Coronavirus

[The Nature Boy]

The covid-19 does not even effect 30% of the population.

What do you mean by this, and where r u getting this # Saul?

My and NJ reduction of cases I doubt has anything to do with herd immunity. It’s like sayin there’s great music comin out of Memphis because of Elvis, wishful
Thinking, that’s all it is. He’s dead. He really is. I’d say NJ, CT and a few other of those states is because they followed the guidelines.

What CNN and a ton of other American outlets are being politically correct about is not mentioning how much the protests played in propagating the virus. No one wants to even touch that shit, but to turn a blind eye is not gonna help the situation. I’m not talking about the looting, and crime, I’m talking about the peaceful gathering of thousands. A lot of whom were not wearing face masks are wearing them the wrong way and screaming the top of their lungs.

Having said that, there is a huge difference between these protests and Trump rally’s. The protests should not be used by trump and his team to say, if the left can gather so can we.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The protests did come at a terrible time and definitely didn't help matters as far as containing the pandemic. We had some protests in CT, but they were mostly small and peaceful.

 

[sene5hos]

On TV. A lady from Florida said I don't want to wear the mask, because 99.6% of people who have coronavirus recover from it.
Madam, you are miscalculating.
Confirmed cases of coronavirus: 3,290,000 and 135,000 dead = 4.1% died

La COVID-19 peut avoir des séquelles à plus long terme sur la santé de certains patients

Les scientifiques ne sont pas au bout de leur peine en découvrant que la COVID-19 pourrait avoir des conséquences à long terme sur certains patients.

www.journaldemontreal.com

Do you know the % of people who recover but remain with after-effects?
No, but we thought it was just a respiratory virus. Finally, it reaches the pancreas. It reaches the heart. It affects the liver, brain, kidneys and other organs. We didn't really realize that at the start, "said Dr. Eric Topol, cardiologist and director of the Scripps research institute in California, to the Reuters news agency.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The amount of people tested and the amount of cases shows the percentage, yes given that these people " may " catch it in the future. Lets use Italy for an example, 243,000 cases they and a population of 60 million the infection rate is ultra low, I was being more than generous with my 20% I think. As for the drop in cases you can not say it is due to social distancing or masks because not much has changed from day 1 to today from what I have seen. Either the people were in lineups outside before or in buildings today, the mask uses is still less than 20% from what I am seeing. Again with the generous 20%.
Having such a deadly virus that was to be the end all and you need a test to see if you even have it.. Well.
These are just my opinions and on other sites than this one many agree with me.

 

[The Nature Boy]

U can say what you want about the numbers in Italy and I can say they were splitting vents and ran out of icu beds, so poop, poop on your #’s luv.

And yes I can certainly say social distancing and better practices is what is causing demise of the rates of hospitalizations, # of deaths and % of people testing positive

 

[EagerBeaver]

4th of July lake celebrations cause Covid 19 cluster in Michigan:

Hundreds of people celebrated the July 4 weekend at a Michigan lake. Now some have Covid-19 | CNN

Health officials say those at higher risk of infection include party-goers who were in contact with people not wearing masks.

www.cnn.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

4th of July lake celebrations cause Covid 19 cluster in Michigan;

It should not be a surprise to anyone that numbers will go up when more people get together in large groups, the rise in numbers now should not scare people.
Some of you forget what flattening the curve was meant to do, drag this out, not stop it as this virus is not going away.
It should be expected to see numbers go up.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

U can say what you want about the numbers in Italy and I can say they were splitting vents and ran out of icu beds, so poop, poop on your #’s luv.

And yes I can certainly say social distancing and better practices is what is causing demise of the rates of hospitalizations, # of deaths and % of people testing positive

What does splitting ventilators have do with what I posted? The comment was not about overcrowded hospitals.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Prob nothing, had to figure out away to give that poop, poop line some punch

 

[donbusch]

Looks like first step being taken towards removing Dr. Fauci, think he’ll be fired or reassigned in a month or two. There’s really not much anyone can do to discredit Dr. Fauci. He has certainly earned his credibility & his advice on the coronavirus has been similar to other health authorities among the developed nations.

White House seeks to discredit Fauci in memo leaked to reporters

The White House has taken the unusual step of attacking Dr. Anthony Fauci in a document released to several media outlets that seeks to damage his reputation.

abcnews.go.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Tillerson
Priebus
Mulvaney
Mattis
Kelly

Do you think Fauci will end up on dancing with the stars?

 

[sene5hos]

'Public enemy number one': WHO sounds alarm as global coronavirus cases surpass 13 million

Parts of the world, especially the United States with more than 3.3 million confirmed cases, are still seeing huge increases in a first wave of COVID-19 infections,…

nationalpost.com

Coronavirus infections rose above 13 million across the world on Monday, according to a Reuters tally, climbing by one million in just five days in a pandemic that has killed more than half a million people.

