US border question

[Aryaan]

I recently accompanied my friend to Canadian Border to get his Permanent Residency. we were asked by CBSA to go to US check point and get a "refusal" or "withdrawal form" and come back. I am a canadian citizen, we went to US withdrew our application to enter US, and came back to Canada. My question is: Will this effect my entry into US in the future? Do I need to mention that I had withdrawn/refused entry to US before if asked? Anyone went through something like this before?

 

[BookerL]

I recently accompanied my friend to Canadian Border to get his Permanent Residency. we were asked by CBSA to go to US check point and get a "refusal" or "withdrawal form" and come back. I am a canadian citizen, we went to US withdrew our application to enter US, and came back to Canada. My question is: Will this effect my entry into US in the future? Do I need to mention that I had withdrawn/refused entry to US before if asked? Anyone went through something like this before?

Hello raj

Yes I did went through this before ,however I am not sure that it is a strict protocol where there is a mandatory application of it by all border agents.
I went to the US with a friend ,we where in a large motor home ,my friend was denied access ,I went back a few months later I was denied access again ,I have no criminal record ,had a full time legitimate job .

Being a Canadian citizen going to the US is a privilege not a right ,when border agent have bad feelings they turn you back

Good Luck

Cheers
Booker

 

[jalimon]

"Do I need to mention that I had withdrawn/refused entry to US before if asked?"

Fuck yes. Never ever omit anything if asked question. Tell the truth as it is. If they find out you omit something you are fucked and will be flagged. Call custom and ask question. Clear it out with custom agent to make sure this does not aunt you.

Cheers,



Cheers,

 

[BookerL]

Clear it out with custom agent to make sure this does not aunt you.

Hi jalimon

Even if its cleared ,it might aunt him anyways ?
Is there any assurance of safe entry ?
Is there a definitive answer for all cases ?
Cheers
Booker

 

[jalimon]

Hi jalimon

Even if its cleared ,it might aunt him anyways ?
Is there any assurance of safe entry ?
Is there a definitive answer for all cases ?
Cheers
Booker

No, you are right. There is never any assurance. As you said it's a privilege, not a right.

But I know a few custom agent. They told me if you go and meet them to clear your name and stated all you have done, you should be ok. Basically if you initiate the steps, instead of them finding things out, you are in a better position.

Cheers,

 

[BookerL]

you are in a better position.
Cheers,

Well jalimon

I agree you are in better position ,they will not arrest you for having lied/hidden the truth, to a Law enforcement officer!Lol
Cheers
Booker

 

[Aryaan]

Thanks guys for your replies. Ofcourse there is no assured entry to any country other than Canada for us Canadians. I never had any issue entering US before, I mean i got detained couple of times and after couple of hrs they let me go... I don't think they would have denied me this time too if I had a legitimate reason to be in US. In this case, I voluntarily withdrew my application to enter united states because we had to get back to Canada to land as PR (for my friend). i have never done that before. This is a canadian immigration protocol for every new PR entry, its stupid but what can we do.
I asked CBSA agent about it he said its not a big deal. I asked this question because, in the case when you are arrested and found 'not guilty' and all charges are dismissed against u; u may answer "no" to the question whether u were ever arrested. I thought it might be the same case.
I hate it when I declare something that was not necessary and go the whole 9 yards with CBP. They check my phones, laptop emails and everything they can think of. They found my emails with delphine charmel in 2015. That was quite embarrassing. Though one of the officer was quite interested to know more...lol

 

[BookerL]

I asked CBSA agent about it he said its not a big deal. I asked this question because, in the case when you are arrested and found 'not guilty' and all charges are dismissed against u; u may answer "no" to the question whether u were ever arrested. I thought it might be the same case.

Hello raj
This is actually a grey zone ,if you where arrested and charges dismissed on technicalities,answering "no " to the question ,where you ever arrested ,might put you in boiling water .
Always remember a power of arrest by a law enforcement officer is discretionary ,a zealous officer reacts differently then a lazy one ,that is always true .

If the question was, where ever convicted , a acquittal / dismissal or withdraw of charges ,the answer would be ''no ''


Cheers
Booker

 

[ShyMan]

I agree. Be truthful and just answer the question without eleboration unless they ask for further clarification. Listen carefully to the question and provide precise truthful responses. And yes, it's better to be proactive and you may want to hire an immigration attorney to assist you. I have friends who are US immigrations attorneys. If your attorney is from a highly reputable law firm, the immigration officers are more likely to give your requests more credence. We ALL live by our reputations. I tell folks pay good money for good professionals because you really get what you pay for, in most cases. If it's import for you to continue crossing the border, I'd say find a very reputable immigration attorney who works for a reputable law firm. Good luck.

 

[BookerL]

I tell folks pay good money for good professionals because you really get what you pay for, in most cases.

Hello ShyMan

I also find to be this often true ,however in international law its often complicated .I have a friend that hired a US lawyer through a well establish and reputable Canadian lawyer .

The lawyer found some really scary information he was indited by a grand jury, many many years ago and the case was recently dismissed without prejudice .

So he still cannot go to the US .
Each case being different without knowing the details ,lawyers do not make miracles .

Cheers
Booker

 

[Aryaan]

I agree that lawyers can only advice. its a country's prerogative to let anyone in. I will be travelling in 2 weeks so lets see what happens then. thanks for all your advises. It was very helpful.

 

[ShyMan]

Hello ShyMan

I also find to be this often true ,however in international law its often complicated

Each case being different without knowing the details ,lawyers do not make miracles.

I completely agree with you Booker and Raj.

Despite being a lawyer myself, I have a general distrust for attorneys who generally care more about making as much monies from their clients than helping resolve the clients' issues expeditiously. Like most people, I hate lawyers, including myself. :lol::nod::lol:

US immigration laws are convoluted and highly tricky, as my immigration attorneys told me. I myself don't dare to venture into that field; I defer to immigration attorneys.

Because of the Trump Administrations' rhetoric on immigration, border guards in the US and everywhere globally are all too zealous to "protect" their country's borders.

Evan though I'm an American citizen with a US passport, I know it's a privilege, not a right, for me to enter any allied countries, even Canada.

Good luck Raj.

 

[BookerL]

Another thing which is tricky in the US, which cannot happen in Canada .
A Grand jury indictment in absentia ,without any extradition request from the Friendly Country, in this case the US .

There is many different laws in the US, that simply doesn't exist in Canada and have no equivalent .

Traveling to a neighboring Country, even if its fun contains a risk factor

Evan though I'm an American citizen with a US passport, I know it's a privilege, not a right, for me to enter any allied countries, even Canada.
Good luck Raj.

Good Luck
Cheers
Booker