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2014/2015 Official MLB Offseason Thread: Signings, Trades, Rumors, Etc.

rumpleforeskiin

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Actually, iggy, baseball is now a $9 billion industry. Every team, thanks to TV and licensing, is drowning in money. They're all money making machines, which, of course, makes it that much more difficult for the Yankees to buy championships.

Personally, I root for my team to win and don't give a rat's ass as to whether their billionaire owner is making money or not. Yes, the Dallas Cowboys may be making money, but as a football team they've sucked for 20 years and counting.
 

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Nobody wins it every year rumpie (as a so called rouge hose fan you should know this better than anyone) anymore and never will. Parity is a good thing for sports and I am all for it.
 

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Nobody wins it every year rumpie
Oh, I agree with you completely. It wasn't me who said that anything short of a championship for the Yankees is abject failure. It was Jeter and George.

Parity is a good thing for sports and I am all for it.
Absolutely. I'm thrilled that my team has three rings in the last 10 years, but I'm all for KC or Pittsburgh winning as well.
 

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Stephen Drew signed for one season..... A Love/Hate Kinda Deal

So the Yanks sign Drew for one season. The love part is it takes some immediate pressure off Refs and Pirela going into spring training so maybe just maybe they will be loose and play well and one or both still make the team. It also might give Refs a few more ab's in Scranton to see if he is truly ready or not for the show as a way not to rush him to much.

The hate part is Drew sucks and hopefully the kids will come in and prove to management they are better and then bye bye Drew once and for all.

At least he can back up Didi at shortstop but man I have never been a fan of one Stephen Oris Drew. :lol:

http://riveraveblues.com/2015/01/yankees-sign-stephen-drew-112748/
 

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Yanks sign Stephen f'n Drew!!! Hahahah...bwwwaaahhhhh....bwahahahahahahaha!!! I LOVE it. Just goes to show what a shambles those overpaid disasters in the house that Ruth didn't build really are. Beautiful!!!
 

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see my post above SK, it is actually a good thing in the short term and only for one year so i "guess" it is ok even tho I am not a fan of Drew. The article makes a good point that he can backup Didi if for some reason he struggles out of the gate getting used to a new team but I do not think Didi's defense will suffer any.
 

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Actually I think it's a pretty good move. Since the "Bombers" (lol) are building for 2017, it will give Drew a chance to re-establish himself before Cashman gives him a 5 year/$80 million deal.
 

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love Trout tho!
Trout's no dummy. Here's what he tweeted after the Cowboys-Lions game on Sunday:

Mike Trout ✔ @Trouty20

Refs gotta have something on this game hahaha
 

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Million $$$ Red Stocking Cards

BOYZ!!!

An elderly lady went to the Antiques Road show with some old baseball cards she got passed down from an ancestor who used to run a boarding house used by member of the Boston Red Stockings in the 1870s. She had been offered $20,000 for the set of cards. One of the cards includes none other than Al Spalding himself, and some personal writing from him and others. Assessment: $1,000,000. It would be higher if the edges of the cards had not been trimmed, which is a huge and very expensive NO-NO, to fit into a previous book. Frayed or bent edges can sometimes destroy over 50% of the value of some of the most sought cards. But these are in very good shape otherwise and from the very beginnings of baseball. I just hope those are magnets holding them to the display board because pin holes are another big NO-NO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wACD_Nl8o4E

http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/07/antiques-roadshow-1870s-baseball-cards-found-in-nyc-worth-1-million/

Talk about collateral for $.

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rumpleforeskiin

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An elderly lady went to the Antiques Road show...
I saw this on Facebook this morning. MLB's Official Historian is a friend of mine. His response was that the valuation was considerably too high.

I've never watched this show, but other people responding to the post said that their MO is to overvalue to create drama.
 

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Let me chime & i'll try to be as neutral as possible.....

-Indeed, teams such as the Dallas Cowboys, NY Giants & many other NFL are 'money-making machines'. But the NFL also has a salary cap, which means that most teams are on an equal level when it comes to player personnel. Sure, many of those teams have a knack of attracting some of the best players in the league, but a lot of it has to do with where those teams are located. For example, were Aaron Rogers to become a free agent tomorrow, i doubt he'd chose Buffalo over Miami were he offered the same amount of money. But the same thing could be said of every single pro team in any pro league, were it basketball, baseball or hockey.

