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Andrew Marchand said on ESPN that Dici Gregorius will share shortstop with Brendan Ryan since neither of them can hit.

Therefore, the infield looks like Texeira, Prado, Gregorius/Ryan, Headley & McCann. A pretty good defensive infield as long as Texeira and Headley remain healthy.
 

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Therefore, the infield looks like Texeira, Prado, Gregorius/Ryan, Headley & McCann. A pretty good defensive infield as long as Texeira and Headley remain healthy.
It is certainly a good fielding infield. Good thing, too, since Prado is the only one of them who can outhit my Aunt Edna. Now if only they had a starting rotation.
 

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Yea, Ryan is also a great defensive player so it is likely the best infield in baseball going into the season, definately top 3 for sure. Dont count out "Sir"Didi as becoming a decent hitter once he gets to the Boogie Down Bronx. He is young and from what the scouts say he has potential to improve quite a bit in that area of his game. It is certainly gonna be fun to watch him pick it at SS tho.

Andrew Marchand said on ESPN that Dici Gregorius will share shortstop with Brendan Ryan since neither of them can hit.

Therefore, the infield looks like Texeira, Prado, Gregorius/Ryan, Headley & McCann. A pretty good defensive infield as long as Texeira and Headley remain healthy.
 

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Yea, Ryan is also a great defensive player so it is likely the best infield in baseball going into the season, definately top 3 for sure.
Correction. Ryan WAS a great defensive player, but as they all do, he's slowed down some but is still decent. He had a WAR of -0.7 last year, meaning he really has no place on a major league roster.

Dont count out "Sir"Didi as becoming a decent hitter once...
No, I wouldn't count out Didi becoming a decent hitter any more than I'd count out Bogaerts hitting 35 HR. We all can dream, can't we?

definately top 3 for sure.
Yup, the Yankees probably have one of the top three infield defenses in the AL East, certainly in the top 5. What we do know for sure though is that they have the lightest hitting infield in the division, if not in the entire AL.

He is young and from what the scouts say he has potential to improve quite a bit in that area of his game.
Which scouts? Can you point out where "the scouts" said this or are you making shit up again?
 

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As some of us know, advanced defensive metrics still lag behind their offensive counterparts in their development. To get a good gauge of a player’s defensive ability, one has to look at more than one metric and see just how they line up. (Also, the quality of these metrics still vary by position, with 1b and C still trailing the field.)

Let’s take a look and see how good the Yankees’ “definately (sic) top three” infield really is. I’ll use three metrics: UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating) developed by Fangraphs, dWAR (Defensive Wins Above Replacement) developed by Baseball Info Solutions and BaseballProjection.com, and the polling of a dozen of baseballs best minds at fieldingbible.com.

Mark Teixeira who has been hobbled by age and injury is still an above average defender. dWAR has never like him, but Fangraphs graded him at 7.1 UZR/150, quite strong, but not the defender he used to be. He received 27 points in the Fielding Bible poll, good for 10th place. I think it’s fairly safe to say that Teixeira is still an above average, if no longer an elite, defender.

Martin Prado is a bit more difficult to judge as he plays all over the place, though 3b has been his primary position. He’s played 3183 inning at 3b, 2189 in the outfield, and 2137 at 2b. His career dWAR is slightly above average, though that’s due primarily to his work in the outfield. He grades slightly above average as a 3b, slightly below average as a 2b. In the Fielding Bible awards, he received 2 points at 3b, good for 14th place. Entering his age 31 year, it’s quite safe to say that Prado projects as a slightly below average 2b, his primary position with the Yankees.

Didi Gregorius was handed the starting SS job in Arizona last year and couldn’t hold it. After being relegated to the minors by a terrible team, he’s now been dumped on the Yankees. In 191 games as a major league shortstop, he was a 1.1 dWAR, slightly above average. His UZR/150 in that period is -7.6, a fair piece below average. The Fielding Bible voters gave him 7 points, good for 14th place. Looking at the three sources, the consensus is pretty clear that Gregorius is an average shortstop at best, possibly a bit below.

The Yankees have just given a four year contract to their light hitting 3b, Chase Headley. How does he grade out as a fielder? His UZR/150 is 10.8 while his dWAR is about 1.0 per season. He received 65 points in the Fielding Bible voting, good for fourth place. While dWAR doesn’t love him, the other two metrics suggest that he’s one of the top fielding 3b in the game.

So how good is this Yankee infield? Quite a bit above average on the corners, average to slightly below up the middle. A “top 3” defense? Not even close, but quite possibly top 10. Unfortunately, they don’t grade out quite as strongly offensively, with only Martin Prado a quality hitter for his position.
 

