior. I had not been singled out. As he explained to Billy Bush, it was his usual modus operandi with women. I felt deep regret for not speaking out at the time. What if he had done worse to other female reporters at the magazine since then because I hadn’t warned them?

And lastly, I felt violated and muzzled all over gain.

During the presidential debate, Donald Trump lied about kissing women without their consent. I should know. His actions made me feel bad for a very long time.

They still do.

Four years after the Trump incident, I left the magazine to write screenplays and books—a few are New York Times bestsellers.

I’m not sure what locker room talk consists of these days. I only know that I wasn’t in a locker room when he pushed me against a wall. I was in his home, as a professional, and his beautiful pregnant wife was just upstairs.

Talk is talk. But it wasn’t just talk in my case, it was very much action.

And, just for the record, Mr. Trump, I did not consent.


Attacked by Donald Trump

Doc says: "And the list of women who got sexually assaulted by one of the worst sexual predators in US history grows!"
 

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Four more women accuse Trump of inappropriate touching

The new accusations threatened to do further damage to a candidacy that is already reeling.

by Cristiano Lima

Donald Trump is facing a blizzard of fresh allegations of sexual impropriety, days after denying during Sunday's presidential debate that he had ever groped women.

At least four women came forward in stories published Wednesday to say -- on the record -- that the Republican nominee had touched them inappropriately.

In an explosive new report by The New York Times, two woman said that Trump made unwanted sexual advances during incidents decades apart. His campaign is denying the story as "fiction."

A third woman, 36-year-old Mandy McGillivray, accused Trump, in an interview with the Palm Beach Post, of grabbing her posterior 13 years ago. The Trump campaign has not commented on that allegation.

Later Wednesday, People Magazine writer Natasha Stoynoff published an article accusing Trump of forcibly kissing her prior to an interview with him and wife Melania Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort in 2005. (A Trump spokeswoman said the account was "fabricated.")

"We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us," Stoynoff recalled. "I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat."

Stoynoff, who says she was left feeling "badly shaken from the incident," said the innuendo did not stop there.

“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” she recounts him saying. “Have you ever been to Peter Luger’s for steaks? I’ll take you. We’re going to have an affair, I’m telling you.”

Also Wednesday, CBS News unearthed footage from a 1992 "Entertainment Tonight" Christmas special that shows Trump talking to a young girl on an escalator at Trump Tower, then turning to the camera to say, "I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?"

Earlier, BuzzFeed reported that four women who participated in Trump's Teen USA beauty pageants said he would frequently barge into their dressing areas as they were changing.

The reports, all arriving with hours of one another, threatened to further damage a candidacy that that is already reeling in the aftermath of Friday's publication of a 2005 recording of Trump boasting about grabbing women's genitals and kissing them against their will.

Trump apologized for those comments, but described them as "locker room talk" and said when questioned by debate moderator Anderson Cooper that he had never actually groped women.

Polls taken since the video emerged show Trump losing considerable support in the presidential race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, as Republicans in down-ballot contests scrambled to distance themselves from their own party's nominee.

The new accusations are striking in that they seem to have come expressly in reaction to Trump's denial during Sunday's debate.

Jessica Leeds, 74, a former traveling businesswoman, told the New York Times that Trump grabbed her breasts and attempted to reach up her skirt as they sat side-by-side during a flight headed to New York.

“He was like an octopus,” Leeds said. “His hands were everywhere.”

Leeds, who recently watched the second presidential debate where Trump denied ever assaulting women -- despite the release of a video recording last Friday capturing him bragging on a hot mic about groping women's genitals -- said she was enraged by his denial.

“I wanted to punch the screen,” Leeds said. “It was an assault."

Rachel Crooks, a former receptionist for a company in Trump Tower, told the Times that Trump tried to kiss her during a chance encounter on an elevator inside the building in 2005.

Crooks, who was 22 years old at the time, recognized the real estate mogul and introduced herself with a handshake. From there, Crooks said, Trump refused to let go of her hand and instead began to kiss her cheeks.

