Nothing at all productive in Queens this offseason
Supposedly Troy T trade in the works ?
We will see
The return of Matt Harvey is our #1 priority
Best Regards
Smuler
2014/2015 Official MLB Offseason Thread: Signings, Trades, Rumors, Etc.
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Nothing at all productive in Queens this offseason
Supposedly Troy T trade in the works ?
We will see
The return of Matt Harvey is our #1 priority
Best Regards
Smuler
At least the Mets did not finish DEAD LAST in their division in 2014 Smuler 
The Metropolitans need to land someone like Troy T. and build a team around him and a Great Young Pitcher like Harvey. Granderson was a expensive mistake and looks like Cashman knew that. That is why his nickname is "Brain" Cashman.
Not sure how big of a fan you are Smuler but what do you know about this guy Gonzalez Germen that the Yanks just got from the Mets if anything?
The Metropolitans need to land someone like Troy T. and build a team around him and a Great Young Pitcher like Harvey. Granderson was a expensive mistake and looks like Cashman knew that. That is why his nickname is "Brain" Cashman.
Not sure how big of a fan you are Smuler but what do you know about this guy Gonzalez Germen that the Yanks just got from the Mets if anything?
My take on the trade is that it was a bad trade for the Yankees. I never would have traded Prado, especially for the guys they got back. Not only did they trade Prado, but they also traded Phelps, who may have been the only fully healthy starting pitcher on the squad. I don't find that pitcher they got from the Marlins any good, and that first baseman is a bench player. The kid they got from A-ball might turn out to be a useful pitcher one day, though. But trading Prado & Phelps?? Bad move if you ask me.
As for the Middlebrooks trade, the Sox didn't have anything to lose since he would have been a bench player or been sent down to the minors. His play considerably degraded last season & there was no telling if he'd ever regain his rookie form. Hanigan isn't a bad catcher. He'll be the back-up catcher for the time being. The Red Sox certainly didn't lose anything with this trade, unless Middlebrooks suddenly regains his form and becomes a star in the NL.
Another problem i see with the Yankees/Marlins trade is that the Marlins don't really have any use for Prado. That's why i'm wondering if they're not considering trading him away to a team needing a starting second baseman. Toronto maybe?
As for the Middlebrooks trade, the Sox didn't have anything to lose since he would have been a bench player or been sent down to the minors. His play considerably degraded last season & there was no telling if he'd ever regain his rookie form. Hanigan isn't a bad catcher. He'll be the back-up catcher for the time being. The Red Sox certainly didn't lose anything with this trade, unless Middlebrooks suddenly regains his form and becomes a star in the NL.
Another problem i see with the Yankees/Marlins trade is that the Marlins don't really have any use for Prado. That's why i'm wondering if they're not considering trading him away to a team needing a starting second baseman. Toronto maybe?
You gotta stop reading those blogs rumps reads bro :lol:
This was a good baseball trade for both teams with the potential to be a very good to great trade for the Yanks. As I said before we know what the ceiling is for Phelps and right now Eovaldi is better than Phelps but is a lot younger with huge upside and getting to work with one of the games best pitching coaches in Larry Rothschild (man that guy reminds me of someone) is only going to help. Jones should love the short right field porch in Yankee Stadium and German was the 8th ranked prosepct for the Marlins at the time of the trade and is slated in at #7 for the Yanks prospect pool. Good trade for both like i said because Prado helps the Marlins right now and Phelps should be a decent 4/5 starter for them this season. Gotta give to get and the consensus around baseball is the Yanks did well as did the Marlins.
This was a good baseball trade for both teams with the potential to be a very good to great trade for the Yanks. As I said before we know what the ceiling is for Phelps and right now Eovaldi is better than Phelps but is a lot younger with huge upside and getting to work with one of the games best pitching coaches in Larry Rothschild (man that guy reminds me of someone) is only going to help. Jones should love the short right field porch in Yankee Stadium and German was the 8th ranked prosepct for the Marlins at the time of the trade and is slated in at #7 for the Yanks prospect pool. Good trade for both like i said because Prado helps the Marlins right now and Phelps should be a decent 4/5 starter for them this season. Gotta give to get and the consensus around baseball is the Yanks did well as did the Marlins.
