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rumpleforeskiin

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I was discussing Glassbury with my right hand man at work just this morning. He's a serious Yankee fan and, as he's one of those who also believes that climate change is real, he's not expecting much from his club this season. He's also not expecting to see Glassbury back before May, by which time Beltran and Teixeira should both be on the DL.

We also discussed the pitching staffs and he'd pick the Sox over the Yanks. "At least you know they won't have stitches in their arms."
 

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Case in point SK, that took all of one minute from post to post :lol:

Well right there it is folks, rumps right hand man has spoken, just cancel the season already, geesh! no need to play the games :rolleyes:

I was discussing Glassbury with my right hand man at work just this morning. He's a serious Yankee fan and, as he's one of those who also believes that climate change is real, he's not expecting much from his club this season. He's also not expecting to see Glassbury back before May, by which time Beltran and Teixeira should both be on the DL.

We also discussed the pitching staffs and he'd pick the Sox over the Yanks. "At least you know they won't have stitches in their arms."
 

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I don't profess to be a baseball expert but even I know that the Yankees are pretty much dead in the water.
 

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Yes, and when looking at how your saux brethren think about how the socks are contenders this season, I see quite a bit of "smoke" around that mirror ;)

One thing which the Yanks have that NO OTHER club in baseball have is one of the biggest intangibles in the game: Larry Rothschild (man that guy reminds me of someone) :confused:

Adam Warren looked great again today and has all but wrapped up the #5 spot in the rotation and that is a strong 5th man to have. Rothschild might just look like a genius (again) when it comes to Warren and Eovoldi. Lots of reason to be excited about Nathan, indeed.

You own a mirror?
 

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I don't profess to be a baseball expert but even I know that the Yankees are pretty much dead in the water.

I said the same thing a year ago. However, i hadn't expected Joe Girardi to turn into a magician & Tanaka caught me by surprise. Who knows, the same might happen this season & we'll all wind up eating crow, me included.

As for the Red Sox, i picked them to finish in either first or second, battling it out with the Jays. However, i must admit that the Sox are a big question mark for me. Igna69 does make a lot of valid points and they may not have the offense their fans think they have. It's quite true that they're also an aging club, similar to the Yankees where the bulk of their offense relies on their veterans staying in the lineup. I don't know what to make of their pitching. If Bucholz is indeed the ace of the staff, then they may be in trouble.

Who knows. The Orioles may surprise everyone again & run away with the division. You never know with a Buck Showalter-led team. And Tampa may surprise a lot of people and contend.

On another note, i saw yesterday that Jon Lester would miss today's scheduled start because of a 'dead arm'. That's what it said on the ticker. I don't remember ever seeing a pitcher's missed start ever officially being listed this way. Any chance he starts the season on the DL? If so, this would be quite a blow to the Cubs.
 

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As for the Red Sox, i picked them to finish in either first or second, battling it out with the Jays. However, i must admit that the Sox are a big question mark for me.
It's a whole new world, Doc. From nowhere, the East appears to be the weakest division in the AL East and totally up for grabs. Most of the projections pick the Sox first, though not by much. I've seen the Jays picked first. Some are picking the Orioles first. I've even seen one place where the Rays, thanks to their pitching depth, picked first. In fact, there's only one team in the division that no one is picking for the top spot. (That might be why some (or one) of us is creaming in his pants over Spring Training stats.)
 

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Phil Hughes had the same thing a few seasons back in spring training and he had a very bad season after.
On another note, i saw yesterday that Jon Lester would miss today's scheduled start because of a 'dead arm'. That's what it said on the ticker. I don't remember ever seeing a pitcher's missed start ever officially being listed this way. Any chance he starts the season on the DL? If so, this would be quite a blow to the Cubs.
 

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It's a whole new world, Doc. From nowhere, the East appears to be the weakest division in the AL East and totally up for grabs. Most of the projections pick the Sox first, though not by much. I've seen the Jays picked first. Some are picking the Orioles first. I've even seen one place where the Rays, thanks to their pitching depth, picked first. In fact, there's only one team in the division that no one is picking for the top spot. (That might be why some (or one) of us is creaming in his pants over Spring Training stats.)

I am trying to deconstruct that sentence ... the East appears to be weakest division in the AL East ...

For someone who lectures and demeans others on grammar and spelling, my, my, where did you come up with that one?

If you meant that the AL East is the weakest division in the American League, there is no dominant team or division in the Majors.

As for the AL East, I would include the Yankees as a possible winner because none of the teams are more than mediocre.

You are kidding yourselves if you think the Red Sox are that much improved with their expensive acquisitions over the winter. Panda and Ramirez are decent players but not great players. The jury is out on Porcello and Masterson, and Buchholz is a big question mark.
The Orioles have a little less fire power than last year. Nelson Cruz is gone. He was a huge addition last year.
The Blue Jays if healthy look like the team with the best offense.
Who do the Rays have that make them a much better team? They lost more than they have gained.
Wouldn't it be a surprise if the Yankees's pitching is as good as it has been in Spring Training? Yes, they have questions, but given the weakness of the AL East, you can't eliminate the Yankees from being contenders.
 

