Coronavirus

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^ I think he was trying to make a point of Fauci recommending to shutdown bars, beauty salons, restaurants and various other places but he will not say to limit protesters.
Seems like a reasonable question to me. I really do wonder why our entire economy shutdown while the big box stores were allowed to stay open, did anyone see mass amounts of their employees dying, did they need to shutdown if someone got sick ( probably a tiny percentage, less than the 0.04% US fatality rate ).

 

[The Nature Boy]

How can you limit a protest? Jimmy J was asking about the BLM stuff, but neglected to ask about all the hillbillies running around packin’ heat with confessor flags behind their trucks lol. Anywhoo, he’s used to looking the other way

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jim-jordan-accused-of-begging-former-ohio-state-wrestler-not-to-support-reports-of-sexual-abuse/2020/02/12/395e7314-4ded-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html

 

[cloudsurf]

, less than the 0.04% US fatality rate ).

Wher did you get that figure SolT ? It`s over 3% at the end of July.

 

[IamNY]

Jim Jordan was being disrespectful. But he did make a great point by showing that Dr. Fauci makes recommendations all the time on many different topics and he needs to be more mindful of what he says.

 

[donbusch]

Jim Jordan just comes off as a pissed off ex high school phys Ed teacher

Jim Jordan’s pissed that his favorite erotic massage parlor got shut down by coronavirus safe distancing measures.

Angry Jimmy: “Why, Dr Fauci? Why can people be allowed to protest grave injustices but my little weiner can’t get his rub n’ tug? It ain’t hurting nobody. Why??!!”

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Wher did you get that figure SolT ? It`s over 3% at the end of July.

My error kind of, I am taking the population not cases.

 

[IamNY]

Wher did you get that figure SolT ? It`s over 3% at the end of July.

The Spanish flu pandemic in the early 1900’s had a death rate of 2.5% and an estimate 50 million + people died. It‘s also very difficult to determine this number during a pandemic. If your saying it’s currently over 3% there would be a lot more deaths than we currently have. STN’s .04% is more accurate.

1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

www.cdc.gov

 

[sene5hos]

The coronavirus is not at all controlled.

Brazil is increasingly losing control.
Australia is reconfining.
In the US yesterday it was 5 consecutive days of over 60,000 new cases and over 1,000 deaths.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Jimmy J's aggressive cross examination of Dr. Fauci was grandstanding pure and simple. What Fauci should have responded was that protests do not have to happen with crowds. There are many different methods of protesting and some are safe and some are not. For example online posts are a safe method of protest. Crowding elbow to elbow with people who aren't wearing masks is not a safe method of protest.

If anyone is wondering where Jimmy J cultivated his aggression he was NCAA national wrestling champion 1985 and 1986 in the 134 pound class.

 

[cloudsurf]

Waloo numbers don`t lie. Take a look at the number of deaths compared to the number of confirmed cases in the US as well as worldwide and then do the division. You will arrive at over 3%. That percent will probably go down over time.

The Spanish flu pandemic in the early 1900’s had a death rate of 2.5% and an estimate 50 million + people died. It‘s also very difficult to determine this number during a pandemic. If your saying it’s currently over 3% there would be a lot more deaths than we currently have. STN’s .04% is more accurate.

1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

www.cdc.gov

 

[sene5hos]

154,000 / 4,800,000 = 3.2%
154,000 / 327,000,000 = .04%

It depends on whether we divide the number of deaths by the number of cases, or by the population.

Both are therefore right.

 

[The Nature Boy]

jordan should have asked Fauci if he thinks Herman got sick @ the trump rally

 

[IamNY]

154,000 / 4,800,000 = 3.2%
154,000 / 327,000,000 = .04%

It depends on whether we divide the number of deaths by the number of cases, or by the population.

Both are therefore right.

It's one of those rare moments where we agree with each other.

Just a couple of points. The 3.2% is assuming that everyone that has been exposed to Covid-19 has had a test to confirm this as well as confirming that all Covid-19 related deaths are accurately recorded. Since there's no way to really know either of these numbers especially with the lack of testing it's safe to assume its inaccurate. Your math is correct as well as Cloudsurf's calculation. But, the data is not and that's why you would need to do this evaluation at the end of the pandemic and not during. The .04% is the generally accepted number when looking at the pandemic as a whole. That's the same way you get the annual flu numbers. Even this way of calculating is assuming that all Covid-19 related deaths are accurately recorded.

