Would you hire the hobbyist?
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Roland said:May I cut in ? Hello everybody..its still civil here..very impressed....
Tapas
Yummy !or ..your Sanskrit has been acknowledged.
Roland, leave it up to you to find the Sanskrit word for "fuzzy".
Definition of Tapas:
"Tapas (tápas) in Sanskrit means "heat". In Vedic religion and Hinduism, it is used figuratively, denoting spiritual suffering, mortification or austerity, and also the spiritual ecstasy.....In the yogic tradition, tapas may be translated as "essential energy"
You've really made me feel validated.
Encouraged by Roland, I offer an another installment of "Sanskrit for Merbites":
vizikha means vagina. But:
mahadvara means a large vagina, and
phalin means a vagina injured by intercourse that is too rough, and
yonisamurti is a contracting vagina.
This terms will be useful if your escort is a Hindu nun.
***Okay, back to the program.
vizikha means vagina. But:
mahadvara means a large vagina, and
phalin means a vagina injured by intercourse that is too rough, and
yonisamurti is a contracting vagina.
This terms will be useful if your escort is a Hindu nun.
***Okay, back to the program.
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We've thoroughly discussed the issue of risk involved in hiring the hobbyist candidate. But what about any strengths that are particular to or more common in married hobbyists?
Can we ask, as we did regarding escorts, what special skill-set or characteristics would a hobbyist candidate bring to the position being offered?
Can we ask, as we did regarding escorts, what special skill-set or characteristics would a hobbyist candidate bring to the position being offered?
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Reasons to Employ a Hobbyist
1. When you want to screw your secretary, you can always depend on him to have an extra condom.
2. He knows all the hotels in town that have jacuzzis.
3. He can include humourous first-hand anecdotes when giving the company safe-sex lecture.
4. You can always depend on him to keep a cool head around that hot girl in accounting. After all, he says that compared to Mercedes of Exxtase she is at best a six.
5. Savings on office supplies. How? All those paper clips that get stuck on the bottom of the pen holder---he can get them out with his tongue.
6. He seems really conscientious because each time he licks a stamp he instinctively looks up and asks, ``How was that? Good?``
7. Unlike many men, he won`t waste valuable company time and resources photocopying his ass. After all, he`s seen his ass a thousand times in ceiling mirrors.
8. You know he`s patient because when the female staff send him emails asking for the date, he never gets angry even though they keep spelling date with ``Y`` instead of ``e``.
9. Your wife likes him. Your daughter likes him. Your maid likes him. Your secretary likes him. But strangely enough they have trouble spelling ``date`` too.
10. He can help if you ever want to expand your business into Europe because he knows a lot of women that speak greek.
11. You know he can help your branch win the company hockey tournament this year because you always hear him say on the telephone that if he doesn`t get multiple shots on goal he might as well stay at home with his wife.
12. He demands perfection. Apparently he had your secretary do some task and he made her come five times before it was done. Even your wife said he made her come twice and she`s not even an employee!
13. You can be sure he understands the importance of teamwork. After all, if there`s one thing that somebody who gets his balls shaved needs to know, it`s teamwork.
14. He has experience in complicated personnel data systems based on coded classifications like GFE, MSOG and .
15. He is experienced in outsourcing vital tasks to agencies and freelancers while still maintaining strong in-house relationships.
16. If there`s one thing he knows the importance of, it`s confidentiality.
17. He has the knowledge to set up a comprehensive and confidential staff review board so you can know who on your staff is only YMMV.
18. He knows how to get low-level staff to work for peanuts....well, candy bars.
19. The elves he gets for the company Christmas party give ``extras``.
20. He has great ideas that are really counterintuitive. For example, who would have thought that hanging a sliding black curtain across the opening of each office booth would improve company morale so much? Now when employees talk about the daily grind, they smile!
1. When you want to screw your secretary, you can always depend on him to have an extra condom.
2. He knows all the hotels in town that have jacuzzis.
3. He can include humourous first-hand anecdotes when giving the company safe-sex lecture.
4. You can always depend on him to keep a cool head around that hot girl in accounting. After all, he says that compared to Mercedes of Exxtase she is at best a six.
