Ask us anything part 3

[Lunaseraphim]

if you don't mind me asking, did it make you uncomfortable because PSE is not something you offer or because you felt like the other provider was herself uncomfortable?

It made me uncomfortable because he didn't pay her extra for PSE.. and I did feel like she was uncomfortable. She told me after the booking she thought he was rough with her. (he pulled her hair really hard to the point where I had to kinda move his had, slapped her ass really hard, i think COF or CIM too)

There are a lot of clients who think that because we offer something extra or something else we're always willing to do it and prepared. I've heard stories of providers getting "surprise anal" or "surprise CIM" with no proper compensation because they were charging these as extra..

There's a difference between GFE and PSE for a reason.. and there's a reason why providers charge more for PSE

 

[Sean007]

It made me uncomfortable because he didn't pay her extra for PSE.. and I did feel like she was uncomfortable. She told me after the booking she thought he was rough with her. (he pulled her hair really hard to the point where I had to kinda move his had, slapped her ass really hard, i think COF or CIM too)

There are a lot of clients who think that because we offer something extra or something else we're always willing to do it and prepared. I've heard stories of providers getting "surprise anal" or "surprise CIM" with no proper compensation because they were charging these as extra..

There's a difference between GFE and PSE for a reason.. and there's a reason why providers charge more for PSE

This kind of rough play is not really my cup of tea, quite the opposite actually. We’ve been through this multiplie times but what about discussing this kind of stuff beforehand to get CONSENT? I’m not sure one who is in this kind of kinks stuff goes to make sure his/her partner is OK with with whatever is going to happen. Rather simple I would say! Again my seances are generally “go with the flow” and since those are generally really smooth if a provider is not comfortable she has plenty of time to mention it before it is too late!!!

 

[Lunaseraphim]

This kind of rough play is not really my cup of the, quite the opposite actually. We’ve been through this multiplie times but what about discussing this kind of stuff beforehand to get CONSENT? I’m not sure one who is in this kind of kinks stuff goes to make sure his/her partner is OK with with whatever is going to happen. Rather simple I would say! Again my seances are generally “go with the flow” and since those are generally really smooth if a provider is not comfortable she has plenty of time to mention it before it is too late!!!

This was a client I had seen alone before and he was totally different one on one. I was mortified. I think if you hire providers you have to understand that not everyone wants to offer the same things and that some things have to be discussed beforehand

 

[David Sel et Poivre]

This was a client I had seen alone before and he was totally different one on one. I was mortified. I think if you hire providers you have to understand that not everyone wants to offer the same things and that some things have to be discussed beforehand

Consent is the only key to a good / great, session with authenticity

 

[CuriousGent]

This was a client I had seen alone before and he was totally different one on one. I was mortified. I think if you hire providers you have to understand that not everyone wants to offer the same things and that some things have to be discussed beforehand

would you see him again alone ?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

would you see him again alone ?

I've only seen this client twice and it's been a really long time. This happened over a year ago. Yes I'd probably see him again alone.. he seemed to understand my boundaries.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don't stop seeing clients when they make mistakes unless they did something that is unacceptable for me like hurting me physically, insulting me, asking for things I don't offer etc

 

[philonius]

I don't stop seeing clients when they make mistakes unless they did something that is unacceptable for me like hurting me physically, insulting me, asking for things I don't offer etc

Seems like it went past the line of acceptable to the other person but you know what's best for you. It's stuff like this that makes me grateful for the ladies I see bc I realize I don't understand the full gamut of their side of this industry and the challenges they face.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Seems like it went past the line of acceptable to the other person but you know what's best for you. It's stuff like this that makes me grateful for the ladies I see bc I realize I don't understand the full gamut of their side of this industry and the challenges they face.

Not all clients are going to be perfect unfortunately.. I try to offer a good experience to people who aren't perfect. I try to give people second chances. Sometimes it's not a great idea

 

[philonius]

I laugh, because she is the very one who was on the screen at my visit last night. Very hot.
What a coincidence.

This is from another thread but I bring it up here for the ladies to answer: How often do you watch porn (or porn is playing) while you're in a session with a client? Is it something you like/dislike or are you ambivalent about it being on during sex?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

This is from another thread but I bring it up here for the ladies to answer: How often do you watch porn (or porn is playing) while you're in a session with a client? Is it something you like/dislike or are you ambivalent about it being on during sex?

This has never happened. I'm not sure if it's something that would bother me or not.. I'm not the biggest fan of mainstream porn.

Not all clients are going to be perfect unfortunately.. I try to offer a good experience to people who aren't perfect. I try to give people second chances. Sometimes it's not a great idea

I just want to clarify that this client didn't have a negative attitude in the sense that he seemed excited and happy, not hateful, he just kinda got carried away. I think he just saw that my duo partner offered PSE and he was not an experienced client so he didn't compensate her fairly. It's not an excuse tho. No one should behave this way.

Would I see him again with another duo partner? Not unless we had a discussion about consent and the partner would be informed. This specific duo partner, I would totally understand if she didn't want to see him anymore. This is hypothetical anyways. And I did mention that I often regret giving second chances.. sometimes it's worth it but often it isn't.