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Speaking of "metrics" in baseball, as Joe.t once said "love love LOVE how those metrics that were supposed to be so great for the red sox helped them finish DEAD LAST 2 of the last 3 seasons" The season in between was a fluke as most all other teams had major or several injuries to some key players while the rouge hosers had little to none.

Peeeeuuuuuuu :D

As it stands on this date, for next season:

Jays (not sure why i always pick them #1 the last cpl years but it seems the logical choice again)
Yanks/Orioles
Rays
Hosers

If bOston thinks getting a fat Panda to play 3b, and signing another head case to play SS or OF or whatever they plan to do with him, along with average pitchers and losing an ace in Lester (Great Job btw, Theo!) will make a dramatic result over last season, think again lol.
 

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I guess when you're saddled with three of the worst contracts in all of baseball, it's time to go Dumpster Diving:

Yankees To Re-Sign Chris Capuano
By Jeff Todd [December 16, 2014 at 11:34am CST]
The Yankees have agreed to a one-year deal with lefty Chris Capuano, Jack Curry of the YES Network reports (Twitter links). Capuano receives a $5MM guarantee, per Curry. ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweeted this morning that Capuano was nearing a deal with an unspecified big league club.

Since his strong 2012 (198 1/3, 3.72 ERA), Capuano has been steady, if unspectacular, over the last two seasons. Last year, his age-35 campaign, he worked in a swingman capacity for the Red Sox and Yanks, posting a 4.35 earned run mark over 97 1/3 innings. He worked exclusively from the pen in Boston, and in the rotation in New York.

Capuano figures to provide some much-needed protection against injury for a New York rotation that includes question marks like Masahiro Tanaka and Michael Pineda. If he is not needed as a starter, Capuano should be able to work as a long man in the pen.
 

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How the mighty have fallen. With the Yankees saddled under a mountain of bad contracts and with other teams signing young players to long term contracts that buy out their first few post-arbitration years, and with all of baseball flush with TV money, the Yankees have decided to forego contending for the next few years, while their albatross contracts play out and they finally turn their attention to developing their own players. Brett Anderson? Too rich for their taste. Brandon McCarthy the same. Chris Capuano who last year wasn't good enough to pitch middle relief for the Red Sox is now the Yankees number 4 starter.

Chris Capuano is no one’s idea of a Yankees rotation cure-all
By George A. King III December 16, 2014 | 5:01pm

While a spoiled fan base grows increasingly frustrated that Hal Steinbrenner won’t throw good money after the bad $500 million he tossed into the pot last winter, questions about the Yankees starting rotation linger.

Will CC Sabathia’s right knee and Masahiro Tanaka’s right elbow hold up? Can Michael Pineda make 30 starts? When will Ivan Nova return from Tommy John surgery? Is Hiroki Kuroda, the most consistent starter last season, returning, retiring or going to pitch in Japan? Where do David Phelps and Adam Warren fit?

And who is replacing David Robertson in the closer’s role?

The Yankees have their fingers crossed Sabathia and Tanaka can contribute considering the financial investment in them, but nobody really knows until at least the end of spring training.
On Tuesday, the Yankees added depth to the suspect rotation by signing veteran lefty Chris Capuano to a one-year deal for $5 million. For the fans clamoring for free agent studs Max Scherzer or James Shields, getting Capuano doesn’t do much. Nor does it keep people from other organizations from predicting the Yankees eventually will jump in on Scherzer and Shields, despite the Yankees’ denials that will happen.

Capuano, who went 2-3 with a 4.25 ERA in a dozen starts after joining the Yankees on July 24, was signed to be a starter, according to GM Brian Cashman. In 40 combined outings for the Red Sox and Yankees, Capuano was 3-4 with a 4.35 ERA.

“We tried to sign him last year, but we didn’t match up,’’ Cashman said of the 36-year-old Capuano, who opened the season in the Red Sox bullpen and was pitching in the Rockies’ system when acquired by the Yankees.

If all the questions in the Yankees’ rotation are answered positively — and that rarely happens — Capuano will be the fifth starter. If those questions are met with negative responses, he would be elevated in the rotation, and that isn’t an encouraging thought.

“There are a lot of areas you try to address like run protection and run contributions, and we have improved with [Chase] Headley, Didi [Gregorius] and [Martin] Prado at second base,’’ Cashman said of an infield that almost certainly will be better than a year ago in the field and at the plate. “We have an exceptional infield with [Mark] Teixeira, Didi, Headley and Prado.’’
Though Cashman has added Headley, Gregorius, Capuano, and relievers Andrew Miller and Justin Wilson since the end of the season, more moves could be on the way.

