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Very well said, it puts a damper on the prospects of marriage, family and relationships in general. It is a game that a man will never win. It was not always so, but it is a reality in all Western societies and definitely in Canada.

When a woman decides that she is not going to give you any more sex, the game is over, she has that power and she knows it. If you as the male think otherwise you are naive.

Marriage, if not successful, is financially devastating for men.
This is because Canada offers a lot of social benefits. Technically a woman does not need a man because once she has kids she can leave. Government sends the childcare benefit (which is very generous) plus the man has to pay child support. And women in lower income situations especially with lots of kids are the first to get subsidized housing. So yes women have full control here given by the government. In 2nd and 3rd world countries, the situation is completely different.
 

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Why not just move to one of those countries then? Why live in a place you obviously don't like?
Easier said then done when a lot of my family and friends are living here. Leaving would mean leaving all behind. Besides I never said I do not like Canada, it is the current politics I hate especially since 2015. It could be good here if those bad politicians would leave. I do not want to hijack this thread further. Back to nightlife.
 

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This is because Canada offers a lot of social benefits. Technically a woman does not need a man because once she has kids she can leave.
A woman does not need children to leave a relationship. There are many who choose not to have kids.
Government sends the childcare benefit (which is very generous)
Not as generous as you seem to think. Unless there are many kids, and even then it isn't enough to match what the children need. They often need much more than what these benifits provide.
plus the man has to pay child support.
Many still don't, and find ways not to contribute to their children living a suitable life. Even if they are struggling.
And women in lower income situations especially with lots of kids are the first to get subsidized housing.
Not so. I have been on a waiting list since 2017. As a single parent with 3 kids. Sure I was not on financial assistance, and got barely more than minimum wage. But there are people who have even less than I do/did.
So yes women have full control here given by the government. In 2nd and 3rd world countries, the situation is completely different.
And because it is different the way you say, these women have to stay in abusive situations while not even allowed to go out to work. They stay because while the man gets to act like he's the king of his home, he has little to no respect for her. Those that have a partner, and not a dictator for a husband, are fortunate. But no woman deserves to be stuck in a bad situation.

Women leave a man who she is not happy with. Why should his happiness be at the cost of her misery, or unhappiness. (And before I get called out on that, in this part of the world because it is relevant, it works both ways. Why should her happiness be at the cost of his misery, or unhappiness? Or whatever relationship 2 people have.) You want a marriage to work and for a wife not to leave with the kids, then be the man who contributes to makeing his home happy along with her.

It is not being a bachelor with a 'servant/obligatory sex object/punching bag' and family at home. A relationship is building eachother up, not just building him up. And that's something that works for both, I know women do wrong too. He needs the build up and encouragement as much as she does too.
But breaking up a family, is not an easy decision. But the decision is made when the struggle of doing it alone, is better than being unhappy and trapped with this person who disreguards your happiness for his own. Relationship is shared together not selfish.
You want a relationship, it takes equal effort. It is not, I want, now give me.

And what did any of that have to do with where the fun places have gone???
 
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Not as generous as you seem to think. Unless there are many kids, and even then it isn't enough to match what the children need. They often need much more than what these benifits provide.

I disagree, it is very generous. 40 years ago all they gave was $20 per kid. That is all my parents got.
And what did any of that have to do with where the fun places have gone???
I was replying to Mandouke about his post. I am not commenting more on this as to not hijack this thread further.
 
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From what I gather of my oldest, the fun places aren't all suburbs, sure they aren't on crescent any more. But spread out a little all over depending on what your into. If your looking for what used to be. Lol.. apparently we are old enough it takes special theme nights to cater to our decade :p:p:p... :rolleyes: I'm starting to feel old, but enjoying it my way anyways. :cool:
 
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There is still a nightlife in Montreal, still with many bars and clubs, just not as many as 30 years ago but still plenty. This is not a small town. Just that things changed especially with social media. The one thing that changed is that there are no more after-hours clubs that I know off except Stereo. Maybe someone knows of one that I am not aware of?? I cannot comment on the suburbs since I always lived in downtown. Anytime I went out it was in downtown with the exception of Millenium which was in St-Leonard. I was at Crescent a lot in early 2000s. Anyone remember Bouge de La from the 90s?
 
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There is still a nightlife in Montreal, still with many bars and clubs, just not as many as 30 years ago but still plenty. This is not a small town. Just that things changed especially with social media. The one thing that changed is that there are no more after-hours clubs that I know off except Stereo. Maybe someone knows of one that I am not aware of??
A true after hour where we can just show up? No, those have pretty much all closed except Stereo. We do have underground afters but we keep those underground for a reason

Also, just to add. The nightlife is different. We don't have the dedicated clubs we grew up on. We have hybrid businesses nowadays which business wise, it makes sense
 
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