DFK - Am I the only one who dont mind the no kissing?

[Halloween Mike]

That said, many here mention how crucial DFK is for them, but failed to write about the girl. Are the girls really into it? All of them? My feeling and experience makes me repeat with girl that love what they do, that just love sex. But that said, many would much prefer to leave out DFK as when given the choice, they do not do it.

Cheers,

The reality is ... how much of them love sucking our dicks, or love taking our sperm in there mouth? Or even take our dicks in there vagina. The reality is... we don't know. I would say most of them "tolerate it" for the sake of doing this job. They "accept it" as part of the job. I am sure most of the ladies we see don't wake up thinking "oh yeah, im sooooo gonna work today, that will be so much fun" but its part of the model of what is accepted by the community. If she does it on her own free will (no pimp, no pressure) than its alright, she choose to do it, no matter why she need the money. So i guess as much as the rest of the service, kissing is the same. I know its not a good analogy and it can't really compare but if you would give me the choice of kissing a man deep with my tongue or sucking his dick, i would kiss him ... Or lets put it as totally hetero for the sake of it, if you give me the choice of kissing deeply a girl im really not into or doing daty on her. Ill kiss her. Unless that person male or female has very very bad breath, crooked teeths etc , then yeah i rather kiss than lick/sucks there genitals... And usually i think its a given that to expect kissing in a meeting, you MUST have a clean mouth. Teeth brush, mouth wash etc etc

I don't think kissing is wrong than other services provided... so why would it make them more unconfortable than BBBJ or whatever?

Maybe im just reasoning as a man....

 

[CLOUD 500]

DFK for me is mandatory. It is a must... It is the most enjoyable part... I can go hours and hours doing DFK. I also want DATY. The rest I am flexible with. I usually do stripper take out and accept CBJ... Not a huge deal breaker but DFK is mandatory. If no DFK I will not even bother with her. I had many strippers that would DFK but never do BBBJ. As for the girls they only do DFK as the clients demand it. If a client does not want it most girls are very relieved. They rather do FS club style service... FS doggystyle and CBJ. Nothing else.

 

[nycbadboy128]

Halloween Mike,

You hit some very good points! :thumb: If I were a male SP, I would also choose kissing (with my eyes closed of course!) over DATY on a female client that I was not in the least bit attracted to...but that is just me personally. We as customers may never know the real reason why kissing is more uncomfortable than BBBJ or vise versa.

But I have heard the following reasons/excuses from some ladies that I have gotten to know: kissing (especially DFK) is reserved for their real life boyfriends only, too much personal feelings are involved with open mouth kissing. And the funniest that I ever heard in regards to preference on giving oral to a customer over kissing, one lady told me that there is no face attached to a penis.

 

[clark_larson]

I don't kiss, it's too personnal and doesn't feel hygienic to me.

 

[jalimon]

I don't think kissing is wrong than other services provided... so why would it make them more unconfortable than BBBJ or whatever?

Maybe im just reasoning as a man....

You are reasoning as a wise man my friend

Your points are so clear it makes me think I may be missing out big time over my non dfk.

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

But I have heard the following reasons/excuses from some ladies that I have gotten to know: kissing (especially DFK) is reserved for their real life boyfriends only, too much personal feelings are involved with open mouth kissing.

I do really think that is currently what is holding me.

I still remember one of my first girlfriend. After giving me a blowjob for like 10 minutes she comes back up for some kissing but I kind move my head to avoid. She then said to me, hey ho big boy you think you are gonna refuse to kiss me because I just blow you? It will not go that way with me long... Hehe she made me learn a few things that girl

Cheers,

 

[jalimon]

Hey Jalimon,

I do not mind at all if the lady does not want to DFK. I would rather the lady feel most comfortable and not pressured to do something that she may not be completely comfortable doing whether it's a first time meeting or just in general. Case in point, I had seen a very popular and pretty young SP who barely even gave me LFK (more like a few "fish kisses") during our session but overall had a pretty good time with her in lieu of the basically non-existant kissing and I did see her 3 more times.