“We are never done or finished, so I will continue to be engaged in the free-agent and trade markets,’’ said Cashman, who likely would want to add a veteran reliever to help in the late innings, if not save situations. Free agents Jason Grilli, Rafael Soriano and Sergio Romo, all of whom have closing experience, are available.

Had the Yankees met their goal of re-signing Brandon McCarthy, they might not have had an opening for Capuano. However, McCarthy inked a four-year, $48 million deal with the Dodgers and created an opening. In 14 starts last year for the Yankees, the 31-year-old McCarthy was 7-5 with a 2.89 ERA
 

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The more things change the more they stay the same.... didnt we hear this from you last december rumpie :confused: (and the one before and the one before and the one before and the one before etc etc etc.....) ROFL! dont ever change my good good pal :lol: you make me smile on a suckie winters day time and time again :thumb:
 

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The more things change the more they stay the same...
For once, we agree, old pal. They do stay the same, don't they? You're response above is quite the same each time you're taken to school. Keep it up.
 

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dont ever change my good good pal
Since we're such good buddies and since you clearly know even less about baseball than you do about hockey, I'm going to try to teach you something.

The season in between was a fluke.
There ain't no such thing as a fluke in winning a World Championship in baseball. (BTW, the Red Sox are one of only two teams to win THREE in this century. The baseball season is a marathon and you aren't the last team standing unless you're really, really good, like the Red Sox often are. Not only did the 2013 World Champions win their division going away, but in the three series that followed, playing the best teams in baseball, the World Champion Red Sox went 11-5, winning every series without going to a winner-take-all game. Quite a feat.

BTW, no one I know is foolish enough to make predictions in December, when we don't know what the Opening Day rosters will be, but it's still entertaining to see just how the sportsbooks see the rosters along the way. Here are the freshly updated odds as set by Bovada's Sports Book:

Bovada's full updated futures betting list follows:

Los Angeles Dodgers 15/2
Boston Red Sox 9/1
Washington Nationals 10/1
Chicago Cubs 12/1
Detroit Tigers 12/1
Los Angeles Angels 12/1
San Francisco Giants 14/1
Seattle Mariners 14/1
St. Louis Cardinals 14/1
Baltimore Orioles 18/1
Toronto Blue Jays 18/1
Kansas City Royals 20/1
New York Mets 25/1
New York Yankees 25/1

Oh my, look who currently has the strongest roster in the American League. Well, at least they rank the $250 million Yankees ahead of Tampa.
 

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BOYZ!!!

There ain't no such thing as a fluke in winning a World Championship in baseball.

WRONG. It is a "fluke" when the facts are so disturbing that the therapist has to give one a feel-good excuse to ease the terrible burden of reality. Some people just can't deal with the fact that like the "69" Mets a team experienced all the right factors coming together in the best possible way for a full season to generate a World Championship. But then no one could expect a Yankees/Leafs fan to deal with that when they've seen almost entirely the opposite for decades. How could your buddy believe things can just come together when he looks at that Toronto team. ;) Oh right, the Mets were a fluke too. :lol:

Cheers all, :thumb:

Merlot
 

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How many reliable starting pitchers do the Yankees have at the moment, guys who they can be reasonably sure can give them 200 decent innings in 2015? Well, according to the Lohud Yankees blog, the answer would be: none.

The good news, the bad news, and the Yankees rotation
Posted by: Chad Jennings

MASAHIRO TANAKA
Good news: Cy Young and Rookie of the Year candidate through his first three months in the big leagues.
Bad news: Slightly torn elbow ligament suggests Tommy John surgery is a real threat as early as spring training.

MICHAEL PINEDA
Good news: Finally joined the Yankees staff with a 1.89 ERA last season.
Bad news: That stellar ERA came in just 13 starts because of another shoulder issue.

CC SABATHIA
Good news: Says he feels strong this winter; more than 200 innings in 2013 and a 3.38 ERA as recently as 2012.
Bad news: Coming back from knee surgery with a not-so-encouraging 4.87 ERA the past two seasons.

IVAN NOVA
Good news: Farm system success story had a 3.10 ERA (and an especially good second half) in his last healthy season.
Bad news: Had Tommy John surgery after just four starts last season; not expected to be ready for Opening Day.

