Coronavirus

[donbusch]

Just to point out, the states with ultra high infection rates in the beginning are now the ones being the better state for infections, makes you wonder about herd immunity as some people dismiss.

Spain did an extensive study involving 60,000 people and estimate that only 5% of the Spanish population had antibodies against the coronavirus.

Coronavirus: Spanish study casts doubt on herd immunity feasibility

A Lancet study estimates that around just 5% of the Spanish population has developed antibodies.

www.bbc.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Just to point out, the states with ultra high infection rates in the beginning are now the ones being the better state for infections, makes you wonder about herd immunity as some people dismiss.

It’s not heard immunity. Eager beavers state Ct has a low as F rate of infections, no ones died and hospitalizations are low. It’s because they are following the CdC’s Guidelines to the tee. It’s not heard immunity, it that the virus isn’t really circulating in the community. Not heard immunity. CityMd, a franchise priority care facility is stating that in the area of queens NYC which got hit like a bitch they are finding close to 60-70% + antibodies in people who are requesting antibody testing. This is the area where they had fridge trucks to pack bodies outside the hospital. The are of queens where trump grew up. Maybe they hit herd? Who knows? However if you take all of NYC, highly unlikely, and especially the whole state of NY has not achieved heard immunity.

 

[EagerBeaver]

From what I have observed here in CT that is correct. Local businesses in my community have been very aggressive applying the CDC guidelines. My liquor store down the road has a sign in front that says "DO NOT ENTER WITHOUT MASK", and the supermarkets are doing the same. It's because the Governor threatened their asses with shutdown if they did not obey CDC guidelines. The governments of the States have to take the lead, and lead. That is why the Sensational 6 are the Sensational 6. Maine was the strictest State of all 50 States and look at their actual case rates. Very low. They did not actually reopen until well into June. All of the Sensational 6 states had later reopening and more rigid guidelines than the other States.

And I hate to say I told you so to our friends down in Texas, but they all were behaving like "its a NY and CT problem" back in April, and acting like things would return to normal there because it was not really an issue. And that attitude got their whole state in trouble and now all of us have quarantined against Texas.

 

[cloudsurf]

SolT there is no herd immunity against the coronavirus anywhere in the world....and it won`t happen till there is an effective vaccine that is given to 95% of the world in a relatively short window of time.
There is mounting evidence that CV antibodies fade after several months .

 

[The Nature Boy]

From what I have observed here in CT that is correct. Local businesses in my community have been very aggressive applying the CDC guidelines. My liquor store down the road has a sign in front that says "DO NOT ENTER WITHOUT MASK", and the supermarkets are doing the same. It's because the Governor threatened their asses with shutdown if they did not obey CDC guidelines. The governments of the States have to take the lead, and lead. That is why the Sensational 6 are the Sensational 6. Maine was the strictest State of all 50 States and look at their actual case rates. Very low. They did not actually reopen until well into June. All of the Sensational 6 states had later reopening and more rigid guidelines than the other States.

And I hate to say I told you so to our friends down in Texas, but they all were behaving like "its a NY and CT problem" back in April, and acting like things would return to normal there because it was not really an issue. And that attitude got their whole state in trouble and now all of us have quarantined against Texas.

Same in NJ, they got the former CDC director advising Murphy. But they got the shore. @ beginning of whole pandemic Murphy tried to be nice and was telling all the bars down there to act wisely but....nope, everyone was packin’ in the bars, shoulder to shoulder, this was in March when weather showed point of getting nice and Murphy was like “I was nice, tried letting you guys be responsible” didn’t work and shit down. They got decent #’s now.

I still think Cuomo is gettin more hype than he deserves. A lot of governors have done well and better than him. Especially EB’s boy Lamont. I would still take cuomo over trump. Cuomo asked for the field hospitals the navy ship and army core of engineers, no way trump woulda sent that on his own. Hes having rally’s putting true self made entrepreneurs like Herman in the hospital.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Coronavirus: Fake cures in Latin America’s deadly outbreak

The desperate search for a cure has led people to 'harmful and ineffective' alternatives online.

www.bbc.com

Kinda think they should not completely forget about doin more trials with hydroxychloroquine as prophylactic against covid or giving it early on and see what results are. Prob is in Brazil testing is shitty. You would need to have a quick turn around time and not limit testing to set criteria. Someone feels sick, they get tested, get results back quick, and if positive can start med. provided they get baseline ecg to make sure nothing shaky goin on there

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

SolT there is no herd immunity against the coronavirus anywhere in the world....and it won`t happen till there is an effective vaccine that is given to 95% of the world in a relatively short window of time.
There is mounting evidence that CV antibodies fade after several months .

The flu vaccine is only good for 70% of the population, what makes you think this one will be better. The covid-19 does not even effect 30% of the population.
As for herd immunity, I was using NY & NJ as an example to their drastic reduction in cases because a majority of those to catch it ( it you are meant to catch this you will be it now or in 6 months ) have caught it.
I would like to see a study of people who had the virus catching it again and then dying, my guess is no one or an ultra low number.

 

[cloudsurf]

How effective a vaccine is , is based mostly how fast a virus mutates. Most flu and cold viruses mutate pretty fast......but we don`t know much yet about our novel friend..