There were just some things about our first session that made me want to repeat. First off, the MAIN reason that I decided to see her again was because she sucked like a demon during BBBJ and sent my head to the moon! The other reasons was that she got really into it during the main event and MPOS were welcomed if not encouraged and she especially liked to cuddle and caress after my SOG's. She even ended up falling asleep with her head resting on my chest while I was stroking her hair. The next few sessions I had with her were very similar to what I just described with maybe a few extra "fish kisses" but never going for full on DFK.

Needless to say, I am ALWAYS freshly showered use cologne and mouthwash before every encounter so I know that it was definitely not because of my breath or hygiene but her own personal comfort level.

Got to say this is the kind of session I like and looking for!

Cheers,

 

[chowzilla]

for me its a must, I love the passion

However I disagree that all girls who are not into DFK, actually advertises it.
I have heard and experienced girls who simply turn their head or kiss in a way that you cannot DFK

also smokers also make a difference. girls can detect that ur a smoker even if you havent smoked for like 10hours

 

[anon_vlad]

I never call non-GFE agencies. I do everything I can to make an SP comfortable. I don't rush her. I offer snacks and drink, a clean environment, perfect personal hygiene and try to share the pleasure. However, if I still am not offered all the services of GFE (including kissing), I don't repeat and have even on occasion cut the session short.

Why settle when it is astonishing easy to book DDG GFE SPs in this city?

 

[hungry101]

For me DFK is mandatory for a good date.

It wasn't till I discovered MERB and TER and I learned how to search reviews and educate myself on the possibilities of a GFE encounter within this hobby did I learn to appreciate DFK. I think most of the pre-MERB encounters I had did not include DFK. My thoughts were of naked titties, eating pussy, and fucking. I have learned, though, that the DFK is really the most intimate and important part of the encounter. To a certain degree, everyone can do the other stuff (BBBJ, DATY, MPOS). What I remember most though is the passionate kissing pre-sex.

I value DFK and with a 3-sum I demand DFK between the two girls. That is so-so-sexy.

I do believe that we men have an obligation and responsibility if we are to expect DFK. Have your teeth cleaned regularly and have a flossing routine (not pre-date). You may try to purchase a few bleach kits and you should bleach and whiten your teeth pre-trip. Avoid eating garlic and onions. After you arrive buy a good disinfecting mouth wash and use it. Offer it to her after your 5-15 minute pre-date glass of wine. And for God's sake, do not try to stick your fat tongue down her throat with the first kiss. Take your time with pecks and LFK and remember the art of seduction.

 

[SylvainP]

Il y a une escorte que je rencontre à qui j'amène des truffes alcoolisées. Lors de notre dernière rencontre, plutôt que de croquer chacun dans le nôtre, j'en ai mis une entre mes dents pour qu'elle puisse le croquer... et nous nous sommes embrassés. Comment varier une situation déjà intéressante et en faire un jeu!

 

[jalimon]

Il y a une escorte que je rencontre à qui j'amène des truffes alcoolisées. Lors de notre dernière rencontre, plutôt que de croquer chacun dans le nôtre, j'en ai mis une entre mes dents pour qu'elle puisse le croquer... et nous nous sommes embrassés. Comment varier une situation déjà intéressante et en faire un jeu!

Bonne idée ca!

Cheers,

 

[Pattesdouces]

Pour ma part je préfère de loin une rencontre avec DFK.

C'est quelque chose que j'apprécie beaucoup et je prend la peine de valider si c'est offert avant de confirmer une rencontre.
À choisir entre les deux, je préférerais avoir une rencontre incluant CBJ avec DFK que BBBJ sans DFK.

Est-ce que je m'empêcherais de voir quelqu'un si le DFK n'est pas offert, probablement que non si la personne a de bonnes reviews et que son attitude est excellente, mais ce serait un facteur qui pourrait facilement faire pencher mon choix vers une autre personne qui offre le DFK même si sa réputation est moins grande.

En ce qui me concerne, le DFK devrait faire partie d'une expérience GFE, c'est principalement ce qui différencie un service standard du GFE selon moi.