Then, she said, he “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

“It was so inappropriate,” Crooks told the Times. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”

The Trump campaign was quick to deny the report as "fiction," calling it and other stories alleging that Trump behaved inappropriately toward women a "coordinated character assassination against Mr. Trump" in a statement released by senior communications adviser Jason Miller.

"To reach back decades in an attempt to smear Mr. Trump trivializes sexual assault, and it sets a new low for where the media is willing to go in its efforts to determine this election," Miller said. "It is absurd to think that one of the most recognizable business leaders on the planet with a strong record of empowering women in his companies would do the things alleged in this story, and for this to only become public decades later in the final month of a campaign for president should say it all."

Miller went on to accuse the Times of deliberately seeking to bury recent stories about the recent WikiLeaks release of emails from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, calling the story a "political attack" made "on behalf of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy."

Asked directly about the two women's claims by the Times, Trump staunchly denied the accusations.

“None of this ever took place,” Trump said in a phone interview, going on to call the Times reporter asking the questions "a disgusting human being.”

"He said that The Times was making up the allegations to hurt him and that he would sue the news organization if it reported them," the Times reported.

“This disturbing story sadly fits everything we know about the way Donald Trump has treated women," Clinton's communications director Jennifer Palmieri said in a statement. "These reports suggest that he lied on the debate stage and that the disgusting behavior he bragged about in the tape is more than just words.”

The Trump campaign did not comment on BuzzFeed's allegations, but campaign manager Kellyanne Conway was asked about it during an appearance on CNN, repeatedly ducking questions from the network's Brianna Keilar.

“We never want to talk to the women shamed and blamed by Hillary Clinton because they had sexual contact with her husband. Some consensual long-time affairs, including in the White House, and others victims of predatory conduct,” Conway said.

Shortly after midnight on Thursday, the Trump campaign emailed reporters a letter that a lawyer representing Trump had sent to Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet.

"Your article is false, defamatory, and constitutes libel per se," the letter reads. "Clearly, The New York Times is willing to provide a platform to anyone wishing to smear Mr. Trump's name and reputation prior to election irrespective of whether the alleged statements have any basis in fact."

The letter concludes by demanding that Baquet retract the article and remove it from the newspaper's website, and issue "a full and immediate retraction and apology. Failure to do so will leave my client with no option but to pursue all available actions and remedies."

New sexual misconduct allegations against Donald Trump

Doc says: "Shameful!!! And it's only the tip of the iceberg! Donald Trump will be known as one of the worst serial sexual predators in the history of mankind!"
 

lgna69xxx

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Do you realise, MY FRIEND DOC, that you have morphed into MERLOW? :eek:!


Intervention is in the works!

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What have you done down there to end up with such 2 horrible candidates? You should revolt, make it so no one, absolutely no one, goes to vote on election day. That would be a good way for the population of the USA to contest and prove to the world that you are better than these 2 phony moron candidate.

Have a nice day!
Cheers,
 

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Let me guess john black you believe everything you see or read on the internet .you believe in the Illuminati and chem trail. not even fox is covering what you post. men you are so gullible.
 

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There is going to be tons of lawsuits coming out from Trump soon, if not already done .... . I found the lady saying Trump made a false move on her in the first class cabin on a flight some 20 some odd years ago totally absurd. He should sue the woman and not the NY Times.
 

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This campaign is dirtier than any in the history of any democracy.
The only thing these 2 idiots haven`t done is get into a fist fight.....wait there is still time.
I wish they`d settle things with a duel.
 

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This campaign is dirtier than any in the history of any democracy.

You're seriously blaming her for the dirt? His sick tweets alone make about 70% of the trash, then his campaign speeches and debate sleaziness make up most of the rest. On her part all she has to do is mention the subject and he's worth another 100 to 200 tweets and verbal rants in the next 48 hours. Her campaign ads are slowing because there's no need for them. His own pathological sickness is doing the work for her. Why spend money on attacking him when he's so politically suicidal.

Most of what is coming against now him is from aggrieved women and his own party, and that's due to what he chooses to do on his own, not what Hillary has been saying.
 
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