Not true, after the trade of Casey McGehee last night the Marlins have a pretty big need for Prado.
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Giants filled their third-base vacancy on Friday night, announcing they obtained Casey McGehee from the Marlins for a pair of Minor League right-handers.
McGehee, 32, earned National League Comeback Player of the Year honors this season. But he became expendable when the Marlins acquired infielder Martin Prado from the Yankees in a five-player deal.
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Giants filled their third-base vacancy on Friday night, announcing they obtained Casey McGehee from the Marlins for a pair of Minor League right-handers.
McGehee, 32, earned National League Comeback Player of the Year honors this season. But he became expendable when the Marlins acquired infielder Martin Prado from the Yankees in a five-player deal.
You're correct. I didn't know of the McGehee trade until now. So Prado will be the Marlins' third baseman. But i still believe he would have fit in quite nicely with the Yankees. I believe that until the trade, he was the Yankees' best hitting infielder.
At the time he was but the season does not start until April and that is A LOT of time for pieces to be added. Have I told you how excited I am for Rob Refsnyder to get a chance to win the 2b job yet? I am sure more time in Scranton would be better but hey, ya never know.
I am sure more time in Scranton would be better but hey, ya never know.
One of the best places to get information on the Yankees is at riveravenueblues.com. Michael Axisa, their main writer, is among the smartest Yankee fans anywhere. Here's what he thinks of the non-prospect Refsnyder.At the time he was but the season does not start until April and that is A LOT of time for pieces to be added. Have I told you how excited I am for Rob Refsnyder to get a chance to win the 2b job yet?
...as I said after the Chase Headley re-signing, I hate handing jobs to non-elite prospects. I have no doubt Refsnyder will get a chance at some point next season. I just really hope the Yankees aren’t planning to hand him the second base job unchallenged in Spring Training. A Gregorius-Refsnyder double play combination makes me really nervous.
I have enjoyed this thread due to the quality and quantity of information. I am sincere in thanking the posters for educating me about baseball. However, I have a selfish request.
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It is inevitable that there will be disagreements as measures of the worth of baseball players cannot be perfectly accurate. Also, disagreements can be used as excuses to disparage other posters with whom, over the years, one has developed antipathies. With the aim of maintaining the entertainment value of this thread, please make an effort to improve the quality of your insults (frankly, most lack wit) or use a free for all thread to contain them and avoid polluting this thread.
So who is the odds on favorite to take the AL East? I like what Boston has done. The Panda is a South American version of Mr. October and Ramirez is supposed to be an outstanding acquisition. I also like Ricky Porcello. He pitched 3 complete game shutouts last year but that was in Comerica National Park. The Red Sox seem to be taking a page out of the Cardinals book. I still think they could use a number one and Lester would have put them over the edge. I really think Toronto is much better as well with adding Donaldson and Russell Martin. Remind me what the Yankees have done? They signed Miller but let Robertson walk...seems like they are in about the same spot as last year. However, Baltimore could be potentially just as good with Weiters coming back and Chris Davis returning at 1B.
I'm not sure about the Tigers moves. I do not think we will resign Scherzer and I don't think anyone will sign him for $200MM. He left $144MM on the table. As I mentioned above, Porcello had 3 complete game shutouts. This is critical with the Detroit bullpen, which remains the second worst in the majors. There is help on the horizon. Bruce Rondon returns. Also, as a GM on MLB radio said, the bullpen is the bullpen. You never know what those arms are going to do. Can they be as bad as they were in the past? How could they?
I am a Cespedes fan. I am excited to see what he brings to the table. Also, Iggy returns at SS. He is the best defender I have seen since Ozzie Smith. He will return at a time when the Tigers have dealt their two best sinker ball pitchers (Fister and Porcello). I have no idea about the two pitchers DD has brought in. Green from the Yankees and Simon from Cincinnati.