Pattesdouces

 

[cpp433]

I dont do it 90% of the time, but like it available when i want it, i dont think a girl should be advertised as gfe without it of course, the problem with saying its ok to take something off the expected level of service is where does it stop? First its dfk, then daty, then msog, b4 u know itll be just as bad as the US, then therell be no reason to go to montreal at all

 

[Halloween Mike]

Personally i never understood the non-msog concept. Why would service stop because you poped? I mean even i pop i can still get hard or maybe semi-hard afterward, i can enjoy a BJ. Or what about just chilling out and enjoying the compagny of the SP, or some guys love a massage etc etc

You pay for an hour... you should get your hour.

 

[jalimon]

Personally i never understood the non-msog concept. Why would service stop because you poped? I mean even i pop i can still get hard or maybe semi-hard afterward, i can enjoy a BJ. Or what about just chilling out and enjoying the compagny of the SP, or some guys love a massage etc etc

You pay for an hour... you should get your hour.

Just for the record, the thread is really not about non-msog or other services that could disappear. It's quite the opposite actually, I think I may get great services at all time because I actually do not 'force' the girl to do something she might simply find too intimate (DFK). But by reading all your replies, I may be just plain wrong and simply missing out on great kissing...

Cheers,

 

[arthur_vandelay]

Guys, what percentage of girls from the top 5 agencies would you say are offering DFK? I would have said 80% a couple years ago, but more like 50% recently. Most of my recent experience is with Euphoria and I focus on the classier girls, so my sample might not be representative.

I am guessing all the girls nominated for SP of the year are enthusiastic DFKers. And the girls who don't offer it probably don't get a lot of regulars.

 

[BookerL]

Personally i never understood the non-msog concept. Why would service stop because you poped? I

Hello HM

Maybe
You have not been using those services long enough ?
Many Montreal Escorts Agencies use to battle on Best Prices ,that was between 2001 and end of 2004 .
The price was for One pop $90 or 1 hour which ever came first .
MAny calls where less then 10 minutes !Lol

Best services started after ,they are trends like in any other businesses




Cheers




Booker

 

[EagerBeaver]

Hello HM

Maybe
You have not been using those services long enough ?
Many Montreal Escorts Agencies use to battle on Best Prices ,that was between 2001 and end of 2004 .
The price was for One pop $90 or 1 hour which ever came first .
MAny calls where less then 10 minutes !Lol

Best services started after ,they are trends like in any other businesses




Cheers




Booker

You refer to the GFE Revolution, which started in around 2004. I am also old enough to remember the pre-2004 days, but Halloween Mike was in middle school at that time and still going trick or treating with his parents.

I remember a discussion on MERB at that time about MSOG. Allissa, then a popular agency owner I corresponded with by email and phone, once told me, "the rule is one cup of coffee per hour in the industry." That statement was made around 2002 and since then she has passed away, may her soul rest in peace.

Of core GFE services (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, MSOG), DFK has always been the most YMMV of them. If you are a guy who it's make or break that you have it, you have no idea how badly you are fucking yourselves in the ass, because some girls do come around on it after they get to know you. Highly YMMV and any well experienced person knows this.

 

[BookerL]

You refer to the GFE Revolution, which started in around 2004. I am also old enough to remember the pre-2004 days, but Halloween Mike was in middle school at that time and still going trick or treating with his parents.

I remember a discussion on MERB at that time about MSOG. Allissa, then a popular agency owner I corresponded with by email and phone, once told me, "the rule is one cup of coffee per hour in the industry." That statement was made around 2002 and since then she has passed away, may her soul rest in peace.

Of core GFE services (BBBJ, DATY, DFK, MSOG), DFK has always been the most YMMV of them. If you are a guy who it's make or break that you have it, you have no idea how badly you are fucking yourselves in the ass, because some girls do come around on it after they get to know you. Highly YMMV and any well experienced person knows this.

Yes EB the GFE revolution
When I first started as a agency operator, Kissing wasn't ever mentioned ,far from being offered




Cheers



Booker