Originally posted by regnad
Daydreamer,
The SwiftBoatSwine, while veterans, are not speaking as veterans. They are Republican functionaries operating, under a thin veil, from within the Bush campaign. (Witness the recent resignations of outed Bush campaign staffers after their exposure.)
They are not providing eyewitness accounts. They did not serve WITH Kerry. If you want the accounts of those who served WITH Kerry, look to those who surround him. Those who served WITH Kerry, including the republican Rassmann, regard him as a genuine war hero.
For any to impugn the veracity of a genuine war hero for political gain is disgusting. That is exactly what Bush and Cheney are up to now. Of course, Cheney had other priorities than serving his country. And today he stilll has other priorities than serving his country. His main priority is looting the treasury in favor of Halliburton.
That is treasonous.
Reggnad you are beyond ignorant in this one. Have you READ the Book? No. You only listen to ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and the other DEMOCRATIC Operatives. Rassman was in the water when this happen. I guess he makes a good witness. O'Neill interviewed the surviving members of Kerry's unit, Kerry's commanders, and others that knew him. O'Neill admittedly disliked Kerry's testimony in front of Congress, which Kerry never has offerred facts to back up. Kerry is a self-admitted war criminal. He self-admittedly did things worse than Abu Grais. You have witnessess that say that Kerry threw a grenade in a stack of rice the day before the Rassman incident; that Kerry injured himself then and there.
Where are your facts that Bush or the RNC is behind these Vets? Let me hear specifics?
Yes, you can call 200 vets liars, SWINE, even? but if anyone attacks you or your views or your candidates views, gee, the name calling begins. These men are not swine. They are heros, and they want to prevent a dishonest man from being in charge of our forces.
Just remember, the pictures of John Kerry and Jane Fonda are in the Vietnam Hall of Fame as Americans that help win their Revolution. Communism has murdered millions of innocents. Is that what you represent, Regnand? That's what Kerry represents, and God save us from having him as our commander in chief.
And one more thing Regnand, the lawyer who resigned - Ginsberg, who is NOT a Swift Vet - (you can't even get your facts straight) resigned because he gave these guys legal advice, which is NOT ILLEGAL. What is ILLEGAL is the staffer for MOVEON.ORG that is NOW on the Kerry campaign, and does not resign from the 527. Zach Exley is a key campaign staffer who served as the organizing director for MoveOn.org throughout the presidential primaries.
There is a picture of the guys who served with Kerry on Swiftvets.com. Why don't you look at the picture yourself? The book interviews many who served with him. Most are against Kerry and testify against what Kerry says. Rassmann (gee you don't even know which one Rassman was) was one of them. Again he was pulled out the water. The question is - was Kerry under enemy fire at the time or not? There is a disagreement to whether he was or not. Many say they were not. A couple say they were.
The day you argue facts is the day you will look all wet, because you never used a fact to win an argument.
And yes I do resent you calling these guys Swine. They are honorable. Kerry is not. Redpaul, calling these vets Swine is very immature. I was responding to Regnands' addressing these heros as swine. And Red Paul answer one question:
Why hasn't Kerry released all of his medical records, like President Bush has? Doe he have something to hide?
No, these guys are not fantasizing ... PROVE IT.