I used to consider Dave Dombrowski the top GM in baseball. After the Fister deal to the Washington Nationals I lost faith. That was the worst trade since Boston Sold the Bambino to the Yanks. The Fister deal was the worst trade since that guy in the old testament traded his birth right for a bowl of hot soup. It is Ironic that the best deal the Tigers ever made was circa 1970 when they traded a washed up McLain for 1/3 of the Washington Senators team. Was this bad Karma? Already 2/3 of the deal are no longer Tigers. Lombardozi was traded to Baltimore for a SS we cut the first month of the season. Robbie Ray was horrible and traded. Ian Krol (the second coming of Phil Coke) remains. What a bad trade that was. This will be engraved on DD's tombstone. This was all done to make Drew Smyly, our most dependable arm in the bullpen, a starter. In order to do this they had to trade Fister to rob our bullpen of it's only consistent arm in Smyly. Joe Nothing (Nathen) did not pan out and Rondon had Tommy John. Anyway, to make up for this historic bad trade the Tigers had to deal Smyly to Tampa for Price. Out payroll increased by 10MM. We would have been so much better off with Smyly in the pen and Fister starting.
What is for certain is the clock is ticking on this team. We lose 7 to free agency after this year.
I'm not sure about the Tigers moves. I do not think we will resign Scherzer and I don't think anyone will sign him for $200MM. He left $144MM on the table. As I mentioned above, Porcello had 3 complete game shutouts. This is critical with the Detroit bullpen, which remains the second worst in the majors. There is help on the horizon. Bruce Rondon returns. Also, as a GM on MLB radio said, the bullpen is the bullpen. You never know what those arms are going to do. Can they be as bad as they were in the past? How could they?
I am a Cespedes fan. I am excited to see what he brings to the table. Also, Iggy returns at SS. He is the best defender I have seen since Ozzie Smith. He will return at a time when the Tigers have dealt their two best sinker ball pitchers (Fister and Porcello). I have no idea about the two pitchers DD has brought in. Green from the Yankees and Simon from Cincinnati.
I used to consider Dave Dombrowski the top GM in baseball. After the Fister deal to the Washington Nationals I lost faith. That was the worst trade since Boston Sold the Bambino to the Yanks. The Fister deal was the worst trade since that guy in the old testament traded his birth right for a bowl of hot soup. It is Ironic that the best deal the Tigers ever made was circa 1970 when they traded a washed up McLain for 1/3 of the Washington Senators team. Was this bad Karma? Already 2/3 of the deal are no longer Tigers. Lombardozi was traded to Baltimore for a SS we cut the first month of the season. Robbie Ray was horrible and traded. Ian Krol (the second coming of Phil Coke) remains. What a bad trade that was. This will be engraved on DD's tombstone. This was all done to make Drew Smyly, our most dependable arm in the bullpen, a starter. In order to do this they had to trade Fister to rob our bullpen of it's only consistent arm in Smyly. Joe Nothing (Nathen) did not pan out and Rondon had Tommy John. Anyway, to make up for this historic bad trade the Tigers had to deal Smyly to Tampa for Price. Out payroll increased by 10MM. We would have been so much better off with Smyly in the pen and Fister starting.
What is for certain is the clock is ticking on this team. We lose 7 to free agency after this year.
Hungry, while the jury is still out on Greene, he has decent stuff and will make the Tigers rotation as a back end of the rotation guy. He could be solid or a flop, only time will tell because the sample size is small so far. The Yanks took a risk in trading him but have a good fielding SS with upside hitting wise to replace Jeter in return so good trade for both teams as it looks for now.
I do not see the Tigers as strong if Max S does not return but should still contend.
I do not see the Tigers as strong if Max S does not return but should still contend.
Quite simply, there is no "odds-on" favorite. First, we don't know what the rosters are going to look like on April 1, but based on current rosters the Red Sox project to be a slight favorite with 42.8 WAR (1 win higher than the Dodgers.) The Blue Jays project at 38.4 WAR, the Rays at 36.9, the Yankees at 36.5 and the Orioles at 34. (By the way, Steamer Projections has 17 pitchers with WAR of 3.0 or higher, including Rick Porcello.)