CHRIS CAPUANO
Good news: Solid No. 5 starter with a 4.25 ERA in 12 starts with the Yankees last season.
Bad news: Had been released and was pitching in Triple-A when the Yankees got him in July.

Phelps (3)DAVID PHELPS
Good news: Was on a roll before a upper elbow injury (believed to be minor) pushed him to the DL last season.
Bad news: In three seasons has never quite established himself as a go-to member of the rotation.

ADAM WARREN
Good news: Coming off a terrific, breakout season with a 2.97 ERA and a 1.11 WHIP.
Bad news: Truly emerged as a one-inning setup man; has just three major-league starts on his resume.

ESMIL ROGERS
Good news: Showed flashes of promise late last year including a five-inning, one-run spot start in August.
Bad news: That promise has not consistently translated, leaving Rogers a 5.54 career ERA with four different teams before the age of 30.

CHASE WHITLEY
Good news: Long-time minor league reliever emerged with a 2.56 ERA through his first seven major league starts last season.
Bad news: Had a 9.00 ERA through his next five starts, falling out of the rotation and back into the bullpen.

BRYAN MITCHELL
Good news: Long touted for talent that exceeded his stats, Mitchell’s results were actually pretty impressive in his brief big league cameo.
Bad news: He’s still a 24 year old with a 4.45 ERA and a 1.48 WHIP through five minor league seasons; never with as many as 150 innings.

MANNY BANUELOS
Good news: One of the top pitching prospects in the system and one of the best in baseball before Tommy John surgery.
Bad news: Inconsistent with a 4.11 ERA and just 76.2 innings in his return from surgery last season.

JOSE DE PAULA
Good news: Hard-throwing lefty impressed the Yankees enough to land a major-league contract this winter.
Bad news: Has never actually pitched in the major leagues and has just 51.1 innings of so-so Triple-A experience.
 

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Yankees trade Prado & Phelps to the Marlins in 5-player trade

by Keith Law, ESPN

NEW YORK -- The Yankees traded starting second baseman Martin Prado to the Miami Marlins for starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi as part of a five-player deal, the teams announced Friday.

The trade is Prado and pitcher David Phelps going to the Marlins in exchange for the 24-year-old Eovaldi, first baseman/outfielder Garrett Jones and minor league pitching prospect Domingo German. The Yankees will also send a total of $6 million to the Marlins, GM Brian Cashman said.

With the trade, the Yankees appear as if they will let prospects Rob Refsnyder and Jose Pirela fight it out to be the team's second baseman. Scouts believe in both of their bats, but there are questions about their gloves. The Yanks have also picked up Cole Figueroa and Nick Noonan as possibilities this winter. Cashman said he still could add another second baseman before February.

"Clearly, if spring training were starting today, that is the competition," Cashman said.

With the Marlins in 2014, Eovaldi threw nearly 200 innings, finishing 6-14 with a 4.37 ERA. His 223 hits allowed were the most in the National League. His fastball has been clocked in the upper 90s.

"He has a good arm and he is young," said Cashman, who first asked the Marlins for Eovaldi a month ago and talks progressed from there.

He will slot into the Yankees rotation along with Masahiro Tanaka, CC Sabathia, Michael Pineda, Chris Capuano and Ivan Nova.
 

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Red Sox trade Wade Middlebrooks to Padres for Ryan Hanigan

by The Associated Press

SAN DIEGO — The Padres have agreed to obtain third baseman Will Middlebrooks from the Boston Red Sox for catcher Ryan Hanigan, two people with knowledge of the deal said Friday.

The people spoke with The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the trade hasn’t been announced. The deal is pending medical approvals.

Hanigan was obtained by San Diego from Tampa Bay on Friday in an 11-player, three-team deal that also brought outfielder Wil Myers, the 2013 AL Rookie of the Year, to the Padres.

It’s the fifth big trade Padres general manager A.J. Preller has made in just more than a week. Preller has also obtained Matt Kemp, Justin Upton and Derek Morris in an effort to bolster the worst offence in the majors.

Middlebrooks hit 15 homers as a rookie in 2012 and 17 in 2013 before injuries, a .191 average and shuttling up and down from Triple-A led to what he called "a rough year."

The Padres traded third baseman Chase Headley to the New York Yankees on July 23.

Yangervis Solarte, obtained from the Yankees in that deal, had been penciled in as the Padres starter for 2015.
 

