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Yes, I think, on the contrary, he did an excellent job. We hit an invisible wall.
With a completely unknown virus, 6 months ago, I think there would not have been many Republican governors who would have done better.


Yes it's true, because those on the right, never have anything encouraging to say.
32,000 NY deaths vs 3,400 Florida deaths
 
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32,000 NY deaths vs 3,400 Florida deaths

Part of that might be due to Florida still undergoing its first wave while New York was hit earlier and felt the full brunt. We’ll know more in the coming weeks.

But it also raises an interesting point which is that coronavirus fatality rates r falling due to improved clinical practices like substituting the dreaded intubation w/ proning and altering the oxygen supply. Sometimes altering our processes & behavior is more important than waiting for some miracle drug or vaccine that may or may not be invented.

Not to sound morbid, will the reduced fatality rate mean longer ICU hospitalizations? Ironically that might mean a higher probability of the entire healthcare system being overwhelmed which is when everything else including the economy collapses.
 

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32,000 NY deaths vs 3,400 Florida deaths

As long as Florida doesn't send their nursing home patients to their deaths like governor Cuomo did they won't even come close.
 

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As long as Florida doesn't send their nursing home patients to their deaths like governor Cuomo did they won't even come close.

the large number of deaths in ny state does not appear to be due to a disproportionate number of nursing home deaths. according to a recent ny times report, 21% of the deaths in ny state resulted from nursing home infections- this is the lowest in the country and far below the national average of 43%
 

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But it also raises an interesting point which is that coronavirus fatality rates r falling due to improved clinical practices like substituting the dreaded intubation w/ proning and altering the oxygen supply. Sometimes altering our processes & behavior is more important than waiting for some miracle drug or vaccine that may or may not be invented.

This raises the interesting question of whether too much oxygen may assist the virus in flourishing and replicating. I think researchers have been struck by the enormously high fatality rate once someone goes on a ventilator for a while now. Although I am not an expert on the procedure, my understanding is that usually a ventilator is not removed until a patient begins breathing normally. This may not be a correct expectation with Covid 19. Perhaps reducing the oxygen levels to the level necessary for the patient to breathe and get enough oxygen- rather than normal oxygen- is a better strategy, or varying the levels as you say.

I unfortunately watched someone I know die of lung cancer in 2019. At the very end the cancer was no longer being treated but he was being given morphine (to suppress respiratory effort), anti-anxiety meds (so he would not freak out) and maximum oxygen. The last time I saw him was around 36 hours before his death, in the ICU of a hospital. I could tell just by his breathing, which was in short, quick bursts, that he was not getting enough oxygen despite the maximum intake. He could not talk. The only thing I would have asked him is whether he was comfortable. Looking at him, I could not tell. Because of the breathing, I am guessing not. All we were able to do was shake hands. As I said goodbye, he grabbed my hand and shook it firmly. This was of course pre-Covid.

This makes me wonder as well whether morphine gets administered to Covid patients on ventilators to suppress their respiratory effort, and whether those clinical techniques have proven effective in conjunction with varying the supply of oxygen.
 
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the large number of deaths in ny state does not appear to be due to a disproportionate number of nursing home deaths. according to a recent ny times report, 21% of the deaths in ny state resulted from nursing home infections- this is the lowest in the country and far below the national average of 43%.

I get it, so because governor Cuomo only killed nursing home patients that amounts to 21% according to the leader of fake news, The NY Times, it’s not such a big deal. A fifth of ALL nursing home deaths in the USA happened in the state of NY. And it didn’t have to be that way. It was governor Cuomo who sent Covid-19 positive seniors back to nursing homes to further the spread and killing our most vulnerable. NY could have been the safest place for nursing home patients across the country had it not been for the governor.

 

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Side effects of COVID-19

My uncle for several years was leaving for Florida (yes, he is a snowbird).
This year he came back earlier, like many, and this year in the fall he will not go.

Anyway Insurance companies don't want the insured if they have COVID-19
He is afraid of going to Florida.
 

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The Canadian US border may still be closed in November so snow birds will have no choice but to stay put. Also the new cases and deaths in Quebec yesterday is not encouraging at all.
 

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Some more stats that you may not want to hear.
In Quebec the population that is between 20 and 30 is 1/8 th of the population.
During the last month that age group which includes most escorts, also made up 1/4 of those testing positive for covid19.

On another note , the city of Ottawa will mandate that everyone wear masks in public places. Will that include contact agencies ,clubs and MA salons ? Most likely.
Will that law come to Montreal?
 

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Enjoyed a nice little din din with the kiddo @ a pub with outside seating and people watched. The few and far between are not wearing any masks, so I guess that’s a good sign
 
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Evan the strong and the young can succumb to Covid-19! The SARS-CoV-2 virus is not a joke and it's NOT harmless!!!!

(On a positive note, I was watching the musical "Hamilton" on Disney Plus. I'm half way through. It's very good and inspiring--oh how I wish we could all safely return to the theaters, cinemas, stadiums, bars, restaurants, etc.)

Broadway star Nick Cordero dies at 41 after coronavirus struggle highlighted by wife Amanda Kloots


"Cordero was admitted to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles in late March for what was initially thought to be pneumonia. A first coronavirus test came up negative, though a subsequent test was positive for COVID-19."

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"Over the course of 13 weeks, Cordero faced a multitude of serious complications, including a leg amputation, infections in his lungs and the insertion of a temporary pacemaker.

The Canadian-born actor earned a Tony Award nomination in 2014 for his role in "Bullets Over Broadway" and also starred in productions of "Rock of Ages," "Waitress" and "A Bronx Tale.""

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"The Broadway star regained consciousness in early May after months of being comatose, but Kloots said her husband still couldn't move or talk by mid-June, in part because of significant weight loss due to muscle atrophy.

"He can’t talk because of the ventilator. … But he’s awake and he’s in there," Kloots said on June 18. "He's so weak. He still can't move and his muscles are definitely atrophying. He's lost 65 pounds.""

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"The virus has sickened other Broadway veterans, including actors Danny Burstein, Brian Stokes Mitchell, Gavin Creel, Aaron Tveit and Laura Bell Bundy, as well as composer David Bryan. It also claimed the life of Tony-winning playwright Terrence McNally."
 
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Felt really sad about Nick Cordero, thought he was finally improving. The coronavirus is really a multi-organ disease - attacked his leg, lungs & heart. After 13 weeks of hell, hope that Nick has finally found peace.
 

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There was an outbreak of covid-19 detected in a bar in the Dix-Trente (Mile Public House) district.
The customers didn't respect the rules of distancing.
Is it gone again?

A rotten apple and the whole basket will be contaminated.
It's because of bar owners like him that everyone who enforced the rules will pay.

Besides, he has just been banned from his association.
 

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I was watching the White House press briefing today and thought one thing mentioned by the press secretary - the case fatality rate (CFR) Was interesting. Hopefully, without getting political I’d be interested in what you guys thought about the following chart which is similar to the one during the press briefing. I know you can pretty much find any statistic to prove your point, but I found this one interesting because not a single reporter questioned it which made me curious.





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I would expect the case fatality rate to drop as more of the general public is tested. But it doesn`t look like it.
 

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Soon Montreal will make wearing masks mandatory for enclosed public places. That I guess would include shopping centers, super markets but what about in calls and massage salons .
 
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