The Red Sox certainly have the most complete roster. It's pretty safe to say that we know who 22-24 of their opening day players are. The Yankees have a ton of question marks. I had breakfast this morning with a Yankee fan who is hoping that CC Sabathia can be a number 3 starter, though he allows that number 5 is equally likely. Will Tanaka win 20 games or spend the season recovering from TJ? Does Mark Teixeira have anything left? Does Alex Rodriguez have anything left? When will Ivan Nova return and what will he bring with him? Can Carlos Beltran stay healthy for more than two weeks and does he have anything left? Who will play second base? The list goes on. The Yanks have little power and it all, every bit of it, comes from guys well into the down side of their careers. When you hear Yankee fans banking their hopes on a fringe major leaguer like Didi Gregorius, you know they're in trouble.
The Jays have made some nice moves, certainly. I haven't looked their roster over, but Steamer seems to like them. The Orioles have lost a lot but also have Matt Wieters and Manny Machado returning. The Rays keep losing players, but keep developing pitchers. Really, at this point, I'd say anyone but the Yanks and Rays could win this division. What they'll look like on opening day remains to be seen. Who will surprise remains to be seen. Who will stay healthy remains to be seen.
As for Max Scherzer, I'm guessing he goes back to the Tigers. Who else is left? The Sox wouldn't go $150 for Lester, they sure won't for Scherzer. With the Yankees sucking the back end of three ugly contracts, one can't imagine them paying $40 M per year (including luxury tax). The Dodgers have to be done. The Cubs won't add him after signing Lester. Could the Mets get in? The Giants certainly are a possibility and, of course, all it takes is two clubs and Scott Boras to drive the price up. Still, I'm guessing that when all is said and done, he goes to Detroit for about $160.
For the Tigers, I really think that Sanchez and Price are number 1's. Verlander is a 4th starter these days...hopefully he can bounce back. Yes, Rumples, I just read the same thing about Scherzer coming back to the Tigers. Problem has been we have to play the 8th and 9th innings. Verlander use to be his own closer and set -up man. Those days are over. Scherzer has one complete game. If Soria and Rondon do not pan out forget it.
I like the White Sox acquisitions of Jeff Samardzija, David Robertson and Melky Cabrera and I think the Cubs are on the cusp of being good for a long time. I think Chicago baseball is on the rise.
I like the White Sox acquisitions of Jeff Samardzija, David Robertson and Melky Cabrera and I think the Cubs are on the cusp of being good for a long time. I think Chicago baseball is on the rise.
I was listening to a baseball writer who covers the Yankees on MLB Radio. Forgive me but I do not remember his name. He had the Yankees 3rd in the AL East. He had Boston and YToronto ahead of the Yanks. I like Boston's position players. However, as Merlot pointed out before his post disappeared, who is their Ace or what I like to call stopper? For the Tigers it was Justin Verlander the year he won the MVP/Cy Young and Scherzer the last two year. The Sox had Lester and Lackey last year? I don't get it? I'm with Merlot on this one. They don't have the starters to carry them. I like Toronto's starters better with Bruhle and the Knuckleballer (what's his name) that could pitch every third day.
I remember 2007 the year after the Tigers lost to the Cards in the World Series because the bullpen forgot how to field sac bunts. Anyway, at the start of 2007 nearly all the talking heads picked the Tigers to repeat. Instead they finished 2nd in a weak division.
League Championships are not won on paper
I remember 2007 the year after the Tigers lost to the Cards in the World Series because the bullpen forgot how to field sac bunts. Anyway, at the start of 2007 nearly all the talking heads picked the Tigers to repeat. Instead they finished 2nd in a weak division.
League Championships are not won on paper
BOYZ,
As I had said, it's been pointed out by Rumps that there are only two number 1s in the AL East. True enough. I guess that means the Sox are theoretically not so far off that they can compete in the division and have a good chance at a wild card. However, I'm thinking longer range than making the playoffs and without a bona fide number 1 or 2 the Sox are in trouble when most playoff teams will have a 1 and 2. Replacing Lester and Lackey with Buchholz and Porcello is a downgrade overall given the uncertainty with the first and the inability of the second to get to the next level so far. Some say neither Lester or Lackey were ever true aces, but they were very solid in 2013 and that made a huge difference. Uehara is starting to diminish and that was last year. Masterson, well, who is he going to be this year...that's a big question mark. I don't think even gaining a proven number 1 would be all that more assuring unless the Sox get more than Buchholz and Porcello have shown in the recent past. Sox pitching is going to be a pretty dicey prospect until the key bodies show otherwise.