 

[Fradi]

I just want to clarify that this client didn't have a negative attitude, he just kinda got carried away. I think he just saw that my duo partner offered PSE and he was not an experienced client so he didn't compensate her fairly. It's not an excuse tho. No one should behave this way.

I don’t really understand this or the reasoning.
If he did not seek consent and did something outside her boundaries without it no amount of compensation can resolve that.
Consent is not about money. You don’t just do things and then try to offer money to compensate for bad behaviour.

So was she pissed because he did what he did or because he didn’t pay enough for what he did, which is it.?
So is this something she normally does if the right amount is offered I guess is another way to ask.

 

[Enjoying life]

I've seen people do this before. some of us are okay with it, some are not. I've often had clients refuse to match my donation to my duo partner, and I accepted it because I didn't want to lose the opportunity to do a duo since I really enjoy them.. but it's really ideal to match the rates. you are also mentioning different options. Once, I had a duo with a provider who had a PSE option. I assume the client saw that because he treated her very differently from me, he matched our rates (her GFE rate was higher than mine) but he did not pay for PSE.. He was a lot more rowdy with her and it made me really uncomfortable. I think it's important to discuss everything with both duo partners.

My mistress was going to bring a friend and the rate was the same as hers but the sp cancelled as I was preparing for this with in 2 weeks! I would never ask her to bring her friend again!

 

[LeDodo]

I don’t really understand this or the reasoning.
If he did not seek consent and did something outside her boundaries without it no amount of compensation can resolve that.
Consent is not about money. You don’t just do things and then try to offer money to compensate for bad behaviour.

So was she pissed because he did what he did or because he didn’t pay enough for what he did, which is it.?
So is this something she normally does if the right amount is offered I guess is another way to ask.

My understanding is that he booked the duo for GFE. But somehow he behaved as in a PSE maybe because he knew that the other SP was providing it as an option.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don’t really understand this or the reasoning.
If he did not seek consent and did something outside her boundaries without it no amount of compensation can resolve that.
Consent is not about money. You don’t just do things and then try to offer money to compensate for bad behaviour.

So was she pissed because he did what he did or because he didn’t pay enough for what he did, which is it.?
So is this something she normally does if the right amount is offered I guess is another way to ask.

1- she wasn't pissed. She just said "oh he's a bit intense" and that's it. There was no drama about this. It was just me that felt bad because I was afraid my client made her uncomfortable

2- this person has both GFE and PSE rates. The client tried to get a PSE experience from her in my presence but only paid the GFE rate.

3- acts need to be discussed beforehand. Suppose I offer something as an extra or different rate and I'm not prepared for it and the client didn't mention it beforehand, consent isn't present...

This situation isn't hard to understand.

 

[LeDodo]

Or if we take a more graphical example (although a PSE should be graphical enough...), say a provider has Greek as an option but the client has booked for GFE only and suddenly do Greek ...
Proposing services doesn't mean it's available on demand.

 

[LC18]

[Clients] What are your thoughts on website forms? What are your thoughts on questions by email?

I am trying to add the following questions to my booking process:

“Makeup. Yes or no?”
“Perfume. Yes or no?”

Because I’ve noticed some men like perfume but some men are married and worried

 

[Enjoying life]

It made me uncomfortable because he didn't pay her extra for PSE.. and I did feel like she was uncomfortable. She told me after the booking she thought he was rough with her. (he pulled her hair really hard to the point where I had to kinda move his had, slapped her ass really hard, i think COF or CIM too)

There are a lot of clients who think that because we offer something extra or something else we're always willing to do it and prepared. I've heard stories of providers getting "surprise anal" or "surprise CIM" with no proper compensation because they were charging these as extra..

There's a difference between GFE and PSE for a reason.. and there's a reason why providers charge more for PSE

You don’t do that! My ex asked me to pull her hair but she requested it and I did it light but you just do not do that!

 

[urquell]

[Clients] What are your thoughts on website forms? What are your thoughts on questions by email?

I am trying to add the following questions to my booking process:

“Makeup. Yes or no?”
“Perfume. Yes or no?”

Because I’ve noticed some men like perfume but some men are married and worried

I think it's an excellent idea. Not just because some men are married, but also because there's a significant amount of people that are allergic to perfume and strong scents. Also, many men say they are against makeup, but sometimes that just means obvious makeup, and a natural look, even with makeup, is fine, so possibly both levels of comfort for SP and client can be accommodated. I also think that just like men asking their SPs about their do's and don't that asking clients about their preferences before the session can only be beneficial to both parties. I honestly wish that more ladies would do what you are considering doing.

 

[Enjoying life]

I think it's an excellent idea. Not just because some men are married, but also because there's a significant amount of people that are allergic to perfume and strong scents. Also, many men say they are against makeup, but sometimes that just means obvious makeup, and a natural look, even with makeup, is fine, so possibly both levels of comfort for SP and client can be accommodated. I also think that just like men asking their SPs about their do's and don't that asking clients about their preferences before the session can only be beneficial to both parties. I honestly wish that more ladies would do what you are considering doing.

Ya! I noticed the SPS that came to me never smelled anything of perfume or lotions !