-It is also quite true that MLB is drowning in money these days & most of the teams make a lot of money, including even the Tampa Rays. Revenue-sharing & the luxury tax are a big reason behind this & why parity in MLB hasn't been as good in decades. This is why, unfortunately, a team such as the Rays isn't in a hurry to move out of Tampa even though the stadium is half-empty on many nights during a baseball season. And the luxury tax is now preventing many of the mega-wealthy teams from going on a spending spree like the old days during the George Steinbrenner era. Sure, it can still happen, but owners are more cost-conscious then they used to be, it seems. Many of the wealthier owners will be willing to spend right up to the luxury tax level in order to avoid the penalty. I have no problem with this philosophy since MLB hasn't had labour disruptions in decades. It's on very sound ground & i'd encourage other pro leagues to adopt the MLB model. It would be more fair for the wealthier organizations who would be more than willing to spend more than the current cap allows them to, and if they considerably overspend, everyone wins with the luxury tax, including the players, who's revenues would also rise in the process.

-In other news, the Yankees are about to re-sign Stephen Drew. Whether he'd be signed to play shortstop or second base isn't clear, but my guess is that it would be for the second base position since i believe the Yankees came to their senses & realized handing over that position to an unproven rookie would be simply too much in media-crazy New York. And if the projected shortstop cannot handle playing in New York (which many predict), Drew could simply take over that position (which is his natural position) and they could let the rookie take second base over or they could also (likely) make a trade.

-I also just found out that the Blue Jays are considering signing Ichiro Suzuki to a one-year contract as it's fourth outfielder & occasional DH. Personally, i hope this doesn't happen, but i've been wrong before. He's still a good player and he's in tremendous shape, but he's still old & would be taking up a spot in the lineup which i prefer should be given to a younger player.

-And finally, congratulations to John Smoltz, Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson & Craig Biggio on being named to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Very well deserved. That's two former Expos being named to the HoF in the same year. I wonder if Pedro will enter as a Red Sox or as an Expo. My guess is that it's going to be as a Red Sox since we would have heard something about it had he chosen to be inducted as an Expo. It's too bad that Tim Raines was once again snubbed for the hall, but i believe that he my be inducted next year along with Ken Griffey Jr. & possibly Trevor Hoffman.
 

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It would be FANTASTIC if he went in as a Expo and snubbed boston but he just had an interview saying back in his Expo's days he wanted a trade from Montreal to the Yankees and it never got done. So seeing that he wanted out of Montreal I highly doubt he would enter the hall as an Expo but it sure would be funny!
I wonder if Pedro will enter as a Red Sox or as an Expo. My guess is that it's going to be as a Red Sox since we would have heard something about it had he chosen to be inducted as an Expo.
 

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Hall of Fame players make money with autograph signings, endorsements etc. He has greater earning potential if he enters as a Red Sox than as an Expo.
 

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This is why, unfortunately, a team such as the Rays isn't in a hurry to move out of Tampa even though the stadium is half-empty on many nights during a baseball season.
Actually, Doc, this is not true. Stu Sternberg has already made it clear that if he doesn't get a new ballpark in Hillsborough County, he's going to sell the team and it will surely leave the area. FYI, the Rays don't play in Tampa, but in St. Petersburg. If they played in Tampa, they wouldn't have the problem they do. Their ballpark is in an even worse location than the Big Owe.

Whether he'd be signed to play shortstop or second base isn't clear, but my guess is that it would be for the second base position since i believe the Yankees came to their senses & realized handing over that position to an unproven rookie would be simply too much in media-crazy New York.
I'm going to take exception to this as well. The Yankees have handed second base over to a rookie in recent times: Robinson Cano. The difference is that neither Refsnyder nor Pirela are particularly highly regarded prospects.

And if the projected shortstop cannot handle playing in New York (which many predict), Drew could simply take over that position (which is his natural position) and they could let the rookie take second base over or they could also (likely) make a trade.
The problem with the projected shortstop, Gregorius, is more than whether or not he can handle New York. The problem is that he can't handle major league pitching. He has a career .620 OPS outside of the bandbox in Arizona.

I wonder if Pedro will enter as a Red Sox or as an Expo. My guess is that it's going to be as a Red Sox since we would have heard something about it had he chosen to be inducted as an Expo.
Pedro spent seven years in Boston, four in Montreal. One great year in Montreal, six great years in Boston. And let us not forget what Pedro said when the Red Sox won the 2004 World Series, there first in a run of three World Championships in 10 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXq7ZVXgvU

It's too bad that Tim Raines was once again snubbed for the hall, but i believe that he my be inducted next year along with Ken Griffey Jr. & possibly Trevor Hoffman.
Raines was one of the top five leadoff hitters of all time, a no-doubt first ballot HOFer. The writers should be embarrassed for over-looking him. I think it will take him two more years to get in, considering his 55% vote this year.
 