 

[EagerBeaver]

Florida has shattered the single day USA record for Covid 19 cases:

Florida shatters US record for new single-day Covid-19 cases | CNN

Across the country, more than half the states are dealing with increased rates of new cases compared to last week. And more than half the states have paused or rolled back their reopening plans in hopes of getting coronavirus under control.

www.cnn.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

The crisis in elder care homes across the USA is discussed here:

Coronavirus: How bad is the crisis in US care homes?

America's elderly are dying at an alarming rate in care homes, but the picture remains incomplete.

www.bbc.com

 

[sene5hos]

Been to a bar this month? Go get tested for COVID-19, Montreal urges

At least five bars on the island of Montreal have reported customers or employees were carrying the coronavirus, health officials said.

montrealgazette.com

Dr. David Kaiser, a Montreal public health official, is concerned about the transmission of COVID-19 in bars and is recommending patrons get tested for the virus.

“There are at least five bars in Montreal which have reported cases of COVID-19 among patrons or staff and we’ve identified eight people who have been infected,” Kaiser said. “We know there are probably more cases out and we want to get out in front of this before we find ourselves dealing with a second wave.”

Kaiser said bars pose more problems than restaurants. He noted the layout of most bars allows for mingling and people might be less likely to follow the rules on social distancing after a few drinks.

The city has the power to intervene if there are continuing problems with an individual bar, but Kaiser said if there was a wide-scale problem in the industry, the city would have to take its concerns to the province for action.

The coronavirus prowls and waits for its prey, and there it's full.

 

[The Nature Boy]

The covid-19 does not even effect 30% of the population.

What do you mean by this, and where r u getting this # Saul?

My and NJ reduction of cases I doubt has anything to do with herd immunity. It’s like sayin there’s great music comin out of Memphis because of Elvis, wishful
Thinking, that’s all it is. He’s dead. He really is. I’d say NJ, CT and a few other of those states is because they followed the guidelines.

What CNN and a ton of other American outlets are being politically correct about is not mentioning how much the protests played in propagating the virus. No one wants to even touch that shit, but to turn a blind eye is not gonna help the situation. I’m not talking about the looting, and crime, I’m talking about the peaceful gathering of thousands. A lot of whom were not wearing face masks are wearing them the wrong way and screaming the top of their lungs.

Having said that, there is a huge difference between these protests and Trump rally’s. The protests should not be used by trump and his team to say, if the left can gather so can we.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The protests did come at a terrible time and definitely didn't help matters as far as containing the pandemic. We had some protests in CT, but they were mostly small and peaceful.

 

[sene5hos]

On TV. A lady from Florida said I don't want to wear the mask, because 99.6% of people who have coronavirus recover from it.
Madam, you are miscalculating.
Confirmed cases of coronavirus: 3,290,000 and 135,000 dead = 4.1% died

La COVID-19 peut avoir des séquelles à plus long terme sur la santé de certains patients

Les scientifiques ne sont pas au bout de leur peine en découvrant que la COVID-19 pourrait avoir des conséquences à long terme sur certains patients.

www.journaldemontreal.com

Do you know the % of people who recover but remain with after-effects?
No, but we thought it was just a respiratory virus. Finally, it reaches the pancreas. It reaches the heart. It affects the liver, brain, kidneys and other organs. We didn't really realize that at the start, "said Dr. Eric Topol, cardiologist and director of the Scripps research institute in California, to the Reuters news agency.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The amount of people tested and the amount of cases shows the percentage, yes given that these people " may " catch it in the future. Lets use Italy for an example, 243,000 cases they and a population of 60 million the infection rate is ultra low, I was being more than generous with my 20% I think. As for the drop in cases you can not say it is due to social distancing or masks because not much has changed from day 1 to today from what I have seen. Either the people were in lineups outside before or in buildings today, the mask uses is still less than 20% from what I am seeing. Again with the generous 20%.
Having such a deadly virus that was to be the end all and you need a test to see if you even have it.. Well.
These are just my opinions and on other sites than this one many agree with me.

 

[The Nature Boy]

U can say what you want about the numbers in Italy and I can say they were splitting vents and ran out of icu beds, so poop, poop on your #’s luv.

And yes I can certainly say social distancing and better practices is what is causing demise of the rates of hospitalizations, # of deaths and % of people testing positive

 

[EagerBeaver]

4th of July lake celebrations cause Covid 19 cluster in Michigan:

Hundreds of people celebrated the July 4 weekend at a Michigan lake. Now some have Covid-19 | CNN

Health officials say those at higher risk of infection include party-goers who were in contact with people not wearing masks.

www.cnn.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

4th of July lake celebrations cause Covid 19 cluster in Michigan;

It should not be a surprise to anyone that numbers will go up when more people get together in large groups, the rise in numbers now should not scare people.
Some of you forget what flattening the curve was meant to do, drag this out, not stop it as this virus is not going away.
It should be expected to see numbers go up.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

U can say what you want about the numbers in Italy and I can say they were splitting vents and ran out of icu beds, so poop, poop on your #’s luv.

And yes I can certainly say social distancing and better practices is what is causing demise of the rates of hospitalizations, # of deaths and % of people testing positive

What does splitting ventilators have do with what I posted? The comment was not about overcrowded hospitals.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Prob nothing, had to figure out away to give that poop, poop line some punch