Long term arrangements

[EagerBeaver]

Too hard to cut and paste here. Hopefully mods won’t give me demerit points. EB do not start fake news. Jalimon never asked for cim to them via SA. Please remove your post or change it

You need to follow this thread a little bit better dude and DELETE YOUR POST........and get demerits from the Mods for trying to start fake news about real news as well as quoting in block. I guess you missed this post:

Ok please follow Capt and EB advice in this thread and not mine because I got banned from SA.

It seems my message were to direct and were considered open solicitation for sex.

I do not have the time to meet every girl before reaching a point where a sexual relation will happen. So I guess SA is not for me and I will revert back to SP

At least from my time in SA i got 2 girls who I have seen and are willing to see me again so it's not a total waste!

Cheers,

 

[Flyingby]

You need to follow this thread a little bit better dude and DELETE YOUR POST........and get demerits from the Mods for trying to start fake news about real news as well as quoting in block. I guess you missed this post:

So where in this does it say CIM? Just quoting you buddy. You even posted the facts to confirm your fake news
And i cropped it just for you. There goes 2 mins of my life

 

[etalon69]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and advice mr EagerBeaver Yes i did indeed developed my social skills with women with those few experiences as well. If i just had more money...i think i would have been even more successful

 

[etalon69]

Hey Jack,

My encounters have all been between 1h30 and 4 hours (mostly 2h30+). I would just drop that hottie, she is way too expensive. I got a couple like this who asked for a lot. 500$ for a couple of hours with intimacy included was the MAXIMUM for me. And i also told every women on SA that i was paying the encounter fee only if intimacy was invovled, i wouldnt pay for company only either. If she got a rich daddy who is paying her that much for sex, good for her. But maybe she is just trying to extract lots of money from you. I would just let her know that its too much and wish her luck in her research. Maybe she will drop her price if she doesnt have a rich SD, or she will just go back to her rich SD
Anyway there are plenty of hot chicks who will be happy in the 300-500 range for a couple of hours with intimacy included.

 

[EagerBeaver]

So where in this does it say CIM? Just quoting you buddy. You are right. I am quoting in block. Too hard to crop on an iphone.

Are you serious with these posts? What difference does it make whether Jalimon was banned for asking for CIM, DATY, or BBBJ? The dude was banned by Seeking for soliciting sex in messages. I had only put up around 50 posts prior to that which warned everyone, especially here, do not take the MERB mentality and language onto Seeking, which means do not use acronyms, do not hookerize girls, do not use words like sex, etc. etc. and then Jalimon decides to push the envelope and not adhere to any of those rules because he was impatient. It really does not matter what he said specifically or how he solicited sex. My post, which you did not get, was made in the context of these other posts in this thread, which you have not followed. Therefore you can read my post and substitute any fucking hookerizing term you wish and the meaning and point of my post is exactly the same. Although I mentioned Jalimon, there was no intention to single him out, which you would have known if you read the prior posts which were talking about MERB posters using MERB type lingo and messaging language generally.

Read Jalimon's post. He understood that clearly when he posted- what had happened to him, and why. Seeking has its own language and it's very different than here. I already spent too many posts in this thread explaining that and I am not going to rehash them because you have not read the thread.

 

[Flyingby]

Are you serious with these posts? What difference does it make whether Jalimon was banned for asking for CIM, DATY, or BBBJ?. Therefore you can read my post and substitute any fucking hookerizing term you wish and the meaning and point of my post is exactly the same..

Miss naptime today EB? It’s not complicated. I only asked you to remove the words CIM which is proliferating fake news. No need for swearing. You can talk like a big boy to get your point across

 

[sambuca]

I never even dated any black women until I was in my 40s. It’s mainly because I never was exposed to very attractive black women due to the negligence of my parents in raising me in white suburbs and sending me to private schools generally affordable only by whites. Once I was free of such parental shackles and began to venture into the real world and started representing black clients and started getting exposed to more of their culture and seeing and meeting such women, I realized a beautiful woman is a beautiful women, and race doesn’t matter one bit. However I have always been attracted to brunette darker skinned women even of the white race. So it’s likely I just tapped into something that could and should have been tapped into much earlier in my life. But wasn’t due to the upbringing I had.

So you're blaming your parents for your white guilt? I guess that makes sense since you probably know them better than your ancient white ancestors.

 

[EagerBeaver]

So you're blaming your parents for your white guilt? I guess that makes sense since you probably know them better than your ancient white ancestors.

My post was tongue in cheek. You did not get it. I do not "blame" my parents for anything. We all have to figure out things for ourselves eventually once the parental upbringing umbilical cord is cut, including our personal sexual identities. I have no complaints about my upbringing at all, and consider it quite fortunate compared to the vast majority of the backgrounds that the SBs I date come from.

 

[EagerBeaver]

For you gentlemen who ever did pay per meeting, did you always pay upfront?

It's best to get to know the lady first, and if she insists on advance payment at an initial meeting, it's best to move on. It's not like seeing an escort- an arrangement has to be built on trust. I think you are looking for a quick hit and your profile or preliminary messaging must be sending that message. Change your profile and say you want to invest some time in getting to know a lady and establishing whether a connection exists, or else in the initial messaging process say that. Unless a lady is totally mercenary and opportunistic she will be willing to meet for coffee to see if a connection exists. The vast majority of ladies want this, request it. There is something wrong with your profile or initial messaging because you seem to be magnetizing the opportunists. De-magnetize your profile, delete the above message and move on!