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MLBTR is reporting that the Blue Jays have reached an agreement to sign Vladimir Guerrero Jr. to a $3.2 M contract when the international signing season starts next July.
 

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It would be FANTASTIC if he went in as a Expo and snubbed boston but he just had an interview saying back in his Expo's days he wanted a trade from Montreal to the Yankees and it never got done. So seeing that he wanted out of Montreal I highly doubt he would enter the hall as an Expo but it sure would be funny!


And in that same article it stated that because NY had zero prospects on the farm (as usual) to send in a trade to Montreal they then had no way of trading for him. Hahaha. Hmmm...Pedro for Carl Pavano & Tony Armas Jr, what a steal that was. ;)
 

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And in that same article it stated that because NY had zero prospects on the farm (as usual) to send in a trade to Montreal they then had no way of trading for him. Hahaha. Hmmm...Pedro for Carl Pavano & Tony Armas Jr, what a steal that was. ;)
You mean the "Bombers" lol couldn't match Carl Pavano and Tony Armas Jr.? Some things just never change. (Hmm. I wonder if that's why the "Bombers" lol later gave Pavano a whopping (at the time) $40 million for 4 years.
 

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Red Sox payroll on track to be larger than ever to start season

by Brian MacPherson, Providence Journal

John Henry said firmly that he would authorize a payroll in excess of the luxury-tax threshold for one year in the right circumstance. At the time he said it, that circumstance was assumed to involve the return of Jon Lester — but even without Jon Lester, the Red Sox are poised to exceed the threshold for the first time since 2011.

Even before the addition of Craig Breslow to the roster this week on a $2-million contract, the Red Sox already appeared to have pushed past the luxury-tax threshold of $189 million. Their payroll as constituted has pushed past $193 million, which would be an all-time high for Opening Day — well beyond the $175 million with which they started the season in 2012.

(Bolstered by the signing of Carl Crawford, Boston’s payroll wound up at $189 million for luxury-tax purposes in 2011, earning them a $3.4-million bill from Major League Baseball. The blockbuster trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers the following August pushed them back below the threshold.)

Even accounting for the trade of Yoenis Cespedes, which saved the team $9 million for luxury-tax purposes, the acquisitions of starting pitchers Justin Masterson, Wade Miley and Rick Porcello add about $17 million to Boston’s payroll for this season.

Masterson signed a one-year, $9.5-million contract, while MLBTradeRumors.com projects Miley and Porcello to be paid $4.3 million and $12.2 million via arbitration next season, respectively. The acquisition of backup catcher Ryan Hanigan added another $3.5 million to the team’s commitments for luxury-tax purposes, and Breslow agreed to a $2-million deal last week.

Should the Red Sox add to their roster any further, perhaps by signing or trading for an ace like Cole Hamels or James Shields, they would pay an additional 17.5 percent in tax on any overage. Conversely, if Boston were to trade away Allen Craig or Shane Victorino, they’d have a chance to get back under $189 million.

Under the Henry ownership, Boston has never shied away from crossing the luxury-tax threshold — and even doing so several years in a row. But the penalties escalate with each successive year that a team does so, climbing from 17.5 percent the first year to 30 percent the second year and 40 percent the third, and so Henry has said he’d prefer to exceed the tax threshold strategically rather than consistently.

The good news for Henry and the Red Sox is that they will have a clear opportunity to get back under the threshold next season, avoiding the escalating penalties. As it stands now, the team has only $112.25 million in guaranteed money on its books for 2016, including the $12 million in player benefits included in the equation.

Breslow, Masterson, Porcello, Victorino, Mike Napoli ($16 million) and Edward Mujica ($4.75 million) all will be free agents after next season. The Red Sox hold a $13-million option on Buchholz but can decline it at a cost of just $250,000. Miley would remain under team control and be in line for a raise, but, as an arbitration-eligible player, his contracts are not guaranteed for more than one year.
Even if one projects Buchholz and Miley to return, Boston’s projected payroll for 2016 climbs only to a little more than $130 million.

If the Red Sox do sign Shields or trade for Hamels, they’d wind up with a payroll north of $200 million this season. For that reason, the $22.5 million Hamels is owed in 2015 actually would cost the Red Sox $26.44 million unless they made other moves to get back under the tax threshold.

A season later, however, that same $22.5 million that Hamels is owed could fit comfortably into a payroll that would fall short of the luxury-tax threshold, avoiding penalties of 30 percent on any overage. The same would apply if Boston waited a year to pursue a free-agent ace like David Price or Jordan Zimmermann.
 
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