5. Savings on office supplies. How? All those paper clips that get stuck on the bottom of the pen holder---he can get them out with his tongue.
6. He seems really conscientious because each time he licks a stamp he instinctively looks up and asks, ``How was that? Good?``
7. Unlike many men, he won`t waste valuable company time and resources photocopying his ass. After all, he`s seen his ass a thousand times in ceiling mirrors.
8. You know he`s patient because when the female staff send him emails asking for the date, he never gets angry even though they keep spelling date with ``Y`` instead of ``e``.
9. Your wife likes him. Your daughter likes him. Your maid likes him. Your secretary likes him. But strangely enough they have trouble spelling ``date`` too.
10. He can help if you ever want to expand your business into Europe because he knows a lot of women that speak greek.
11. You know he can help your branch win the company hockey tournament this year because you always hear him say on the telephone that if he doesn`t get multiple shots on goal he might as well stay at home with his wife.
12. He demands perfection. Apparently he had your secretary do some task and he made her come five times before it was done. Even your wife said he made her come twice and she`s not even an employee!
13. You can be sure he understands the importance of teamwork. After all, if there`s one thing that somebody who gets his balls shaved needs to know, it`s teamwork.
14. He has experience in complicated personnel data systems based on coded classifications like GFE, MSOG and .
15. He is experienced in outsourcing vital tasks to agencies and freelancers while still maintaining strong in-house relationships.
16. If there`s one thing he knows the importance of, it`s confidentiality.
17. He has the knowledge to set up a comprehensive and confidential staff review board so you can know who on your staff is only YMMV.
18. He knows how to get low-level staff to work for peanuts....well, candy bars.
19. The elves he gets for the company Christmas party give ``extras``.
20. He has great ideas that are really counterintuitive. For example, who would have thought that hanging a sliding black curtain across the opening of each office booth would improve company morale so much? Now when employees talk about the daily grind, they smile!
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Jokes aside, it all depends on what people make of their life experiences. As a manager, in the process of hiring, I would gladly be interested to know what kind of intelligence the hobbyist developped in view of his hobby that can benefit the company.
As the interviewer, I would, say, challenge the candidate to solve a problem related to his future tenure by using a hobby anecdote (or a concept extracted from a compendium of hobby anecdotes, or whatever else relevant) as part of his solution.
My idea of good management is much inspired of my attitude towards life in general: making positives out of negatives.
As the interviewer, I would, say, challenge the candidate to solve a problem related to his future tenure by using a hobby anecdote (or a concept extracted from a compendium of hobby anecdotes, or whatever else relevant) as part of his solution.
My idea of good management is much inspired of my attitude towards life in general: making positives out of negatives.
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Funny guy.Roland said:What ?
Interests & Hobbies
You need to tell perspective employers why you enjoy your interests and hobbies and what you get out of them. What skills and abilities have you developed by doing these activities which might be useful for that job or course.
Ziggy Montana said:
With the many ladies seen, there's plenty of experince kissing someones ass.
Big Daddy Cool said:With the many ladies seen, there's plenty of experince kissing someones ass.
Nice one, BDC!
Ziggy Montana said:
I'm not sure we can say this problem belongs entirely to the realm to theory. Of course, nobody will write "hobbyist" on their resume. Anyway, in the problem posed in the first post, it says that the interviewer "becomes aware" that the candidate is a hobbyist, not that it is in the resume or revealed during the interview.
But even then, is it not inconceivable that an interviewer will be aware of a candidates background. In small industries, it is very possible that the hiring company will know the candidate beforehand, particularly where executive positions are concerned.
So situations where an interviewer has to consider whether a candidate's hobbying could have ramifications for the company are far from impossible.
