The importance of kissing...

[jalimon]

Why is kissing such a hang up for some of you guys, while things like rape fantasies seem to be normal, deep throat, face fucking, gang bangs etc... are run of the mill things to brag about in reviews. Please enlighten me I am confused.

Because DFK is so personal. Most girl keep it for their boyfriend and personal life. Most girl are not comfortable to dfk. And that includes many top stars, over 300$/hour girl and even girl that are involved in this thread

Some will do it against their will to please you. I am ok with that. You probably are too. I just prefer to keep dfk as an option for the girl to give it or not. It's not important for me. So true I do not get if often even from top provider.

You mention dt, ff, gb and all shit. Yep all things I do and have done. But very honestly the girl I have been seeing the most recently is a cbj 100% safe only girl. But you guys do not read those review I guess

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

Patron patron you should know better... Such a list is what it is... A list.

In reality she probably prefer golden shower over passionate kissing haha

Nice small boob girl tho. She would be my kind

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

Do lists reduce the awkwardness of a session?

A list is a list. It's a fucking marketing propaganda. It has nothing to do with the deeds. Life is like that. Do not believe list and be very suspicious when someone says he is the best. Haha the first sign someone is bullshitting you is when they say they are the best and so wonderful. Life if like that do not believe what people say or write believe what people do.

Cheers,

 

[Fradi]

Jali

I think you have watched Pretty Woman too many times.
You don’t believe lists, you think everything is a marketing tool ( here I am agreeing with you) but you actually believe kissing is too personal for a girl that is willing to do everything from anal to any kind of fantasy, for some you may be right, I won’t dispute something I don’t know for sure.

I think luckily there is room for everyone to find what they are looking for and there are wonderful women out there like my ATF like Julia and Alyssa that enjoy kissing and think like I do that it is a natural part of sex and not something reserved for people in love or their boyfriends.

I don’t have a problem if an escort thinks it is too personal, I just don’t book them, on the other hand I don’t have a problem booking an escort who won’t do anal or deep throat as those things are not important for me.

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

Guys, please, enough already ... or I will just have no illusions left to cling on to ... haha.

Oh boy Lol . Ain’t that the truth
I just came for the comments but now I kind of regret it

 

[cloudsurf]

Because DFK is so personal. Most girl keep it for their boyfriend and personal life. Most girl are not comfortable to dfk.

Cheers,

Jal, from my perspective your statement has no facts to back it up except maybe your own experience.
I don`t get it.....you are a good looking , funny and charming young man who seems to get the short end of YMMV when it comes to kissing.
From my end a majority of women I see will kiss me passionately or just sensually. Yes I`ve been turned down to kissing because they are saving themselves ….hell I`ve even been turned down for ball sucking because she was saving it for a future lover....

There is an art to erotic kissing...….some of you guys should learn it.

BTW I`m a guy who didn`t enjoy kissing and even refused to play spin the bottle as a teen.
I rarely kissed my wife when we had sex. It wasn`t till after my divorce when I was in my 40`s and met a gorgeous young Quebecois woman, that I learnt the art of kissing, and started developing my kinky side.

 

[Julia Sky]

Because DFK is so personal. Most girl keep it for their boyfriend and personal life. Most girl are not comfortable to dfk. And that includes many top stars, over 300$/hour girl and even girl that are involved in this thread

To me dfk isn’t any more personal than a blowjob. Lol try it in real life. Ask your female friends : if you had to choose right now, would you rather kiss me or suck my dick?

Also a little curious which girls you’re talking about when you say "girls that are involved in this thread" because so far there’s only me and Alyssa who got involved in the thread and we both have the same opinion about kissing, so I’m not sure what you mean. Don’t put thoughts into people’s heads or words into their mouths...

 

[The Nature Boy]

To me dfk isn’t any more personal than a blowjob. Lol try it in real life. Ask your female friends : if you had to choose right now, would you rather kiss me or suck my dick?
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well, when you put it like that, good point actually, lol!

I also don’t think most SP’s keep DFK for their personal life, lol. Again, if a girl, civilian or SP wants to do something with you, she’s gonna do it with you. Which is why this wish list/service list for johns I think is useless. Someone could write whatever the fuck they are willing to do with a client on there, it’s a totally different story once your in the room with them.

