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Carmine Falcone

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If you visit the USA, here's some helpful advice: don't ring the wrong doorbell, turn around in the wrong driveway, or mistakenly get into the wrong car otherwise you might get shot.
But if you add mass shootings into the mix, that's only a portion of things you shouldn't do. You can't go to work, church, synagogue, concerts, grocery stores, birthday parties, a park and even more places I've left out.

It's funny (morbidly funny) that all this talk of the emerging war in Sudan has killed 600 in a few days when far, far more people have been killed with guns in the US this year alone. In other words, a nation not at war is outpacing a country currently at war. It's sad.
 
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This country, almost an Empire, is collapsing.
 

CaptRenault

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Esp if you're black. In the states with Stand Your Ground laws, it's like a free-for-all for racist gun owners:

As I have noted before and proven with statistics from the federal government and apolitical research organizations, blacks are in much greater danger from other blacks than they are from white people. The recent mass shooting and murder in Alabama is another example of a black-on-black mass shooting and black-on-black murder. All of the victims and all of the shooters are black. Shockingly, though not surprisingly, both the victims and shooters were young blacks.


Tragedy struck Alabama as gunfire erupted at a “sweet 16″ birthday party in the heart of Dadeville, killing four young people and injuring 32 others -- some of them critically.
Officials held a press conference after the arrests of Ty Reik McCullough, 17, and Travis McCullough, 16, both of Tuskegee, have each been charged with four counts of reckless murder.
The two are brothers.
Authorities later announced that Wilson LaMar Hill Jr., 20, of Auburn, was taken into custody and charged with four counts of reckless murder.

 

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William Cho, 6 years old, was the sole survivor after his family got brutally murdered in Allen Texas.
Disgusting and nauseating. Can't we at least try to take action to address this daily carnage?
 

Fradi

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Disgusting and nauseating. Can't we at least try to take action to address this daily carnage?
No you can not.
When half the privately owned guns in the world are in the hands of Americans and they don’t want to part with them it is almost political suicide to try to suggest strict gun control or heaven forbid eliminating guns in the hands of private citizens.
When you have a society that actually believes that arming teachers in schools and more people carrying guns with them will keep them safe there is little hope left.
It will take a whole new generation or generations with completely different mind sets to even put a dent in this mindless love of firearms.
Btw I don’t hate Americans a good portion of my close family are Americans, but I do hate guns they are not for self défense they are for killing people period.
 

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No you can not.
When half the privately owned guns in the world are in the hands of Americans and they don’t want to part with them it is almost political suicide to try to suggest strict gun control or heaven forbid eliminating guns in the hands of private citizens.
When you have a society that actually believes that arming teachers in schools and more people carrying guns with them will keep them safe there is little hope left.
It will take a whole new generation or generations with completely different mind sets to even put a dent in this mindless love of firearms.
Btw I don’t hate Americans a good portion of my close family are Americans, but I do hate guns they are not for self défense they are for killing people period.

Assault rifles are indeed for killing people.
Guns are rarely used for self defense except in movies.
Now in USA, assault weapons are used for hunting too ! Probably for self defense against woodchucks and deer !
When I was young, bolt action, lever action an pump action rifles were used.
 
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CaptRenault

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If you visit the USA, here's some helpful advice...
If you visit the USA, here's more helpful advice: stay far away from certain cities ruled by democrats and certain neighborhoods in any city.
 
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If you visit the USA, here's more helpful advice: stay far away from certain cities ruled by democrats and certain neighborhoods in any city.
You got it backwards.
Stay away from Red States and malls & Walmarts populated by AR15 toting incel brainwashed angry MAGA crazies.
Are they debating banning FOX in Canada?
Renault was anti-Fascist…
 

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Last year at the closing JazzFest concert with the Roots there may have been 100,000 people in an area surrounded by tall buildings. Virtually zero police and no “sand trucks” blocking intersections.
There is no way I would have gone to a concert like this in the US.
In Las Vegas in 2018 an older guy killed 60 and wounded 413 at a country music festival from his hotel.
The only thing Canadian border patrol asks is if I have weapons.
You’re pretty lucky but there have been several police shootings lately
Nothing like the 1989 Montreal (American style) massacre that targeted/killed 14 women.
Guessing they may have tightened up the gun laws after that and which they did after the Buffalo supermarket shooting.
It feels safer in Canada.
 
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CaptRenault

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You got it backwards.
Stay away from Red States and malls & Walmarts populated by AR15 toting incel brainwashed angry MAGA crazies.

I do stay away from malls because black gangs have been known to have shoot-outs at malls such as this 2022 mass shooting in South Carolina:


Since I live in a city with a large black population, I fear getting shot by a gang banger much more than by some mentally ill white man or trans man (such as in Nashville).

As I have pointed out before, according to data collected by the FBI, blacks make up well over half of known homicide offenders (53%) in the U.S. That is incredibly higher than their percentage of the population (13.6%).

Here is the 2021 data from the FBI website: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

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Of course agree that Blacks are statistically both the Offenders and the Victims. "Black on Black" violence is a problem.
There have been some Asian (VA Tech, Monterrey Park) & Hispanic (El Paso, Uvalde) "mass killers" but betting on an 18-25 yo white guy with an AR-15 pays less than even money.
Reasonable gun "safety" laws are supported by >80% of Americans. "~3% of American adults own a collective 133M firearms." [Left leaning Guardian Survey]
"After the Las Vegas shooting, officials said the killer had 23 guns in his hotel room, and another 19 at home.
Some Americans asked, shocked, why one person purchasing so many guns had not set off any red flags." Vive Canada !!

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CaptRenault

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Here is a link to the chart from MtlGuyNow's post (above) that shows the race of perpetrators of mass shootings.


MGN conveniently left out this explanation of the chart:

Broadly speaking, the racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole. While a superficial comparison of the statistics seems to suggest African American shooters are over-represented and Latino shooters underrepresented, the fact that the shooter’s race is unclear in around nine percent of cases, along with the different time frames over which these statistics are calculated, means no such conclusions should be drawn.

Congratulations, MGN, you showed that whites and blacks, are equally likely to commit mass shootings. I thought you said that we are supposed to live in special fear of white mass shooters.

In any case, as terrible as the problem of mass shootings is, I am not willing to give up my right to own a gun to make liberals think that they are doing something meaningful about the problem of mass shootings. I think there are better solutions.

There are also better solutions to the problem of the extremely high black homicide rate than to dismiss the problem by suggesting that blacks killing blacks is not a problem for all Americans. (MGN: "Of course agree that Blacks are statistically both the Offenders and the Victims. "Black on Black" violence is a problem.")
 
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