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Winter Blues: 2012 Official Offseason Baseball Thread

rumpleforeskiin

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Lots of if this and if thats on the Yankees for 2013. Sure any team could have a miracle run and a team full of 33-40 year old players can avoid a serious downturn and stay healthy and win it all, then there is reality. While the yankees got rid of 125 homers like Ibanez and Chavez and Rodriguez and Swisher and Martin they have not exactly improved much, and kinda just got older. I expect them to be quite a few games worse than last season however. Meanwhile the Red Sox are fundamentally sound at most positions and will contend, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional or just sadly mistaken, or both.
 

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My picks in the AL East for the 2013 season:

1-Toronto
2-Baltimore
3-Tampa
4-Boston
5-New York

I've looked at the numbers & it's impossible for me not to pick Toronto to lead the division. Of course, they could once again wind up with serious injuries to key players, but that's a big 'If'.

For 2nd spot, i picked the Orioles because any team managed by the great Buck Showalter has to be given some consideration. They surprised a lot of people last season & i expect them to have another very good season.

In 3rd spot i chose Tampa. I think their roster slightly degraded over last season's and i'm not impressed with some of the players they picked up. However, they still have David Price leading the staff & a healthy Evan Longoria will carry the bulk of the hitting.

In 4th spot i have the Red Sox. I think they've improved over last season's roster & there's no way they'll have as awful of a season as they've recently had. They'll contend with Baltimore & Tampa for the 2nd & 3rd spots, but will likely run out of gas come September.

In last place, i have no choice but to hand it to the once-mighty N.Y. Yankees. I don't know what they're doing to that team, to be honest. They've got one quality starter & he's overweight & appears unhealthy. At his age & how he looks, he'll likely get injured again. The closer role is a big 'if'. I'm not certain Mariano Rivera can still be effective considering his age & the fact he missed nearly an entire season due to an extremely serious injury.

Looking at their hitters, i'm left to wonder: "What happened to all of their hitters?" Of course, many of the hitters that carried the lumber are gone. And let's be honest: they haven't been replaced in the line-up. The oft-injuried veteran Kevin Youkilis will be expected to carry a big load, but i believe it is too much to ask of him considering his age & past history with injuries. Catching is a huge question mark after the departure of Russell Martin, and i wouldn't be surprised if back-up catcher Frank Cervelli gets suspended 50 games due to the recent news of his name being mentionned in that drug scandal. Jeter will also be returning from a serious injury, and i'd be surprised to see him perform as good as he has in the past considering his age & his time off from the game. Mark Texeira's career is on a downslide. Ichiro is a shade of what he once was & i woudn't be surprised if they wind up platooning him. A bright spot is the always reliable Robinson Cano at 2nd base. He's been fairly healthy for most of his career & a serious injury this season would be devastating to the team. In center field, Curtis Granderson will have power numbers, but high strikeouts to counter his production. And finally, there's the drama queen: A-Rod. I don't believe i even need to go there.

It'll be a very disappointing year in the Bronx & don't be surprised of both the manager & the GM get axed before the end of the season.
 

rumpleforeskiin

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Little early to be making predictions, Doc, but let me weigh in here on what you've posted.

1. The Orioles were one of the luckiest teams in history last year. 29-9 in one run games, 16-2 in extra innings. They just can't do that again. And they did nothing this winter. They're almost a stone cold lock for the cellar.

2. The Yankees can't be projected. Of the 15 primary players (9 hitters, 5 pitchers, Closer), all but Cano, Granderson, and Hughes are question marks. They could win 87 games, they could win 75. The Yankees are going to have a lot of trouble scoring runs.

3. The Sox have almost as many question marks as the Yankees, though the thing that has me thinking they'll beat the Yankees is the depth of their starting pitching. Beyond the 5 starters, they have another 6-7 guys they can plug in when they need help in the rotation. They also have some $25 available for help at the deadline. The Red Sox could compete, though they're hardly projectable at this point.

4. The Rays have fewer questions marks, though they also have less offense. They are loaded in the pitching department as usual. They look to me, at this early point, to project to fight the Sox for second place.

5. The Jays look loaded, but again, quite a few question marks as we look to see how they bounce back from injury.
 

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Wha? wha? wha?...... WHAT??? tell me you did NOT just say that :noidea:

Wow lol, I guess adding a ryan dempster and a new and improved lackey is something every team should have done :lol: oh man this cant get any better, or can it?

Speaking of Dempster, i cant wait to see him and his career 4.33 era (all in the NL except for his 5.09 era with texas in 12 starts last season) pitch in the AL .... it has disaster written all over it, as does lackey if sox fans think he will be the lackey of 2007 all over again. Lester is in decline and buckholz is a slip in the shower away from another back injury and half the season on the DL. His era from last year points to him pitching thru the pain, unless he has just lost his stuff, either case is good news for the rest of the AL East.

though the thing that has me thinking they'll beat the Yankees is the depth of their starting pitching.
 

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Wow, what a screwing Cashman's taking with this. NY is historically one of the worst places to file for divorce and this shows it clearly here. He makes $3M/ year and must give his EX $1M/year. At least he got to keep his "Winged Foot" country club membership though. Haha.
 

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SK,

Actually that divorce happened in Connecticut- the Stamford Superior Court. The Cashmans lived in Stamford and that is where she filed. The Winged Foot membership is a key but minor victory for Cashman.
 
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Absolutely fucking hilarious, he should have taken up curling instead of baseball, this guy probably gets injured just by staring at the mirror, what a pussy he is, I don't know what was more hilarious, this or rumples getting banned for the 11th time, god love em both for the humor they continue to provide us(Buchholz, forskin):D


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I give Dickey credit. It is hard to be effective with a knuckleball and it is even harder to be brilliant as a knuckleball pitcher. You look at a guy like Tim Wakfield, he was a solid knuckleball pitcher for some years but never was great. Dickey took it to the great level because he is a little bigger and throws the knuckler a little harder. The Jays look much improved to me and they are sort of the wild card in the AL East. They could win the AL East.
 
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