Coronavirus

[sene5hos]

Fradi, I agree with many of your findings, but there are others thing to consider.

Dr. Fauci, like all health directors around the world, had never faced such a toxic virus. At first we didn't even know that contagion could occur between asymptomatic people.

And another fundamental thing is that almost everywhere in the world public health officials were supported, but he was not.

This is fundamental, when Dr. Fauci said something and your President arrived in public and did exactly the opposite.

Yes, he should have immediately resigned, as a lot of people around the President did

 

[IamNY]

Looks like governor Cuomo is stepping up his efforts for quarantining out of state travelers:

Governor Cuomo now mandating quarantine for travelers with penalties of $2,000 | amNewYork

Governor Andrew Cuomo has tasked Port Authority with ordering arrivals into New York airports from COVID-19 heavy states to hunker down for 14-days, and

www.amny.com

 

[Fradi]

Dr Fauci is the number one infectious disease expert supposedly in the US.
He has faced Ebola and countless other infectious diseases throughout his career.
I have no doubt in my mind he knew right from the beginning how potentially dangerous this virus can be.
If he had to play lip services to the WH then he should have resigned, I doubt he will ever have to pick fruit for a living.
Unfortunatey like for many fame and having people all around the world hang on your every word does strange things to people. He is not the first one to succumb to this nor the last.

This however is not an excuse we should accept other than he is human and therefore corruptible by fame and the spotlight.
Trying to make him out to be some kind of hero is totally wrong in my book.

 

[cloudsurf]

Fauci lied or he is incompetent. I think he lied.
He may have lied for a noble reason....to avoid panic and hysterical buying like this toilet paper fiasco.
He most definitely lied when he downplayed the efficacy of masks to the general public. There was a shortage of masks and he wanted to protect the limited supply for healthcare nurses and medics , and first responders. His intentions were good but the consequence was that thousands of lives were lost that shouldn`t have been.

 

[Fradi]

He lied repeatedly, I don’t think he is incompetent, down playing the virus for the first two months completely, not just about the masks.
I remember him saying there is no reason not to go on a cruise that they are relatively safe and well controlled.

I think he struggled continually with his conscience, you could see it on his face sometimes when Trump would get up and make one stupid comment after another with the Clorox and other stuff, not knowing how to disagree and still be able save his job in the spotlight.
Unfortunately his ego won right up to the point where now you don’t need to be an an expert to realize that it is totally out of control in all but 3-4 states.

 

[Longeldak]

Dr Fauci is the number one infectious disease expert supposedly in the US.

That is open to interpretation, to say the least.

He has faced Ebola and countless other infectious diseases throughout his career.

A gay friend who is a world-class doctor himself (top oncologist in one of the leading hospitals) is extremely critical of Fauci's work on HIV. There is an excellent book documenting (among other things) that part of his illustrious career.

Nothing political, by the way, the guy is a Trump hater with the best of them.

 

[minutemenX]

Fauci lied or he is incompetent. I think he lied.

Trump is a salesman. So, he lies as he breathes, and people can expect that. Fauci positions himself foremost as a scientist. For a scientist intentional lie is a mortal sin notwithstanding the motivation. If you are caught of an intentional lie in hard sciences like physics, mathematics etc. you are immediately expelled from the community. I bet he would never claim this nonsense about masks and some other stuff in a paper for a peer reviewed journal. So why lying to the general public for a political expediency is acceptable?

 

[The Nature Boy]

Faucis not a fibbin, he just tellin bitches what they don’t wanna hear cause they in denial. Reading some of these posts is like reading the revenge reviews some F’ers put up after the SP doesn’t DFK them or let them do something

 

[minutemenX]

Faucis not a fibbin, he just tellin bitches what they don’t wanna hear cause they in denial. Reading some of these posts is like reading the revenge reviews some F’ers put up after the SP doesn’t DFK them or let them do something

On the other side there are always white knight F’kers trashing any critical review of their favorite SP

 

[EagerBeaver]

I somewhat agree with Fradi's criticisms of Dr. Fauci, but it was not just him but MANY in the US medical profession who misled us. As I said in late December 2019 my pulmonologist and I had a long conversation about the possible impact of Covid 19 and he told me "it will be no worse than a new strain of the flu" and not to worry about it. He was parroting what everyone else thought at the vast health network that covers much of my State.