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I also can't see the Rays finishing any better than 4th in that division. They've indeed lost considerably more than they've gained. I consider John Madden to be one of baseball's best managers and the Rays also lost him (and their GM).

As for the Jays, their starting rotation come opening day will be:

Drew Hutchison
R.A. Dickey
Aaron Sanchez
Mark Buehrle
Daniel Norris


They open in NY against the hated Yankees. Buehrle has had a disastrous record against them throughout his career, so he'll likely start in their next series against Baltimore.
 

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Nice dissection of the EAST of the AMERICAN LEAGUE EAST (rofl) DD41, very well written and thought out.

I like what the Jays have done but I am still not sure about their pitching, then again I do not know what their farm looks like, maybe they have the depth to help out in case of another major injury to the pitching staff and i dont think their bullpen is good enough but we will see (guess i am spoiled by what the Yanks have built in that regards) I think you are correct about them having the best offense in the EAST of the AL EAST, easily. But with that said, pitching wins championships and I feel the Jays are a bubble team to take a wild card spot.

As is and in a perfect world with ZERO injuries to anyone and players playing to their capabilites as far as the EAST of the AL EAST goes; Orioles/Yanks/Jays to fight it out for 1,2,3.....the hose 4th, rays 5th but not seperated by much. If boston trades for Hamels like I think they will, they could leave a gap between themselves and the Rays for a solid 4th place finish in the EAST of the AL EAST.
 

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I love the Jays but the Yanks always come first with me, used to always be the Yanks/Expos/Jays but i just could not find myself being a Nationals fan when Montreal moved to DC so its Yanks then Jays. I love the Jays hitting but not crazy about that staff especially now that Stroman is out for the season.

Tanaka, Pineda, Sabathia, Eovoldi and Warren is light years better than any starting 5 in the EAST of the AL EAST. I dont worry about health of the staff like the media wants to, they do it for hits and clicks (to their websites/tv channels, etc) for $$$. The truth of the matter is ANY PLAYER at ANY TIME can go out with injury so why worry about something so far totally out of a fans control let alone the players control. It is part of any sport, thats why they have minor leagues and trades and waiver wires and free agent siginings within the season. If for example Tanaka goes down, you deal with it, if he has a great year and then goes down next year or the year after makes no difference, you can't control what will or what will not happen so why lose sleep over it, I don't and never will.

Hopefully the Yanks/Jays fight it out and one takes the EAST of the AL EAST and the other a wild card. Thats the best case scenario for this fan. 2 more weeks and PLAY BALL!
As for the Jays, their starting rotation come opening day will be:

Drew Hutchison
R.A. Dickey
Aaron Sanchez
Mark Buehrle
Daniel Norris


They open in NY against the hated Yankees. Buehrle has had a disastrous record against them throughout his career, so he'll likely start in their next series against Baltimore.
 

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Hopefully the Yanks/Jays fight it out and one takes the EAST of the AL EAST and the other a wild card. Thats the best case scenario for this fan. 2 more weeks and PLAY BALL!

I think we are going to have to ask rumps to give us a low down on the WEST of the AL EAST. I serious doubt that any of the rest of us can figure out where the WEST of the AL EAST is. :confused::noidea::p
 

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I was an Expos fan too but now im a huge Jays fan (i go to Toronto once a year just to see them). I really hope they can stay healthy (bad start with already 2 injurys...), their batting is awesome this year, but pitcher is kind of sketchy... I dont see them making the playoffs this year... Unless Dickey can pull a big season and the relievers too. They are gonna have too start winning in New York if they wanna have a chance and Bautista has too pull an other 35+ homers. Best of luck to them, ill be at olimpique stadium april 4th!
 

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For the uninitiated, "dead arms" are a very common occurrence toward the latter stages of spring training.

So I made a mistake, as most people do. Do I err so rarely that when I do it makes your life worth living for the rest of the day? I'm really pleased to have given you something to live for, if only for a couple of hours.
 

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Fangraphs lol, where did they have the red sox in 2011 along with everyone else? :lol:

All this talk about the 2011 season. I don't understand it at all, you'd think the Yanks won the WS instead of being eliminated in the first round!!!! :nod: :lol: All I know is the Sox won in 2013 and in between last year and 2009 when the Yanks last won* the Yanks haven't even sniffed a World Series game.
 

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So I made a mistake, as most people do. Do I err so rarely that when I do it makes your life worth living for the rest of the day? I'm really pleased to have given you something to live for, if only for a couple of hours.

You err rarely? Not really. We just let it pass. But on the other side, rumps, when someone else errs, you are an attack dog who doesn't release his jaws.

But that error was so funny, rumps. A classic. :lol:
 
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