World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said there would be no return to the old normal for the foreseeable future, with too many countries headed in the wrong direction.

“The virus remains public enemy number one,” he told a virtual briefing from WHO headquarters in Geneva.

“If basics are not followed, the only way this pandemic is going to go, it is going to get worse and worse and worse. But it does not have to be this way.”

The Reuters global tally, which is based on government reports, shows the disease is accelerating the fastest in Latin America. The Americas account for more than half the world’s infections and half the deaths.

 

[sene5hos]

Looks like first step being taken towards removing Dr. Fauci, think he’ll be fired or reassigned in a month or two. There’s really not much anyone can do to discredit Dr. Fauci. He has certainly earned his credibility & his advice on the coronavirus has been similar to other health authorities among the developed nations.

White House seeks to discredit Fauci in memo leaked to reporters

The White House has taken the unusual step of attacking Dr. Anthony Fauci in a document released to several media outlets that seeks to damage his reputation.

abcnews.go.com

Donbusch, I didn't know that.
Another one who will be off track.
There I am completely disillusioned.

 

[Fradi]

Again I disagree about Dr. Fauci.
He misled everyone in the beginning with down playing this whole pandemic in February and March and telling people masks were not necessary at all and could actually give you a false sense of security and make things worse. He said go on a cruise if you want.
He was nothing but a mouth piece and brown nose for the WH administration.
Now that things have totally soured and gone totally out of control, and It is obvious to anyone who has a brain, he is trying to save his ass by finally doing what as a leading professional expert he should have done in the first place.

I have no sympathy for brown noses .
Dont take a job if you are not willing to take the consequences of doing the right thing.
If you want to be famous in front of the world then do it for something that will help humanity and not for fame and your personal gain.

 

[sene5hos]

Fradi, I agree with many of your findings, but there are others thing to consider.

Dr. Fauci, like all health directors around the world, had never faced such a toxic virus. At first we didn't even know that contagion could occur between asymptomatic people.

And another fundamental thing is that almost everywhere in the world public health officials were supported, but he was not.

This is fundamental, when Dr. Fauci said something and your President arrived in public and did exactly the opposite.

Yes, he should have immediately resigned, as a lot of people around the President did

 

[IamNY]

Looks like governor Cuomo is stepping up his efforts for quarantining out of state travelers:

Governor Cuomo now mandating quarantine for travelers with penalties of $2,000 | amNewYork

Governor Andrew Cuomo has tasked Port Authority with ordering arrivals into New York airports from COVID-19 heavy states to hunker down for 14-days, and

www.amny.com

 

[Fradi]

Dr Fauci is the number one infectious disease expert supposedly in the US.
He has faced Ebola and countless other infectious diseases throughout his career.
I have no doubt in my mind he knew right from the beginning how potentially dangerous this virus can be.
If he had to play lip services to the WH then he should have resigned, I doubt he will ever have to pick fruit for a living.
Unfortunatey like for many fame and having people all around the world hang on your every word does strange things to people. He is not the first one to succumb to this nor the last.

This however is not an excuse we should accept other than he is human and therefore corruptible by fame and the spotlight.
Trying to make him out to be some kind of hero is totally wrong in my book.

 

[cloudsurf]

Fauci lied or he is incompetent. I think he lied.
He may have lied for a noble reason....to avoid panic and hysterical buying like this toilet paper fiasco.
He most definitely lied when he downplayed the efficacy of masks to the general public. There was a shortage of masks and he wanted to protect the limited supply for healthcare nurses and medics , and first responders. His intentions were good but the consequence was that thousands of lives were lost that shouldn`t have been.

 

[Fradi]

He lied repeatedly, I don’t think he is incompetent, down playing the virus for the first two months completely, not just about the masks.
I remember him saying there is no reason not to go on a cruise that they are relatively safe and well controlled.

I think he struggled continually with his conscience, you could see it on his face sometimes when Trump would get up and make one stupid comment after another with the Clorox and other stuff, not knowing how to disagree and still be able save his job in the spotlight.
Unfortunately his ego won right up to the point where now you don’t need to be an an expert to realize that it is totally out of control in all but 3-4 states.

 

[Longeldak]

Dr Fauci is the number one infectious disease expert supposedly in the US.

That is open to interpretation, to say the least.

He has faced Ebola and countless other infectious diseases throughout his career.

A gay friend who is a world-class doctor himself (top oncologist in one of the leading hospitals) is extremely critical of Fauci's work on HIV. There is an excellent book documenting (among other things) that part of his illustrious career.

Nothing political, by the way, the guy is a Trump hater with the best of them.