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traveller_76 said:I read a study somewhere that women have a hire thresthold for pain (i.e. a subcategory of stress) because they're the ones that have to give birth to all those mini yous and if the roles were reversed we'd be out of a population because men would all die screaming in agony during labour. Oh, but mankind saved: thank you Epidural
Silly,
t76
You're also forgetting the pain (cramps and headaches) that a lot of women go through once a month when Aunt Flow visits ;-)
I think that the closest pain that a man will ever experience similar to a woman giving birth is where he is trying to pass a kidney stone (where something bigger than the hole is trying to get through a sensitive part of the body).
Hopefully, its something I'll never experience.Just so there's no misunderstanding, I did not mean to discredit the relevance of the thread. I'll clarify, regardless.Fat Happy Buddha said:
The way I undestand it, the seminal question contained a core and some corollary subjects. One of the corollary subject would be the one we're currently debating over: "Should the VP hire or not
the hobbyist?", which led to further discussions over sub-corollary subjects, one of which being the probability, for the VP, to find out beforehand of the candidate's hobby.
We've discussed thoroughly the question of hiring or not the hobbyist and reached fairly reasonable results. The question of the probability, on the other hand, needs to be investigated further, though I don't think that addressing this issue would advance significantly the core subject. Yet, for the record,
appears to contain a flaw. Even though it is stated correctly that information travels fast within small industries, nothing is said about how information that is being circulated was acquired in the first place. Unless the hobbyist confessed in a peer or was caught red-handed, I don't see how his secret can otherwise be discovered.Fat Happy Buddha said:
One might object that it's not inconceivable that the hobbyist failed or forgot to hide his traces and therefore was caught browsing review boards. The question is: does that make him a hobbyist? In essence, how's that different than browsing porn sites, certainly the most widespread form of waste of company time?
What excuse would the faultive employee give to management after getting caught browsing review boards? "I just checked, out of curiosity!"
That demonstration made, I'm aware that the issue is still open for discussion yet, as I was saying, it doesn't contribute a great deal in our understanding of the core subject, which I think is: "Is a hobbyist particularly fit or unfit to be an executive employee?"
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Ziggy>>> he was recognized at a GT or maybe his face was on photo police after a raid of an incall place...
Ronnie,
Naughtylady
or maybe his face was on photo police after a raid of an incall place...Ronnie,
Naughtylady
Ziggy Montana said:
The manner is which you've broken down the issue is very useful. As I understand it, you understand the issue as discussed so far in this thread as follows:
Core question-->Should the VP hire the hobbyist?
Corollary question 1-->What is the likelihood that a candidate's hobbying history will be known to the interviewer?
Regarding the core question, I feel we have discussed the issue of risk to the company posed by the candidate's hobbying history. I don't feel however that we have come to a serious conclusion about whether a candidate's hobbying might be considered somehow advantageous to the company. (There were lots of jokes made, but no serious response was given.) Some people might think this question strange, but I know from first-hand experience that in international companies it is useful to have employees who are knowledgeable about procurring the services of escorts, dancers and masseuses. For simplicity sake, we can call this man the "company procurer." The main function of the "company procurer" is to guide visiting clients and officials through the "underbelly" of the city, making sure that they safely experience what most likely they are unable to enjoy at home. It is my experience that between seventy and eighty percent of visiting VIPs willingly accept to benefit from the skills of the company procurer. Strangely enough, it is Americans that are at the low end of the spectrum at between sixty and seventy percent, while Europeans are at the high end of the spectrum (probably 90% if not more).
Whether the candidate's skill at navigating the sex-industry is seen as a virtue will depend largely on the culture of the company and probably the country where it is located. It is in regard to the situation in Canada that I am at a lose, because I'm not very familiar with Canadian corporate culture. I would be interested to hear from individuals who work in Canadian companies and who have acted as a guide to Montreal's sex industry for a client.
Ziggy Montana said:
Determining whether Canadian corporate culture has the equivalent of the "company procurer" will help us do two things.
First, it will help answer my question of whether a candidate's hobbying skills might ever be considered a practical advantage for the company. Obviously, if the role of company procurer is totally absent from Canadian corporate culture, then a candidate's hobbying skills will not serve any concrete advantage for the company and the hobbying will be considered irrelevent or detrimental to company interests.