However this is not the reason why Fauci will be fired. His firing sets him up as a fall guy, someone Trump can credibly finger point to for part of the blame. Note that I said part of the blame because I do believe the medical profession in the USA is worthy of some blame on this. Of course Fauci, expert though he is in infectious diseases, and like everyone else in the medical profession, had no experience in dealing with Covid 19. That experience is still being developed.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Fauci obviously is protecting the CDC, redfield and alazar but to accuse the guy of lying?? Lol, this shit flew outta a bat and landed on some Chinese persons nose and that’s how this ALL STARTED. It’s a new virus, you kinda have to go along and figure stuff out.

What surprised me the most is some of the old F’ers out there running their mouths. Like isn’t this the second go around? Do you all have short memories? Like there was a time where people didn’t know shit about HIV. You think rock Hudson’s, Freddie mercuries, and eazy E’s docs were all incompetent, making shit up and lying?

Keep skinny dippin in denial boys

 

[cloudsurf]

Hey my fine feathered friend why not catch up on the news. Fauci recently admitted that he lied about the masks a few months ago . He did so to protect the limited supply. He also downplayed the dangers of the virus back in February/ March in a TV interview.

 

[The Nature Boy]

He admitted that he LIED ABOUT IT???

 

[fromtheoutside]

He admitted that he LIED ABOUT IT???

He did.

But understandable why you may have missed it as CNN probably didn’t report on it.

 

[sene5hos]

Florida recorded 15,300 new cases on Sunday, the most since the pandemic began.
Florida surpassed the total for New York at the height of the pandemic.

 

[The Nature Boy]

He did.

But understandable why you may have missed it as CNN probably didn’t report on it.

Listen dude, that chic correspondent sitting by the desk is saying he lied, u dingo. Fauci is not saying “I may have fibbed a little”. Fauci is saying we told people not wear masks because there were none to go around. He’s been saying that for months? He saying keep it for Medical personnel

 

[fromtheoutside]

Strange, I always thought they said not to wear them and save them for frontline workers because they would not help us in any way (which is the lie that people think he told)

I’m sure you’re right, I’m just a dingo.

 

[sene5hos]

New York Governor Cuomo to Decide in August on Schools Reopening

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) held a briefing on the state's response to the coronavirus pandemic. He outlined the state's school reopening guidelines and criticized President Trump's approach to schools. He also criticized the federal government's overall response to the pandemic and other...

www.c-span.org

New York Governor Cuomo Coronavirus News Conference.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) held a briefing on the state’s response to the coronavirus pandemic. Gov. Cuomo outlined the state’s school reopening guidelines.

He expressed concern over the possibility that a traveler could bring COVID-19 to New York and cause another outbreak.

First day 0 deaths, since the middle of March.
Well done Governor Cuomo

 

[The Nature Boy]

Strange, I always thought they said not to wear them and save them for frontline workers because they would not help us in any way (which is the lie that people think he told)

I’m sure you’re right, I’m just a dingo.

Why the hell would he tell people not to wear a mask saying it doesn’t help them but then say keep it for dr’s?

When this shit started, people started hoarding n-95s and surgical masks which are two different things. The n -95s protect you from someone’s koodies and them from yours. People were buying this shit up right and left and the medical personal who needed them had to use a mask which should be used once for like two weeks. Hence he said do not buy these, you have to also have them fitted towards your face for them to be effective.

With respect to the surgical masks, people started buying the shit out of these. he said they don’t protect you, they only protect someone your near if your infected. Do not buy them. You know how many people still to this day wear surgical and cloth masks thinking they are keeping themselves safe??!!

In Asian countries like Malaysia, since pore, Taiwan, if you have traveled there they wear masks left and write and pretty much had the mentality which the USA still hasn’t F’ing caught on to is if your wearing one and I’m wearing a surgical mask we are both protected

No one lied?? Now he is being redfield and alazars bitch.

 

[EagerBeaver]

No one lied?? Now he is being redfield and alazars bitch.

When you are in politics and you are not top dog, you are always someone's bitch. The only one in DC who is not someone's bitch is Trump, cuz he be the top dog- for now.