 

[cloudsurf]

Its fun reading this thread. I`m fascinated by the amount of trouble and money some of you go thru when, if you do your homework well, you can book a gorgeous agency girl for a fraction of what you spend on an SA girl and be almost guaranteed of a GFE+ time.
Don`t get me wrong though since I `ve had the pleasure of enjoying several sugar babes over the past 10 years....I didn`t arrange it through a web site or dating service but in one on one meetings with bar-maids I met at parties.
I also dated a couple of girls who had sugar daddies that were a few years older than me at the time. Their stories of their affairs.....yes sugar babes do tell stories about their sd`s to their boy friends.....were amusing.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Cloudsurf,

The amount of time needed to be invested in SBs is certainly more than for escorts but some people like the thrill of the hunt so to speak, and some develop a really good canned (more or less) intro to use which can be copied and pasted or modified copied and pasted. There is no way around the preliminary dating process, and yes that’s time consuming, but some of us are social animals and we like the social time and see it as an appetizer to the main course. There are clearly some guys who prefer the takeout pizza approach to save time, and just get right down to business. STN has posted I don’t know how many times that he is a take out pizza kind of guy and sees no need for actual dinner or social time dates. Everyone has to decide what is worth it for themselves and what fits with their needs and agendas and time allotment. I think Seeking works better for single or divorced guys. My married friends who use Seeking like the service but complain that they don’t have the time needed to perfect opportunities arising on Seeking and when they do they have to use hotels. It’s a game that is much easier to play if your single.

 

[Flyingby]

Even sp share stories of sugar daddies. An SP i saw told me about a very very well know business man that was he Sugar daddy. Showed me pics of them together

 

[EagerBeaver]

Most SBs are NOT escorts however. I think escorts are about 5% of what’s on Seeking and with my filtered search I rarely come across other than regular civilian college girls who need cash badly.

 

[cloudsurf]

with my filtered search I rarely come across other than regular civilian college girls who need cash badly.

Bleeding heart liberals would accuse you of taking advantage of a socially unjust situation.
I don`t. I`m pleased that these girls are helping themselves get a better life with higher education.
I helped pay a s/b get a masters degree in finance. With that degree she got a good job in an investment bank. She ended up falling in love and marrying a young millionaire client of the bank.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I don’t see it as taking advantage of an unjust situation. But for SDs, these ladies cannot afford rent and and tuition and become wards of the State, supported by the taxpayers. It’s socially preferable to have private subsidization of this sector of the economy. I see no reason for liberals or conservatives to object, but Seeking has greater risk from politically right-wing groups with the agenda of pleasing religious and/or law and order fanatics who perceive it as a threat to their supposed moral fiber.

 

[sambuca]

Cloudsurf, there probably is a bigger appeal for SB in the U.S. In some cities, law enforcement has gone after the escort business. It's random and it's real. You can always stick to the same escorts, but if they retire or you want some variety Seeking.com seems like a good route. Given the upward price pressure here for attractive, young escorts, the economics don't seem so bad. Not everyone can just jump in a car and drive to Montreal.

It sounds like SB is a form of escorting for some girls. I know some will disagree. It's just a subjective assessment from reading the accounts here. I'm not a Law Enforcement expert. I am cautious so I don't have to worry about the law. Seeking.com and the entire dance between the guys and the girls would seem to give men and women legal cover.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising local LE go after Seeking.com participants. Frankly, a few of the girls' profiles sound like escorts. They're clearly up for anything. If we use Jalimon's approach with a strong P4P intro, I can see that being problematic with the law at some point. On the flip side, if you are having coffee, lunch, etc. before you get too explicit, the police will have no time for such a long game.

 

[sambuca]

My post was tongue in cheek. You did not get it. I do not "blame" my parents for anything.

I'm riffing off some of your political posts. You seem to have a problem with old, white Republicans. Some of us resemble your remarks.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I'm riffing off some of your political posts. You seem to have a problem with old, white Republicans. Some of us resemble your remarks.

My Dad is an old white Republican and he is my best friend. He was President of the Young Republicans in college back in the 1950s, voted for Eisenhower and his “I Like Ike” button is a cherished personal possession.

 

[sambuca]

You're lucky to have him.

 

[EagerBeaver]

That one girl I mentioned in my last post eventually said 600 for a meeting and pay her at the beginning... when I refused she just cursed me and said" this site is for sugar daddy and you have no money, get lost".

Never respond to such a proposal. Just delete and move on. Trolling is not productive of anything and only wastes your own time which is better spent messaging the next candidate. Your percentage of pros seems way too high and something is magnetizing them. I would hide your profile and only respond to responses to your messages. No responses to unsolicited messages. When I first signed up I was getting spammed by pros/fuglies and I just hid my profile and that way only had to respond to responses to my own messages. Most of the ladies who are messaging unsolicited are pros or else can’t get dates. Hotties don’t need to spam.