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Yankees trade Prado & Phelps to the Marlins in 5-player trade

Good all around trade for both teams. They say the winner of a trade is the one who gets the best player and Eovaldi is just that and German is a very solid prospect added to the farm. Also having Jones is clutch by Cashman in case Tex lands on the DL again. Always liked Phelps but at 28 yrs old he has pretty much shown what he is, a solid #4 or #5 starter but Eovaldi is that but with much more upside, lets sit back and see if Rothschild can work more of his magic (man that guy Larry R reminds me of someone) :confused:

This trade also (for the time being anyways) opens the door for Rob Refsnyder to win the 2b job out of camp. Time will tell if he is ready or not to make the jump but as of now he at least has a shot, along with Jose Pirela. About time some youth gets injected into the Yanks and Cashman has done so, so far this offseason. Something tells me Cash is not done just yet. So far the Yanks are better than last year. From all accounts it looks like they are not going after Max S so I would love 1 more year of Kuroda but have a feeling he is staying "home" to finish his career in Japan. If that is so, I can see Shields or maybe a trade for Zimmerman or Hamels but will have to wait and see.

Good Stuff in the AL East this offseason. The Jays and Yankees got better so far, The O's and Rays about the same so far, and the hosers modest yet highly overpaid additions should help them be slightly better but really, could they be any worse than 2014 :noidea:

As it stands now i see it as:

1. Jays (even tho it never works out)

2/3. Yanks/Orioles fighting for the wild card

4/5. Rays/hosers fighting to stay out of the dumpster

Is it February 20th yet? :smile:
 

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Red Sox trade Wade Middlebrooks to Padres for Ryan Hanigan

You can't be too impressed by this trade if you are a Red Sox fan. Ryan Hanigan is 34, has had a very unproductive 7 plus year career in the majors with a .694 career OPS. Middlebooks had a very bad year last year, but his first 2 years were much better. Yes, the Red Sox have Panda aka Pablo Sandoval on third now, but Panda is a couple of hot dogs away from Sumo wrestler weight.

My prediction: On fine July day, Sandoval will reach down for a ball hit to third, fall flat on his face, won't be able to get up and the crew at Fenway will have to get a crane to remove him from the field.
 

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Good all around trade for both teams. They say the winner of a trade is the one who gets the best player and Eovaldi is just that and German is a very solid prospect added to the farm. Also having Jones is clutch by Cashman in case Tex lands on the DL again. Always liked Phelps but at 28 yrs old he has pretty much shown what he is, a solid #4 or #5 starter but Eovaldi is that but with much more upside, lets sit back and see if Rothschild can work more of his magic (man that guy Larry R reminds me of someone) :confused:

Physically, not in baseball smarts as Rothschild is among the best and brightest.

This trade also (for the time being anyways) opens the door for Rob Refsnyder to win the 2b job out of camp. Time will tell if he is ready or not to make the jump but as of now he at least has a shot, along with Jose Pirela. About time some youth gets injected into the Yanks and Cashman has done so, so far this offseason. Something tells me Cash is not done just yet. So far the Yanks are better than last year. From all accounts it looks like they are not going after Max S so I would love 1 more year of Kuroda but have a feeling he is staying "home" to finish his career in Japan. If that is so, I can see Shields or maybe a trade for Zimmerman or Hamels but will have to wait and see.

I doubt KC or Washington will trade Shields or Zimmerman. Hamels is up for trade, but the Phillies may want more than teams are willing to give for him being he will be a free agent.

Good Stuff in the AL East this offseason. The Jays and Yankees got better so far, The O's and Rays about the same so far, and the hosers modest yet highly overpaid additions should help them be slightly better but really, could they be any worse than 2014 :noidea:

As it stands now i see it as:

1. Jays (even tho it never works out)

2/3. Yanks/Orioles fighting for the wild card

4/5. Rays/hosers fighting to stay out of the dumpster

Is it February 20th yet? :smile:

I glanced at some post quoting some broke bookie predicted the Red Sox odds of winning WS for 2015 was second lowest???? This bookie is probably homeless because he predicted that the Red Sox would repeat WS. But as you know, 2013 was a FLUKE, and the Red Hoisers finished in dead last in the AL East. My prediction for 2015 at the moment:

1. Toronto
2. Baltimore
3. NY Yankees
4. Tampa Bay
5. Boston
 

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Good all around trade for both teams. They say the winner of a trade is the one who gets the best player and Eovaldi is just that and German is a very solid prospect added to the farm.
Got to hand it to the Yanks this time. They got a young pitcher who led the National League last year...in hits allowed. A whopping 223 in only 199 innings. Hoo boy. Wait'll Papi gets a-hold of him. And all they gave up was their best hitter, part of whose salary they'll continue to pay.
 
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