 

[Fradi]

Back in the 1950-1960 they used to have kissing booths at a lot of fairs, carnivals.
How times have changed, isn’t progress wonderful.

I guess now they will have to switch to suck my dick or fuck me in the ass booths as kissing has become taboo and more personal.

 

[jalimon]

Guys, girls do not mix this up with real life.

This hobby is not real life. Of course in real life dfk will go way over a blowjob. (Excepté ma voisine du haut il y as 15 ans quand j'habitais montreal... mais bon ca c'est une autre histoire hehe... et pis elle était rousse alors pas de sa faute... ).

Cloud, Fradi and others this is not about me. This is what I found out after 5 years in this hobby. I repeat again... Most girl, probably 75%, will not DFK you if you do not initiate it. Even if they list it. Even if booker says she will. Even... Nope if you do not initiate she will not dfk you. Simple. Now when you repeat once, twice or more... It's usually on. That's the way it is. If you still do not understand go back to read Eleganza'a girl post. She explain perfectly why.

Cheers,

 

[Fradi]

Jali,

As active as you are I don’t think you have fucked 75% of the girls out there so please stop making these sweeping statements.
The Eleganza girl I think most would agree hated her job and was probably pissed at having to even touch a guy as many of the posters in the thread stated.

I can only say that I have never had an issue with DFK, yes I do my research, or perhaps I am just plain lucky, either way there are enough wonderful women out there that you can find whatever you are looking for without too much problem.

 

[Flyingby]

Fradi. i don’t think she hated her job. I think she could anonymously say what she really thought of it.
I see 1 girl socially. And she told me the part she hates the most is dfking strangers.
Maybe there is a difference between agency girls and indy’s. The famous Lea would dfk me even before i had both feet in the door
Jalimon has had the chance to see many many girls socially. Probably more than most. So the dfk out of obligation makes a lot of sense when privately. Ladies have opened up

 

[candyman555]

How do you make a new post on this message board ?? thanks CM

 

[Flyingby]

How do you make a new post on this message board ?? thanks CM

You just did

 

[candyman555]

How do you make a new posting on this message board ? Thanks CM

 

[jalimon]

How do you make a new posting on this message board ? Thanks CM

Twice

Cheers,

 

[Fradi]

FB, Jali,

You guys really make me laugh sometimes.
Escorts do DFK out of obligation but suck your dick and let you fuck them in the ass because they love it.
Ok if you say so it must be true and of course they tell you this in social occasions.
I wouldn’t know the difference between agency girls and Indy’s as I have never been with an agency girl yet.
So far all the ones I have seen were Indys and they were all Merb advertisers.
They are all fabulous at DFK with my ATF being a magician at it.

The eleganza girl was one example I would think there are many that hate what they are doing some for valid reasons.
It can’t be an easy thing to meet and have sex with so many strangers, I can’t even imagine what effect this can have over a period of time.

 

[Flyingby]

Fradi. Don’t put words in my mouth.
I never talked about whether they love to suck dick or Greek. Although i hear many women orgasm from giving me a bbbj

We are ONLY talking about DFK in this thread
Maybe candyman555 can start a thread on greek

 

[Fradi]

Okay maybe wrong choice of words.
However it was definitely implied that DFK is much more personal and they have a way bigger issue with it than any other of the standard GFE acronyms that we use.
I don’t see it that way, most would prefer if you sent them an e transfer and said happy shopping.

Yes thread is about kissing but all of you have been comparing it to other options.

 

[jalimon]

Fradi your own experience here is not representative for the majority. The elite indy's you have been seeing are well known for their overall services.

Flyingby you are wrong most absolutely love to suck dick and have sex. Most would never do this otherwise. Even if the money is good.

Greek is another story because it's too demanding physically. But some do like it. I very rarely do it... Only when the girl end up asking for it will I do it.

So fradi put your mind to a current 20 year old good looking girl. The majority of these girl will give you a blowjob and fuck you with immense pleasure (in exchange for some cash of course) but would prefer not to french kiss you. At least not on the first meet.

Why is it so hard to understand that? I perfectly know I am right hehe

Cheers,