If your trying to figure out the death rate of people that have been exposed to Covid-19 you'll have to wait for it to be over so you can get an accurate measurement. Or at least that's how it was done for the Spanish Flu pandemic. Lastly, during the Spanish Flu epidemic (which Covid-19 isn't even close) the percentage was 2.5% and 50 million + deaths. Which is why the 3.2% number isn't accurate. If it was, you would have deaths in the hundreds of millions.

 

[cloudsurf]

Sene your percentage numbers are only a snapshot that will change tomorrow. Come back to this post in December when your first line percent will drop from 3.2% to around 2% and the .04% will be over 1% .
In my opinion there will be 400,000 deaths in the US, before a viable and safe vaccine will have started to destroy this virus.....in a best case scenario.
Also the border will remain shut till after New Years.
I wouldn`t shed any tears for Walooo there are so many hot chicks in Manhatten getting tired of isolation and looking to cheat on their magic wands.

 

[IamNY]

Sene your percentage numbers are only a snapshot that will change tomorrow. Come back to this post in December when your first line percent will drop from 3.2% to around 2% and the .04% will be over 1% .
In my opinion there will be 400,000 deaths in the US, before a viable and safe vaccine will have started to destroy this virus.....in a best case scenario.
Also the border will remain shut till after New Years.
I wouldn`t shed any tears for Walooo there are so many hot chicks in Manhatten getting tired of isolation and looking to cheat on their magic wands.

If your 1% holds true there will be hundreds of millions of deaths. I don't think we are anywhere near that yet. Yes, plenty of out of work SP's looking to do some banging in NYC.

 

[sene5hos]

Sene your percentage numbers are only a snapshot that will change tomorrow. Come back to this post in December when your first line percent will drop from 3.2% to around 2% and the .04% will be over 1% .
In my opinion there will be 400,000 deaths in the US, before a viable and safe vaccine will have started to destroy this virus.....in a best case scenario.
Also the border will remain shut till after New Years.
I wouldn`t shed any tears for Walooo there are so many hot chicks in Manhatten getting tired of isolation and looking to cheat on their magic wands.

Cloudsurf, 400,000 deaths, I find that exaggerated, because I think we will probably have a vaccine in the first months of the year.

With Trump's change of course, there won't be another 250,000 additional deaths.

And I think the border will be reopened before 2021, but with a lot of restrictions.

And also I would like to know if Thegreatwalooo, has started to dip his brush again?

 

[cloudsurf]

Hundreds of millions of deaths is a bit off target, but don`t be surprised by 30 to 40 million world wide by the end of winter. Don`t forget the Spanish flu came in 3 stages over 2 years .

 

[sene5hos]

Don`t forget the Spanish flu came in 3 stages over 2 years .

Eh we are no longer in 1918-1920
No comparison possible.

 

[cloudsurf]

Sene baby you are right we are no longer in 1918 , yet we haven`t learnt much besides washing our hands and social distancing . And like in 1918 its not always followed. In some ways we are worse off. Travel by plane spreads the virus much faster than travel by boat. Most of South America, Africa and India/Pakistan hasn`t felt the worse of it yet. A pending second wave in Europe and Australia is almost certain.
We are in a world recession /depression (except for China).....something that didn`t happen in 1918/20.
Yup many vaccines are on their way in the next several months so let`s keep our fingers crossed and hope that some of them work.

 

[IamNY]

If you read the book “The Great Influenza” you’ll see that there are many comparisons to the current pandemic even the use of Clorox injections during the Spanish Flu was something that actually happened. Medically we are in a much better place, but the crowded spaces and lack of the basics like washing hands and covering your mouth when coughing is still an issue. The death rate was far worse and the influenza virus mutated giving us a real 2nd and 3rd wave. Covid 19 hasn’t mutated yet and it typically doesn’t. We have a long way to go before Americans are allowed anywhere outside of the USA.