Second, it will also help us determine the likelihood that a candidate's hobbying history could become known. If sexual entertainment is part of an industry's corporate culture, then word will travel with relative ease through the industry grapevine. I'm not sure, but I think a culture of this sort might exist in the Alberta oil patch, the oil industry being so closely knit, male-dominated and international in nature.
Frankly, I am surprised Ziggy and t76 that you find the likelihood of an employee's history becoming known to be so slim. My experience tells me the situation is just the opposite. I can present two frameworks within which a candidate's hobbying history would become known:
First, as described above, the company or an industry virtually integrates into its culture a sexual-entertainment component. In this case, other than normal decorum there would be little to deter news from travelling the grapevine.
Second, even if such entertainment was not a formal part of the corporate culture, a tightly-knit industrial community could still share an informal culture of engaging in sexual entertainment. We only need to think of the raucous "company convention" that for some time was standard fare for US sitcoms. A gathering of men from the same industry is the perfect vehicle for determining who is a bible basher and who is an escort banger.
Besides these two frameworks, there are still the normal ways in which secrets become known, such as loose lips, rumours, bad luck and so on. Remember Robert Coates, the former Canadian Defense Minister who was spotted in a strip club in Germany?
Ziggy Montana said:
I agree. We should be careful to keep our eye on the core subject. For me, possibility was never a big issue. What I feel we need to do now is return to the question of whether the hobbyist brings any special advantage to a company, be it characteristics, skills or attitude.
However, as I said above, I am also interested in what we can call "Corollory Question 2"; that is, does Canadian corporate culture have anything analogous to the "company procurer" and is sexual entertainment integrated in any way into the culture of some Canadian companies?
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Ziggy Montana said:
Good question and I will answer with "not nessarly". Some might browse out of couosity and others might like the political and social debates here as this board by it's very content is much more than a bunch of men and women engaged in conversations about sex. But I am concern about the waste of company time and this is not unique to those looking at porn or this board. There are those addicted to political boards, gossip boards about hollywood stars, email and muc more so to focus purely on sex sites would be short sited from the companies veiw point.
Ziggy Montana said:
This should not even be a question as you pointed out that as long as he brings in the money than that's the bottom line, but the reality is that it depends on the company as image is extreamly important.
Let's look at two different company to clearafy:
Comapany 1: They sell animal crackers and other food products targeted towards children. This companies clientel are most likely to be families, religious nuts, moralists, etc as well as their stock holders. In this case they can not hire the hobbiest as this might come into conflect with the companies image and offend the target market.
Company 2: A beer company who's clientel are predomitly people like those on this board. In that case it would not matter as we tend to be more open minded.
Fat Happy Buddha said:
In relation to the above question, I've just finished watching a news report in which Vincent Lacroix, when asked why he spent $30,000 dollars in fourteen visits to Chez Paree, responded, ""Ben, c'est la demande des clients et représentants." [Hey, it was at the request of clients and representatives.]
Relevent new report:
24 mai 2007Vincent
http://www.lapresseaffaires.com/article/20070524/LAINFORMER/70524072/-1/LAINFORMER
Lacroix a flambé 29 000 $ chez Parée
En 14 soirées, Vincent Lacroix et ses collègues ou proches ont flambé un total d'au moins 29 000 $ au bar de danseuses chez Parée, à Montréal de juin 2004 à avril 2005.
Selon le juricomptable et enquêteur François Filion, qui témoigne toujours au procès pénal de l'ancien PDG de Norbourg, les paiements retracés ont été faits à partir d'une carte de crédit «Aéro Or CIBC Visa».
M. Filion a étudié un peu plus de 1 M$ de dépenses par carte de crédit dans trois comptes lors de l'enquête.
La soirée la plus coûteuse chez Parée aura été celle du 28 avril 2005, lorsque M. Lacroix a versé 5000 $ au club.
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