I want a number 1 and 2 for Christmas
Only a 2 more starters will do for me
Because if we get a number 1 and 2 for Christmas
We're going to take a pee on the Yankees
Merlot
As I had said, it's been pointed out by Rumps that there are only two number 1s in the AL East. True enough. I guess that means the Sox are theoretically not so far off that they can compete in the division and have a good chance at a wild card. However, I'm thinking longer range than making the playoffs and without a bona fide number 1 or 2 the Sox are in trouble when most playoff teams will have a 1 and 2. Replacing Lester and Lackey with Buchholz and Porcello is a downgrade overall given the uncertainty with the first and the inability of the second to get to the next level so far. Some say neither Lester or Lackey were ever true aces, but they were very solid in 2013 and that made a huge difference. Uehara is starting to diminish and that was last year. Masterson, well, who is he going to be this year...that's a big question mark. I don't think even gaining a proven number 1 would be all that more assuring unless the Sox get more than Buchholz and Porcello have shown in the recent past. Sox pitching is going to be a pretty dicey prospect until the key bodies show otherwise.
I want a number 1 and 2 for Christmas
Only a 2 more starters will do for me
Because if we get a number 1 and 2 for Christmas
We're going to take a pee on the Yankees
Merlot
Lackey was hardly an ace. In fact, there are only two aces in the AL East, and one of them has a torn ACL. Baltimore has no ace. Toronto has no ace. According to Fangraphs, there are 17 pitchers in all of baseball who project to have WAR above 3.00 next season. Rick Porcello is one of them. What the Sox have is five mid-rotation guys, three of whom will give them 200 innings. They have half a dozen top pitching prospects on the cusp and more than enough chips to rent an ace at the deadline if necessary.
Theo Epstein said some years back that the season divides in three parts: 1) in the first part of the season, you evaluate your club and assess your needs, 2) you fill your needs to build for the post-season 3) you go for it.
Consider something else. Pick one:
C - McCann or Vazquez. This one to the Yankees
1b - Napoli or Teixeira. Sox
2b - Pedroia or Refsnyder. Sox
SS - Bogaerts or Gregorius. Sox
3b - Panda or Headley. Sox
LF - Ramirez or Gardner. Sox
CF - Castillo or Ellsbury. Well, we don't know what the Sox have in Castillo, but if he's half of what he looks like in Puerto Rico, this one is a draw
RF - Betts or Beltran. Sox
DH - Ortiz or Rodriguez. Sox
Hideki Kuroda has gone back to Japan.
Kuroda...gone
Greene...gone
Phelps...gone
McCarthy...gone
What's left?
Bum shoulder
Bum knees
Bum elbow
and a 36 year old who hasn't gotten anyone out since 2012.
Kuroda...gone
Greene...gone
Phelps...gone
McCarthy...gone
What's left?
Bum shoulder
Bum knees
Bum elbow
and a 36 year old who hasn't gotten anyone out since 2012.
ManBan traded for Carpenter and a nice Prospect
I must say I am happy the way Cashman has gone about his business this winter by getting younger now as well as stocking the farm with prospects. Letting Kelly go but replacing him with Carpenter was genius because the Yanks now have Carpenter locked up until 2018 where as Kelly will be a free agent after next season and would command a decent raise and Carpenter is the better pitcher as well.
Banuelos still could prove to be a big time pitcher but only time will tell and this move immediately strengthens a already very strong bullpen in the Bronx.
Good stuff so far this winter from Cashman and the Yanks. Keep er going boyzz!
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...braves_for_david_carpenter_chasen_shreve.html
I must say I am happy the way Cashman has gone about his business this winter by getting younger now as well as stocking the farm with prospects. Letting Kelly go but replacing him with Carpenter was genius because the Yanks now have Carpenter locked up until 2018 where as Kelly will be a free agent after next season and would command a decent raise and Carpenter is the better pitcher as well.
Banuelos still could prove to be a big time pitcher but only time will tell and this move immediately strengthens a already very strong bullpen in the Bronx.
Good stuff so far this winter from Cashman and the Yanks. Keep er going boyzz!
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf...braves_for_david_carpenter_chasen_shreve.html
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